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But you can't use my standard because you have no proof. Hypocrisy.

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Not at all. I don't have to agree with your standard to point out where your actions differ from the standard that you say you follow.
 

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I don't need to take it to the moderators. Take your question to the right arena and I will discuss it.

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So a Christian apologetic forum is not the right place to discuss why you believe the bible is true? Are you 15 or something? Because it is clear that I am allowed to post here it actually says I am in the forum. You need to move on.
 

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Not at all. I don't have to agree with your standard to point out where your actions differ from the standard that you say you follow.

Again, you haven't proved my actions differ from my standard. Go back and reread.

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So a Christian apologetic forum is not the right place to discuss why you believe the bible is true? Are you 15 or something? Because it is clear that I am allowed to post here it actually says I am in the forum. You need to move on.

You're not a Christian. You have no interest in discussing Christian apologetic's. For example the topic we are in now. You don't care about Calvinism. You threw your hat in the ring for the purpose of bashing Christianity, the Bible, and Jesus Christ, and God, and the faith of the believer.

Other believers can come here and learn methods of Christian apologetics and how to answer various questions concerning doctrines or oppositions to the Christian faith, in a safe environment. Where they don't have to worry about people like you who come to mock their faith and their God.

You have three sections you can post in, as a non-believer. They are called the nonchristian forums. That's you. So, post your subject matter there and I will discuss it with you.

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Again, you haven't proved my actions differ from my standard. Go back and reread.

Stranger

This is what you posted in response to my post:

Oh, I see there is more of that coming. But, your not 'one another'. Your not my brother. I don't hate my brother, but you are another story. I am doing unto others as I would have you do to me if I were doing what you're doing. So, you admit you are an enemy of mine. You are not just my enemy, you are an enemy of God. I say what I say in love...just not a love toward you.

It does not address this verse I posted as well:

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Luke 6:35

This verse is explicitly telling followers to love their enemies, not fellow Christians (look up the Greek word). You called me your enemy, you also said you have no love for me. So it seems to me you are not following your own standard for behavior.
 

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You're not a Christian. You have no interest in discussing Christian apologetic's. For example the topic we are in now. You don't care about Calvinism. You threw your hat in the ring for the purpose of bashing Christianity, the Bible, and Jesus Christ, and God, and the faith of the believer.

Other believers can come here and learn methods of Christian apologetics and how to answer various questions concerning doctrines or oppositions to the Christian faith, in a safe environment. Where they don't have to worry about people like you who come to mock their faith and their God.

You have three sections you can post in, as a non-believer. They are called the nonchristian forums. That's you. So, post your subject matter there and I will discuss it with you.

Stranger

Here are the forums:

Welcome to Christianity Board
Community Fellowship Forums (Christians Only)
Christian Forums (Christians Only)
Christian Formation and Apologetics
Non Christian Forums

I do not have rights to post in the forums that have (Christians Only). I do have rights given by the administrators to post in the forums that do not have this in their description. It is clear by any sensible person that if a non believer was not allowed to post in the Christian Formation and Apologetics forum that it would also say (Christians Only) and the administrators would not have given me rights to do so. You inability to comprehend this is staggering. I think its actually pride and not your reasoning ability.
 

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This is what you posted in response to my post:



It does not address this verse I posted as well:



This verse is explicitly telling followers to love their enemies, not fellow Christians (look up the Greek word). You called me your enemy, you also said you have no love for me. So it seems to me you are not following your own standard for behavior.

Follow along. You posted your questions in post #(2180).

I answered in post #(2183). I also answered again in post #(2216) Go back and read the verse you are trying to use, and then read my answers.

You showed you understood that I had answered in your reply in post #(2217).

You don't like the answer. Nothing I can do about that. But I did answer.

Stranger
 
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Here are the forums:

Welcome to Christianity Board
Community Fellowship Forums (Christians Only)
Christian Forums (Christians Only)
Christian Formation and Apologetics
Non Christian Forums

I do not have rights to post in the forums that have (Christians Only). I do have rights given by the administrators to post in the forums that do not have this in their description. It is clear by any sensible person that if a non believer was not allowed to post in the Christian Formation and Apologetics forum that it would also say (Christians Only) and the administrators would not have given me rights to do so. You inability to comprehend this is staggering. I think its actually pride and not your reasoning ability.

You don't have a right as a non-believer to post in a Christian area. And it is labled 'Christian'. In the same category of 'Christian Formations and Christian Apologetics' is the Topic Heading, "Christian Newbies". You have no right to post or answer anything there either. Your opinions are worthless to believers as you only attempt to cast doubt on our faith and God.

It has nothing to do with pride or reasoning ability. It has to do with recognizing what you are and your intent.

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Your right, this is what you wrote:

Your use of the Sermon on the Mount doesn't work. This is not the law for the Christian. This is the law for the Kingdom age when Christ sets up the kingdom. Christ will be present here at that time. We are not under the law of the Sermon on the Mount. That is a future day. Just like we are not under the law of Moses. That is in the past.

I never said it was the law. But Jesus is clearly talking to his disciples in this passage. Why do you think it is for a future kingdom?
 

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You don't have a right as a non-believer to post in a Christian area. And it is labled 'Christian'. In the same category of 'Christian Formations and Christian Apologetics' is the Topic Heading, "Christian Newbies". You have no right to post or answer anything there either. Your opinions are worthless to believers as you only attempt to cast doubt on our faith and God.

It has nothing to do with pride or reasoning ability. It has to do with recognizing what you are and your intent.

Stranger
I agree but this is not a christian area as defined by the forum admins as I have pointed out many times. You never addressed my points I made. That doesn't matter, you don't get to make up the rules on this site. Don't respond to me if you like but you are simply wrong.
 

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Your right, this is what you wrote:



I never said it was the law. But Jesus is clearly talking to his disciples in this passage. Why do you think it is for a future kingdom?

This is not the Church. The Church is yet future. The Sermon on the Mount is the rule and Law of the future Kingdom. See. (Matt. 3:2) (Matt. 4:17), (Matt. 5:3), (Matt. 6:10) etc. etc.

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I agree but this is not a christian area as defined by the forum admins as I have pointed out many times. You never addressed my points I made. That doesn't matter, you don't get to make up the rules on this site. Don't respond to me if you like but you are simply wrong.

You see the area designated non-christians don't you. What do you suppose that means?

You don't want to follow the rules. What is so hard about staying in your area and asking your questions?

Oh, no. You're not going to be that lucky. I will respond to you.

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You see the area designated non-christians don't you. What do you suppose that means?

You don't want to follow the rules. What is so hard about staying in your area and asking your questions?

Oh, no. You're not going to be that lucky. I will respond to you.

Stranger
What do you think "Christians Only" means? Your wrong, Do you make the rules on this site?
 

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This is not the Church. The Church is yet future. The Sermon on the Mount is the rule and Law of the future Kingdom. See. (Matt. 3:2) (Matt. 4:17), (Matt. 5:3), (Matt. 6:10) etc. etc.

Stranger
Do you want to explain how these verses mean that Jesus in chapter 6 is talking about a future kingdom?
 

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So you speak up when Stranger says something you like. Do you then agree with the insults and hatred he displays in contradiction to what Jesus said his disciples should do?
My likes on this forum mean I appreciate what the person said... sometimes even when I really disagree. Stranger is an unusual fellow, but were not all of the closest disciples of Jesus who walked with him in the flesh unusual or even peculiar?

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2:9

As @Stranger will probably remember I have spoken [argued?] with him previously where we disagreed, him and I, but this does not mean we must disagree or argue [debate?] every point as it that would solve the world's problem or even ours. If one or both of us needs to change on any point of disagreement who is it that make it as it should be?

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:" Ecc 3:1

"...a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;" Ecc 3:7

Do you understand the meaning of the following verses?

"I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
I Cor 3:6-8

By your words do you hope to change something in someone here... in me, or in @Stranger , or in someone else who confesses themselves to be a follower of Jesus?
 

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What do you think "Christians Only" means? Your wrong, Do you make the rules on this site?

It means Christians only. Now, what do you think the area designated non-christian means? And what does an area designated Christian mean?

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Do you want to explain how these verses mean that Jesus in chapter 6 is talking about a future kingdom?

No, I am not interested in teaching you the Bible here. You have no interest in learning the Bible. You have no interest in God or Jesus Christ. You like your 'pat' verses that you can use on Christians to make them doubt what they believe. But, see. That is what happens when you don't know what you are talking about. You can go to the internet and get a long list of verses from atheists and other infidels that supposedly trip up believers. Stupid.

Get down to your correct section, and ask concerning what is the Kingdom. I'm sure you will get plenty of explanation. Some will probably give it to you here. But I won't.

So, poor you. Your not being loved by the Christian. Oh my. The Christian must feel so guilty cause he don't love you. Please. Come up with something new.

Stranger
 
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It means Christians only. Now, what do you think the area designated non-christian means? And what does an area designated Christian mean?

Stranger
There are only two areas designated Christian Only, I do not post there.
 

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No, I am not interested in teaching you the Bible here. You have no interest in learning the Bible. You have no interest in God or Jesus Christ. You like your 'pat' verses that you can use on Christians to make them doubt what they believe. But, see. That is what happens when you don't know what you are talking about. You can go to the internet and get a long list of verses from atheists and other infidels that supposedly trip up believers. Stupid.
Then why respond if you are not willing to explain what you mean?

So, poor you. Your not being loved by the Christian. Oh my. The Christian must feel so guilty cause he don't love you. Please. Come up with something new.
This is childish and not my point at all. I don't care if you love me, I am pointing out your hypocrisy and you refuse to address it as you have just said. So I guess we are done. Thanks for the discussion.
 

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So you two.. You're like men without a cross, like... You're like Hawkeye! Ya! From the Last Mohicans? because he has not been accepted into the white Christian (English and/or French) communities of North America, Bumppo considers himself between European and native society. Thus, as a “man without a cross", or he's sort of mixed without an English or French name. Do you belong to any sort of tribe, then?