What Did Paul Mean By These Words?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

APAK

Well-Known Member
Feb 4, 2018
9,105
9,840
113
Florida
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Let me say first off that this is not a set up question where I'm already fully decided on the answer and just want to know what everyone else's opinion is. I am definitely leaning in a certain direction, but the following is an honest inquiry for input.

In Galatians 4:3, Colossians 2:8, and Colossians 2:20, Paul used the expression τῶν στοιχείων τοῦ κόσμου, which as I will show in a second translates into "the principles of the world." What principles was he talking about by this repeated phrase, and why did he refer to them as such?

For starters, about the translation, he uses the phrase in combination with the phrase "the traditions of man" and the word "philosophies" in Colossians 2:8. The reading is "βλέπετε μή τις ὑμᾶς ἔσται ὁ συλαγωγῶν διὰ τῆς φιλοσοφίας καὶ κενῆς ἀπάτης, κατὰ τὴν παράδοσιν τῶν ἀνθρώπων, κατὰ τὰ στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου καὶ οὐ κατὰ Χριστόν" which translates as, "Take heed that there not be anyone making a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the traditions of man, according to the principles of the world, and not according to Christ." So there is a clear common element to these phrases; all refer in general to false, naturalistic (i.e. humanistic) teachings.

Then he uses just the word "principles" (στοιχεῖα) as a stand alone in Galatians 4:9, "how do you turn again to the weak and beggarly principles to which you again desire to serve anew?," referring back to the full phrase τὰ στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου in Galatians 4:3.

When you take all these things into consideration, the word alone must mean "principles" and the entire phrase means "principles of the world."

So the question again becomes: What principles specifically was he talking about by the use of this repeated phrase, and why did he refer to them as such?

Blessings in Christ. Any and all responses are appreciated.

I believe you might have your answer to you thread already based on the posts I’ve read.

Paul was concerned that the Galatians and Colossians were turning back to the principles or rudiments of the world as their faith or religion, or at least mixing it with their new faith. They were diluting their new founded faith in Christ whilst still clinging on to the ancient religions of observing pagan religious dates, times and seasons. He wanted then to rid themselves of them completely.

These elementary or fundamental religions today can still be seen in some American Indians. Their observance of the stars, moon, clouds, air, temperature, wind, mist, earthquakes and nearly anything that can be observed in nature. All things observable has a religious superstition, connotation, meaning and significance to life.

Today IMO, many Christians act as the teetering Galatians and Colossians. Yes, they still observe the pagan festivals surrounding Christmas, Easter, Blood moons, comets, and even 'Jewish' holidays, so-called Christian religious events, many Catholic types especially, and more. If one is to be truly a Christian one must divest oneself from all this worldly baggage that God surely condemns, that will stifle their growth.

Bless you,

APAK
 

BARNEY BRIGHT

Well-Known Member
Oct 29, 2017
4,032
1,119
113
67
Thomaston Georgia
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
What are the “elementary things of the world” mentioned at Galatians 4:3 and Colossians 2:8, 20?

After showing that a child is like a slave because of being under the stewardship of others until he is of age, the apostle Paul, in his letter to the Galatians, writes: “Likewise we also, when we were babes, continued enslaved by the elementary things belonging to the world.” (Gal. 4:1-3) He then proceeds to show that God’s Son came at the “full limit of the time” and released those Jews becoming his disciples from being under the Law in order that they might receive the “adoption as sons.” (Gal. 4:3-7) Similarly, in his letter to the Colossians, Paul warned the Christians at Colossae against being carried off “through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ; because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.” They should have “died together with Christ toward the elementary things of the world.” —Col. 2:8, 9, 20.

Being set in contrast with what such Christians now enjoyed, the “elementary things of the world” evidently are the fundamental or primary principles followed by those who are not true Christians, persons who are a part of the world alienated from God. An American Translation renders the Greek expression for “elementary things of the world” as “material ways of looking at things.” Of course, the way a person views things is determined by the principles that he follows.

The text we are considering, Colossians 2:8, indicates that these primary principles or “elementary things” include the philosophies and deceptive teachings based on human standards, concepts, reasonings and myths, things in which the Greeks and other non-Jewish peoples reveled. Additionally, as evident from Colossians 2:16-18 and Galatians 4:4–5:4, the “elementary things” embraced the non-Biblical Jewish teachings calling for asceticism and “worship of the angels” as well as the teaching that Christians must observe the Mosaic law in order to gain salvation.

But was not the Mosaic law of divine origin? Certainly. How, then, could its observance be referred to as one’s being enslaved to the “elementary things of the world”?

We must remember that the Law had been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. He was the “reality” to which the Law’s ‘shadows,’ including the temple and the sacrifices there carried on, pointed. The Law had therefore served its purpose and so was no longer the standard for judgment. (Col. 2:13-17) Not only this, but these Christians to whom the apostle Paul wrote were called to heavenly, spirit life. The Law was for humans, was composed of “legal requirements pertaining to the flesh,” even its tabernacle (and later temple) could be called “worldly” (Heb. 9:1, 10, Kingdom Interlinear Translation; “mundane,” Moffatt) in the sense that it was part of the human sphere, something built and used in the world of mankind, not something heavenly or spiritual. But now Christians were called to the superior way of worship based on Christ Jesus, who had entered into heaven itself. (Heb. 9:11, 24) Of Jesus Christ, in a letter to the Colossians, the apostle said that “all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily” in him. (Col. 2:9) That being so, then Jesus Christ —not humans and their principles or teachings, nor even the now fulfilled Mosaic law— was to be recognized as God’s appointed standard for his servants, hence as the full means of measuring the truth with regard to any teaching or way of life.

As the apostle had counseled the Christians at Colossae, similarly he wrote those in Galatia not to be like children by voluntarily placing themselves under that which was likened to a ‘pedagogue’ or ‘tutor,’ namely, the Mosaic law. Their relationship with God was now like that of a grown son with his father. The Mosaic law had become “elementary,” as compared with the Christian teaching. So it would have been wrong for Christians to turn back to the “weak and beggarly elementary things” of the human sphere. They possessed the full truth.

Similarly, today people forming the world alienated from God live according to certain philosophies of life and customs that are out of harmony with God’s Word. But to them, this is the “practiced” way to life, a way typified by such expressions as: “The end justifies the means”; “It’s a ‘dog-eat-dog’ world where it’s ‘every man for himself’”; “All’s fair in love and war.” They lack the wisdom from above, spiritual insight. (Jas. 3:13-18) As Christians, we must exercise care that we do not slip into following worldly principles in conducting our family and business affairs and in dealing with others. A Christian does well to ask himself, Am I wholly guided by God’s Word and by the example and teachings of his Son in everything that I do, or am I letting myself be influenced by the popular sayings of this world?
 
B

Butterfly

Guest
Really like the way you have explained that Barney- on the same page as me, but with a lot more depth than my post earlier X
Rita
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hidden In Him
B

Butterfly

Guest
although I agree with what I posted, it's from Jehovah Witness watchtower magazine.
Ha ha - oh no I seem to agree with something they believe in !
You could have taken the praise for it being ' your wisdom and insight Barney '
I must admit that you have just made my day, I think that is just so funny that it's from the watchtower - sorry , my sense of humour.
You should have held that back, just to see if anyone else agreed - so who will view what you said in a different light now because it's from the watchtower - I still agree with what it says X
Rita
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hidden In Him

BARNEY BRIGHT

Well-Known Member
Oct 29, 2017
4,032
1,119
113
67
Thomaston Georgia
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Ha ha - oh no I seem to agree with something they believe in !
You could have taken the praise for it being ' your wisdom and insight Barney '
I must admit that you have just made my day, I think that is just so funny that it's from the watchtower - sorry , my sense of humour.
You should have held that back, just to see if anyone else agreed - so who will view what you said in a different light now because it's from the watchtower - I still agree with what it says X
Rita

Wouldn't that be significant. Don't that kind of tell you if they do that I mean how unreasonable they would be to not agree just because it comes from the watchtower.
 
B

Butterfly

Guest
Well let's see -you know I actual feel challenged to wonder how I would have reactedhad I known, which is not good - but perhaps something to ponder !
So I am glad you didn't say at first because it's taught me a lesson xx
Ritac
 
  • Like
Reactions: bbyrd009

charity

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2017
3,234
3,192
113
75
UK
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Fair enough. What specific teachings?
Hello @ScottA,

The context of each verse under consideration reveal what those teachings are, no one has to guess at them. Each reference has within it's context reference to the law (G4747) Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20 and Hebrews 5:12, which refer to elements of knowledge: (2 Peter 3:10 & 12 relating to natural elements).

- 'elements of the world'
- 'weak and beggarly elements'
- 'rudiments of the world'
- 'principles of the oracles of God'


In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: ScottA

charity

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2017
3,234
3,192
113
75
UK
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
I believe you might have your answer to you thread already based on the posts I’ve read.

Paul was concerned that the Galatians and Colossians were turning back to the principles or rudiments of the world as their faith or religion, or at least mixing it with their new faith. They were diluting their new founded faith in Christ whilst still clinging on to the ancient religions of observing pagan religious dates, times and seasons. He wanted then to rid themselves of them completely.

These elementary or fundamental religions today can still be seen in some American Indians. Their observance of the stars, moon, clouds, air, temperature, wind, mist, earthquakes and nearly anything that can be observed in nature. All things observable has a religious superstition, connotation, meaning and significance to life.

Today IMO, many Christians act as the teetering Galatians and Colossians. Yes, they still observe the pagan festivals surrounding Christmas, Easter, Blood moons, comets, and even 'Jewish' holidays, so-called Christian religious events, many Catholic types especially, and more. If one is to be truly a Christian one must divest oneself from all this worldly baggage that God surely condemns, that will stifle their growth.

Bless you,

APAK
[Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20; Hebrews 5:12]
- 'elements of the world'
- 'weak and beggarly elements'
- 'rudiments of the world'
- 'principles of the oracles of God'

Hello @APAK,

You make a very good point here, with which I can agree: but in regard to the verses in question, the context uses these terms in relation to the law.

The Hebrew believers were wavering on the brink of going back to Judaism, the Galatians were being confused by some concerning the need to keep the law. Paul's desire for the Colossians was that 'their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God and of the Father, and of Christ, In Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Then follows the warning to them concerning anything that would destroy that 'comfort' and 'full assurance of understanding'. That man should beguile them with enticing words, 'through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.' They were complete in Christ, for all the fullness of God dwells in Him: therefore to seek to add anything to that 'completeness' in any form (including the 'handwriting of ordinances') as listed in the verses which follow in Colossians 2, would mean that they would not be 'holding the Head' (Col.2:19), which is Christ. They had died with Christ and were alive unto God, and therefore citizens of a realm in which all of these 'other' things had no place.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Last edited:

APAK

Well-Known Member
Feb 4, 2018
9,105
9,840
113
Florida
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
[Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20; Hebrews 5:12]
- 'elements of the world'
- 'weak and beggarly elements'
- 'rudiments of the world'
- 'principles of the oracles of God'

Hello @APAK,

You make a very good point here, with which I can agree: but in regard to the verses in question, the context uses these terms in relation to the law.

The Hebrew believers were wavering on the brink of going back to Judaism, the Galatians were being confused by some concerning the need to keep the law. Paul's desire for the Colossians was that 'their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God and of the Father, and of Christ, In Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Then follows the warning to them concerning anything that would destroy that 'comfort' and 'full assurance of understanding'. That man should beguile them with enticing words, 'through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.' They were complete in Christ, for all the fullness of God dwells in Him: therefore to seek to add anything to that 'completeness' in any form (including the 'handwriting of ordinances') as listed in the verses which follow in Colossians 2, would mean that they would not be 'holding the Head' (Col.2:19), which is Christ. They had died with Christ and were alive unto God, and therefore citizens of a realm in which all of these 'other' things had no place.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
Charity: thank you for your response. Yes, the e law was the essential object and focus of Paul in these verses indeed. Although, I wanted to extend that further to concepts other than the law during that time and before, and more importantly to today; with our neo-rudiments or elemental observances. BL: we all had better identify and examine what is useful for learning and keeping beyond our faith and our growth in the Kingdom and was are the detractors that pin us to the superstitions and the teachings of the world.

Bless you,

APAK
 
  • Like
Reactions: charity

Hidden In Him

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2018
10,600
10,883
113
59
Lafayette, LA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I believe you might have your answer to you thread already based on the posts I’ve read.

Paul was concerned that the Galatians and Colossians were turning back to the principles or rudiments of the world as their faith or religion, or at least mixing it with their new faith. They were diluting their new founded faith in Christ whilst still clinging on to the ancient religions of observing pagan religious dates, times and seasons. He wanted then to rid themselves of them completely.

These elementary or fundamental religions today can still be seen in some American Indians. Their observance of the stars, moon, clouds, air, temperature, wind, mist, earthquakes and nearly anything that can be observed in nature. All things observable has a religious superstition, connotation, meaning and significance to life.

Today IMO, many Christians act as the teetering Galatians and Colossians. Yes, they still observe the pagan festivals surrounding Christmas, Easter, Blood moons, comets, and even 'Jewish' holidays, so-called Christian religious events, many Catholic types especially, and more. If one is to be truly a Christian one must divest oneself from all this worldly baggage that God surely condemns, that will stifle their growth.

Bless you,

APAK

Hey APAK. Thanks for the reply. I see your answer as a good adoption of the phrase "the principles of the world" in a new sense, but I would be looking for proof from the letters themselves that Paul was referring to pagan principles before I could accept this as the proper interpretation of what he was actually referring to.

I think you may be correct that I am already fairly decided on my answer. I am finding most of the responses I'm getting (both here and at CF) are focused less on examining the content of the NT letters and more on similar applications of what the term might mean today. But it's no easy nut to crack, so I understand.

Blessings, my friend, and thanks again for the response.
 
  • Like
Reactions: APAK

Hidden In Him

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2018
10,600
10,883
113
59
Lafayette, LA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
After showing that a child is like a slave because of being under the stewardship of others until he is of age, the apostle Paul, in his letter to the Galatians, writes: “Likewise we also, when we were babes, continued enslaved by the elementary things belonging to the world.” (Gal. 4:1-3) He then proceeds to show that God’s Son came at the “full limit of the time” and released those Jews becoming his disciples from being under the Law in order that they might receive the “adoption as sons.” (Gal. 4:3-7) Similarly, in his letter to the Colossians, Paul warned the Christians at Colossae against being carried off “through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ; because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.” They should have “died together with Christ toward the elementary things of the world.” —Col. 2:8, 9, 20.

Being set in contrast with what such Christians now enjoyed, the “elementary things of the world” evidently are the fundamental or primary principles followed by those who are not true Christians, persons who are a part of the world alienated from God. An American Translation renders the Greek expression for “elementary things of the world” as “material ways of looking at things.” Of course, the way a person views things is determined by the principles that he follows.

The text we are considering, Colossians 2:8, indicates that these primary principles or “elementary things” include the philosophies and deceptive teachings based on human standards, concepts, reasonings and myths, things in which the Greeks and other non-Jewish peoples reveled. Additionally, as evident from Colossians 2:16-18 and Galatians 4:4–5:4, the “elementary things” embraced the non-Biblical Jewish teachings calling for asceticism and “worship of the angels” as well as the teaching that Christians must observe the Mosaic law in order to gain salvation.

But was not the Mosaic law of divine origin? Certainly. How, then, could its observance be referred to as one’s being enslaved to the “elementary things of the world”?

We must remember that the Law had been fulfilled in Christ Jesus. He was the “reality” to which the Law’s ‘shadows,’ including the temple and the sacrifices there carried on, pointed. The Law had therefore served its purpose and so was no longer the standard for judgment. (Col. 2:13-17) Not only this, but these Christians to whom the apostle Paul wrote were called to heavenly, spirit life. The Law was for humans, was composed of “legal requirements pertaining to the flesh,” even its tabernacle (and later temple) could be called “worldly” (Heb. 9:1, 10, Kingdom Interlinear Translation; “mundane,” Moffatt) in the sense that it was part of the human sphere, something built and used in the world of mankind, not something heavenly or spiritual. But now Christians were called to the superior way of worship based on Christ Jesus, who had entered into heaven itself. (Heb. 9:11, 24) Of Jesus Christ, in a letter to the Colossians, the apostle said that “all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily” in him. (Col. 2:9) That being so, then Jesus Christ —not humans and their principles or teachings, nor even the now fulfilled Mosaic law— was to be recognized as God’s appointed standard for his servants, hence as the full means of measuring the truth with regard to any teaching or way of life.

As the apostle had counseled the Christians at Colossae, similarly he wrote those in Galatia not to be like children by voluntarily placing themselves under that which was likened to a ‘pedagogue’ or ‘tutor,’ namely, the Mosaic law. Their relationship with God was now like that of a grown son with his father. The Mosaic law had become “elementary,” as compared with the Christian teaching. So it would have been wrong for Christians to turn back to the “weak and beggarly elementary things” of the human sphere. They possessed the full truth

Wow, what an answer! Barney, this is by far IMO the best response I've gotten so far. The translation you used is exceptional, and makes more perfect sense of the term than any I've seen. I will likely be using "elementary principles of the world" from now on, as the word elementary captures not only the root sense of the original word but also conveys the theological "childishness" of the principles Paul was talking about.

I have a mild disagreement with you about the asceticism reference, but this whole post is incredibly well written. I plan on posting it on my parallel thread I created at CF with the people over there a little later on. It's very good. It actually ministered to me, which at this age is unfortunately a true rarity, LoL.

Blessings in Christ, and thanks again.
 

Hidden In Him

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2018
10,600
10,883
113
59
Lafayette, LA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
although I agree with what I posted, it's from Jehovah Witness watchtower magazine.

A ha Ha! Oh, my Lord! Well, just goes to show you never want to shut your ears to anyone completely. To be honest, I'd never really read any of your posts that caught my attention either, so I was a bit in shock with you as well, LoL. :D

But look, I couldn't care less where you got it. All I know is it's good.

And thanks for the heads up on where you got it, LoL.


Slide189.jpg


shocked-animal-funny-fb.jpg
 

bbyrd009

Groper
Nov 30, 2016
33,943
12,081
113
Ute City, COLO
www.facebook.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States Minor Outlying Islands
Charity: thank you for your response. Yes, the e law was the essential object and focus of Paul in these verses indeed. Although, I wanted to extend that further to concepts other than the law during that time and before, and more importantly to today; with our neo-rudiments or elemental observances. BL: we all had better identify and examine what is useful for learning and keeping beyond our faith and our growth in the Kingdom and was are the detractors that pin us to the superstitions and the teachings of the world.

Bless you,

APAK
I suggest that the beggarly elements involve seeking kings and popes to fight our battles, iow putting other ppl between us and God, which the OT can even be perceived as a record of the failure of
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2012
12,259
3,385
113
Mobile, Al.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
GINOLJC, to all.

Addressing the OP only, it was the ceremonial laws of the Jews which kept them in bondage. they was still in the flesh even after christ came and free them from the Law.

PICJAG.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hidden In Him

APAK

Well-Known Member
Feb 4, 2018
9,105
9,840
113
Florida
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I suggest that the beggarly elements involve seeking kings and popes to fight our battles, iow putting other ppl between us and God, which the OT can even be perceived as a record of the failure of
That is another angle I need to explore further....the idea of having other buffers and things, people and objects that separate us from God is a common thread here..
Thanks byrd...keep on turnin':D

Bless you,

APAK
 
  • Like
Reactions: bbyrd009

bbyrd009

Groper
Nov 30, 2016
33,943
12,081
113
Ute City, COLO
www.facebook.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States Minor Outlying Islands
That is another angle I need to explore further....the idea of having other buffers and things, people and objects that separate us from God is a common thread here..
Thanks byrd...keep on turnin':D

Bless you,

APAK
Abarim develops this--possibly to an extreme, I don't know--in the "Christ" thread, The Christ and Rome
although the "extreme" part is maybe a couple days away lol
 

farouk

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2009
30,790
19,232
113
North America
[Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20; Hebrews 5:12]
- 'elements of the world'
- 'weak and beggarly elements'
- 'rudiments of the world'
- 'principles of the oracles of God'

Hello @APAK,

You make a very good point here, with which I can agree: but in regard to the verses in question, the context uses these terms in relation to the law.

The Hebrew believers were wavering on the brink of going back to Judaism, the Galatians were being confused by some concerning the need to keep the law. Paul's desire for the Colossians was that 'their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God and of the Father, and of Christ, In Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Then follows the warning to them concerning anything that would destroy that 'comfort' and 'full assurance of understanding'. That man should beguile them with enticing words, 'through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.' They were complete in Christ, for all the fullness of God dwells in Him: therefore to seek to add anything to that 'completeness' in any form (including the 'handwriting of ordinances') as listed in the verses which follow in Colossians 2, would mean that they would not be 'holding the Head' (Col.2:19), which is Christ. They had died with Christ and were alive unto God, and therefore citizens of a realm in which all of these 'other' things had no place.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
Seeing clearly the New Testament doctrinal framework was so important for the early believers, especially as some of them were from a Jewish background of law-keeping and ritual.
 
  • Like
Reactions: charity

farouk

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2009
30,790
19,232
113
North America
[Galatians 4:3 & 9; Colossians 2:8 & 20; Hebrews 5:12]
- 'elements of the world'
- 'weak and beggarly elements'
- 'rudiments of the world'
- 'principles of the oracles of God'

Hello @APAK,

You make a very good point here, with which I can agree: but in regard to the verses in question, the context uses these terms in relation to the law.

The Hebrew believers were wavering on the brink of going back to Judaism, the Galatians were being confused by some concerning the need to keep the law. Paul's desire for the Colossians was that 'their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God and of the Father, and of Christ, In Whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Then follows the warning to them concerning anything that would destroy that 'comfort' and 'full assurance of understanding'. That man should beguile them with enticing words, 'through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.' They were complete in Christ, for all the fullness of God dwells in Him: therefore to seek to add anything to that 'completeness' in any form (including the 'handwriting of ordinances') as listed in the verses which follow in Colossians 2, would mean that they would not be 'holding the Head' (Col.2:19), which is Christ. They had died with Christ and were alive unto God, and therefore citizens of a realm in which all of these 'other' things had no place.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
PS: We are going through Galatians now in our local church; remarkable to see how the Galatians - many of them from a Jewish background - seemed instinctively ready to go back to law-keeping. Paul's warnings to them are very strong.
 
  • Like
Reactions: charity