CoreIssue
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It's spiritual and happening now. But only the born again can see it.
Not biblical. It is more than spiritual.
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It's spiritual and happening now. But only the born again can see it.
Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:Not biblical. It is more than spiritual.
It's spiritual and happening now. But only the born again can see it.
Things continue now with Satan loosed and attacking the Church until the end of the world. Then the resurrection (which is the restoration of Israel), rapture, and eternal kingdom in the new heavens and earth forever,At that time he said it was not of this earth but in heaven.
But even then you had flesh in heaven. For living beings and Enoch and Elijah.
Christ will rule from the earthly Jerusalem with an iron scepter 1000 years.
Very physical new Jerusalem will descend upon the new earth for eternity.
Things continue now with Satan loosed and attacking the Church until the end of the world. Then the resurrection (which is the restoration of Israel), rapture, and eternal kingdom in the new heavens and earth forever,
You are superimposing a Pharisaic understanding of the kingdom onto the bible. And you end up with false prophecy.So many misstatements.
There are not new heavens. There is one.
New Jerusalem is on the earth, not in heaven, for eternity and God lives in it with us.
The end of the earth does not occur for 1000 years after the rapture. During which time Satan is chained in the pit.
There are two resurrections. The one at the end of the world is for the damned, not the saints.
You are superimposing a Pharisaic understanding of the kingdom onto the bible. And you end up with false prophecy.
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (2 Peter 3:10–13)So the Bible doesn't say new heaven and new earth? Does not say the new Jerusalem will descend upon the new earth and we lived together with God for eternity in it?
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (2 Peter 3:10–13)
When Christ abolished circumcision, physical Jews and Physical Israel ceased to exist when that generation the apostles preached to died off. Judaism is a religion, not a race. And circumcision made one a physical member.
So many misstatements.
There are not new heavens. There is one.
New Jerusalem is on the earth, not in heaven, for eternity and God lives in it with us.
The end of the earth does not occur for 1000 years after the rapture. During which time Satan is chained in the pit.
There are two resurrections. The one at the end of the world is for the damned, not the saints.
1) The Lord Jesus did NOT abolish circumcision (recall that Paul circumcised Timothy himself, well after the Resurrection). Physical Jews still live on the earth today--they are the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel. 2) I never said that the children of Jacob are a race. Race is a false construct anyway. All humans are members of the human race. Saying anything more than that is what has led to genocide and "racism". All humans are cross-fertile which makes them members of the same species. There are some variations but the "variations" between "races" involve no more genes than the variations within "races". There is a more profound difference between males and females (the genetic differences involve every cell of the body) than there is between two males of different "races". What you have implied is not only antisemitic but racist as well.
The OT does not say that, the Jewish bible the Talmud says it along with other nasty things about Jesus and Christians. Google it,you won't believe it.
Scientifically, mankind is one species that contains five races and numerous sub races.
Jews are sub race semitic of the Caucasoid race.
I am Caucasoid and mongoloid. Celtic and American Indian.
But to me I'm a very conservative literal Bible only American Vet.
My family has a very long history in the US and were first in settlers to Kentucky.
What does that mean today? Nothing except I can never be said to come from a family of slaveowners.
The believe gentiles are nothing more than cattle. And that Jesus is boiling in hell in excrement. Soncino Talmud.
That is correct. And the Lord Jesus Christ gave the Tanakh His divine approval by showing His apostles that He had been revealed in (1) Torah (the Law of Moses) -- 5 books; (2) Neviim (the Prophets) -- 8 books; and (3) Ketuvim (the Writings or the Psalms) -- 11 books (with Psalms as the first one).The Hebrew Scriptures are called the Tanakh.
The proof is in his describing the kingdom as now present, and spiritual numerous times. He never mentions the Pharisees physical kingdom idea as being true, only false.
That is correct. And the Lord Jesus Christ gave the Tanakh His divine approval by showing His apostles that He had been revealed in (1) Torah (the Law of Moses) -- 5 books; (2) Neviim (the Prophets) -- 8 books; and (3) Ketuvim (the Writings or the Psalms) -- 11 books (with Psalms as the first one).
LUKE 24
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in [1] the law of Moses, and in [2] the prophets, and in [3] the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,[THE TANAKH]
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
He taught a spiritual kingdom only. And the Pharisees killed him for that and other teachings.Jesus NEVER said that the physical Kingdom would not one day be a reality. He said, at His first advent, that His Kingdom was, at that time, a spiritual reality. Just as the Temple was a real physical object, so there is a spiritual one in heaven (see Revelation 14:17)