3d/3n is NOT an idiom!

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FHII

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Well care to explain? I don't know what your thoughts are on this. Its abundantly clear to me that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday. You want to celebrate it otherwise, fine.
 

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Well care to explain? I don't know what your thoughts are on this. Its abundantly clear to me that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday. You want to celebrate it otherwise, fine.

No, i agree with you on this. I just think it is clear......and was laughing at the attempts to muddy the point
 
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But the problem is that you still are failing to understand how idioms work. Not according to me, but according to jews. "After two days" is an idiom. "3 daya and 3 nights" is not.

But the problem is that you still are failing to understand that I believe EXACTLY according to YOU, that '~"After two days" is an idiom. "3 daya and 3 nights" is not~'. PLEASE!
 
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Jesus was speaking of when he would betrayed; not when he died.

If you insist Jesus ONLY '~was speaking of when he would betrayed~' and NOT ALSO of '~when he died~', you would insist wrongly, because He not ONLY '~was speaking of when he would betrayed~' but ALSO of when He would die, viz., when having been crucified to death. The Text even uses the Neuter Article for both betrayal and "the" or "his to be crucified (to death)".
Jesus was betrayed and crucified and died on the same day; there's no possibility it was over two days, as you put it, '~even if they happened on the same day~'.

I can see that you must be one of those who say the Trial lasted another day after Jesus was betrayed. But there is no reason nor any TEXT for that.
Just follow what IS WRITTEN. If you see anything suggesting or requiring another day on which the trial took place, be so kind as to furnish me with it?
 

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No, i agree with you on this. I just think it is clear......and was laughing at the attempts to muddy the point
"...when Josiah had prepared the temple ... this passover was kept ... I have war against Thee This Day... Forbear thee from meddling with God who is with Jesus King of the Jews, that He destroy thee not." 2Chronicles 35:21 John 19:21

It was '15 Nissan' "already" now, "And the Jews therefore, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath, for That Day was great-day-of-sabbath-of (passover), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken and their bodies be taken away."

"Have Me away, for I AM sore wounded." 2Chronicles 35:23 John 19:31

"Forbear thee from meddling with God who is with Jesus King of the Jews, that He destroy thee not", for HE WAS BOTH BETRAYED AND CRUCIFIED TO DEATH ON THE SELFSAME DAY OF PASSOVER THE 14TH day of the First Month.
 

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No, i agree with you on this. I just think it is clear......and was laughing at the attempts to muddy the point

Truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it yet in the end, there it is! Winston Churchill, Truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it yet in the end, there it is!
 

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For the Hebrews a day was from sunset to sunset.

Any portion of a day counted as a day. Any portion of the night counted as a night.
 

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For the Hebrews a day was from sunset to sunset.

Any portion of a day counted as a day. Any portion of the night counted as a night.

Again, "a day" is an idiom or can be. A day and a night is not an idiom. That is what this Rabbi is saying.

Your own statement is contradictory. If "any portion of a day counted as a day", then for the Hebrews a day was not "from sunset to sunset".

From sunset to sunset is 24 hours.
 

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Again, "a day" is an idiom or can be. A day and a night is not an idiom. That is what this Rabbi is saying.

Your own statement is contradictory. If "any portion of a day counted as a day", then for the Hebrews a day was not "from sunset to sunset".

From sunset to sunset is 24 hours.

It is always 24 hours. Days constantly changing length, even if only by a few seconds of time.

If Christ was in the grave for exactly 3-24 hour days that he could not resurrect warming on the third day. It would have been in late afternoon.
 

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CoreIssue,
re: "For the Hebrews a day was from sunset to sunset. Any portion of a day counted as a day. Any portion of the night counted as a night."

But when was no part of a night counted as a night?