The Issue of Calvinism.
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Preacher4Truth
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Sure it is. That is your teaching on foreknowledge. You teach God saw what you would do, so he rewarded you with salvation.
Though, If I may add to Brother @Preacher4Truth 's statement, If that is not what you believe, perhaps you could actually state your belief, and the Scriptures from whence you attained it?
Preacher4Truth
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Since @CoreIssue is denying what he teaches, and denies what I've stated about it as true, so, here he is teaching it:
You have God predestining you because of what YOU DID.
Any more fibs from you?
You have God predestining you because of what YOU DID.
Any more fibs from you?
I did what the Bible says is needed:
Rom 10:9, That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10, For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11, For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12, For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
The invitation is being given...Jesus is knocking on the door of your heart...the question is, will you receive Him by confessing Him as your Lord and Saviour?
And the answer is a sad no. The condemnation is that men love darkness rather than light, because our deeds are evil. You are correct; the general call [ie. preaching and reading the Word of God] is readily available (especially in the US), but that is not enough to change a man's heart. Only God can change a man's heart, via the Special, Irresistible Call of the Holy Spirit. It is only after the Spirit changes our hearts that we can respond to this call.
This is not what Rev 3:20 depicts. It's about the church leaving Jesus outside while they carry on as many do today.
The fact that you say no does not preclude that others will say no...and the fact that they will say yes is an indictment on those who would blame God (through the teachings of Calvinism) for their choice to reject Jesus.
Since this has not yet been mentioned in this thread, I will state what I believe about this.
The Father drawing a man to Christ, and the Father giving a man to Christ, are two different things.
When the Father draws a man to Christ, he is enabled to make an unhindered decision either for or against Christ.
If or when a man makes a decision for Christ, it is at that point that the Father gives that man to Christ.
So being drawn to Christ is not regeneration. The person being drawn does not have access to grace if he has not faith.
The moment he places his faith in Jesus and what was done for us on the Cross, he gains access to grace. And regeneration is the result of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:4-7).
Therefore faith comes before regeneration, as Romans 5:1-2 clearly shows us. We have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand. Therefore faith comes before we have access to grace; faith is the catalyst for our entering into grace.
The invitation is being given to you therefore, since you claim to be in the church.
Also, would you prevent an unbeliever from receiving Christ according to John 1:12 because of your misinterpretation of this verse? Jesus may indeed be knocking on the heart's door of an unbeliever; and you would tell the unbeliever, "He isn't really knocking unless you are already saved" (conclusion: there is no need to open the door). Shame on you!
No one has the capability to accept Christ because all men hate Him naturally.
Job 14:4
Jeremiah 13:23
Matthew 7:16-18
Matthew 12:33
John 6:44
Romans 11:35-36
1 Corinthians 2:14
1 Corinthians 4:7
2 Corinthians 3:5
If the Calvinist are right about God, many on this forum hate God.
So are you saying that you yourself hate Christ? Surely you are included in the statement "all men".
I did indeed hate God. Before He opened my eyes and changed my heart to see Him for who he is, yes
John 8:44
Ephesians 2:1-2
2 Timothy 2:25-26
1 John 3:10
1 John 5:19
John 8:34
Titus 3:3
Preacher4Truth
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It's apparent that in all probability you need brought to repentance.
Name calling, libel, false assertions, false accusations, division, discord, callowness, and using God's holy word out of context are fruits of your lifestyle as seen on here.
I hope to see you brought to a "change of mind."
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