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At the risk of being called anti semitic,which I don't really care

This temple they building over there,(Israel)you care if I ask to whom is it for?
 

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At the risk of being called anti semitic,which I don't really care

This temple they building over there,(Israel)you care if I ask to whom is it for?

The antichrist, the Jew's counterfeit Messiah. The Jews rejected the true Messiah, so God is going to give them a counterfeit that they might eat the fruit of their own ways. This is Jesus speaking to the hard-hearted Jews.

John 5
[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.[40] And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.[41] I receive not honour from men.[42] But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.[43] I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
 

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The antichrist, the Jew's counterfeit Messiah. The Jews rejected the true Messiah, so God is going to give them a counterfeit that they might eat the fruit of their own ways. This is Jesus speaking to the hard-hearted Jews.

John 5
[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.[40] And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.[41] I receive not honour from men.[42] But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.[43] I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Good that you know that; it gives proof of your having been 'sealed' with God's seal for the end of this world.
 

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At the risk of being called anti semitic,which I don't really care...This temple they building over there,(Israel)you care if I ask to whom is it for?
Sounds anti-Semitic, but who cares, eh?;)

Unbelieving Jews (especially Orthodox Jews) are expecting their *true* Messiah in the very near future. Therefore they are building the third temple in Jerusalem. What they do not understand in that their true Messiah -- Yeshua ha Mashiach -- is now in Heaven, and will have nothing to do with this temple.

However, it will suit the purposes of Satan and the Antichrist in order to establish their literal worship on earth for 3 1/2 years.
 
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Good that you know that; it gives proof of your having been 'sealed' with God's seal for the end of this world.
Being sealed has nothing to do with recognition of any end-time scenario above any other's interpretation. Being sealed is all about having character within...Christ's character.
 
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So everyone is agreed that any third temple/'structure' is merely a misapplied gesture to a false Christ...yet the only scripture offered in support of the building of any such structure states categorically that it is/will be the "temple of God". 2 Thess. 2:4 And the only reason for building such an edifice is, according to the minds of modern Christianity, to house the future antichrist. Yet therein lies the very contradiction that undermines the whole house of cards. Whatever temple Paul is referring to that the antichrist abides in, cannot be any future temple in Jerusalem for the very reason all agree to above...that God will have nothing to do with it thus cannot be "His" temple. So the temple Paul speaks of...God's...must be something, or somewhere else. It cannot be the sanctuary in heaven...no way can "that Wicked" ever abide there, thus the only alternative that makes a lick of sense is that the temple Paul is referring to can only be the church. In some way therefore the "wicked"...the mystery of iniquity...the "man of sin"...Antichrist, the son of perdition, finds his way onto the church where he receives the worship and adulation that he craves for and demands. Satan of course would never get away with such a brazen act in person, which is why he needs a proxy. A counterfeit Christ through which he is worshipped in that the antichrist's followers surrender themselves to Satanic man-made commandments.
 

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At the risk of being called anti semitic,which I don't really care

This temple they building over there,(Israel)you care if I ask to whom is it for?

Noone is "build-ING" a Temple, (over There).

Different sects of Jews have "debated" openly for nearly 60 years, and for nearly 40 years, "preparations" have been in effect.

DEBATE ABOUT;
"IF", a Temple should be built;
"WHERE" exactly a Temple should be built;
"WHAT" exactly should be the Role of the Temple;
"WHO" exactly should be allowed to enter "to worship";
"WHEN" exactly should a Temple be built;
"HOW" would a Temple be built without Muslim conflict;

Among other things that Pertain to "The Third Temple."...

PREPARATIONS FOR;
a Third Temple have been ONGOING:
Building Design;
Artifacts;
Appoint Priests;
Dress of the Priest;
Etc, etc.

... to whom is it for?

Same as always;
A House of Prayer Unto Thee LORD GOD.

Jews in Favor of ERRECTING a Third Temple; Have the same INTENT that the Purpose of a Temple is a HOLY HOUSE UNTO THEE LORD.

Glory to God,
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We'll see how this plays out. Paul says the broken off Jews will remain under God's wrath until the end of time;

“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” (1 Thessalonians 2:16)YLT


Jesus saying their house being left desolate;

“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.” (Matthew 23:38)

“And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24)

Telling us to preach the gospel to the whole world (gentiles) until the end of the world. Meaning Jerusalem will never recover. And today's Jews are gentiles trodding down Jerusalem to whom we are to preach.

“Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matthew 28:20)
 

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I don't think God will allow another temple of old be built.
He took that away from them about 2,000 years ago. It became an abomination.
It will be the New Testament church built in Israel to stay.

There is already a heathen temple there on that spot anyway where the old one stood.
 
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A lot of people attempt to do "GOD's work" by their own imaginations. It was true with Cain, and it's still true today. -- So whoever attempts to make "silver shekels", or "a third Temple", "corner stones", or etc., -- will NOT be accepted by GOD. HE is the one who calls those things which HE desires, and man's ill advised imaginations are of no regard to HIM.


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Please correct your assertion from "the third temple" to "a structure". -- We don't want false information to be disseminated!
Bobby Jo,

That may be "false information" to you but to Orthodox Jews it is 100% true. They want to build a third temple in Jerusalem, and it will be built in order to fulfil Bible prophecy. Plans are already under way. But the Antichrist will hijack this temple.
 
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Bobby Jo,

That may be "false information" to you but to Orthodox Jews it is 100% true. ...

I don't disagree. But the REAL question is, are "Orthodox Jews" in agreement with GOD's plans, -- including when HE sent HIS SON to earth?

Cain's ~bushel of wheat sacrifice~ was rejected, but Cain's blood sacrifice was accepted. It simply does not matter what man thinks, -- it only matters what GOD thinks!


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I don't disagree. But the REAL question is, are "Orthodox Jews" in agreement with GOD's plans, -- including when HE sent HIS SON to earth?
Well that is the greatest tragedy. Orthodox Jews rejected Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Christ) so now the great pretender -- the Antichrist -- will deceive them by claiming to be both God and Christ. And God will send strong delusion so that the inhabitants of the earth will succumb to the lies of Satan and the Antichrist.

The time for all Jews to be saved is right now, and many are being saved by God's grace. The time for Gentiles to be saved is also right now. But the other great tragedy is that Christendom is presently going deeper into apostasy, instead of presenting the true Gospel.
 
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... Christendom is presently going deeper into apostasy, instead of presenting the true Gospel.

Perhaps the root of the problem is people who promulgate False Doctrines and refuse to consider what Scripture actually says.

Now if these people would only "let the prophets speak" (Ref. 1 Cor. 14:29), and THEN JUDGE, -- then things might improve. :)



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Being sealed has nothing to do with recognition of any end-time scenario above any other's interpretation. Being sealed is all about having character within...Christ's character.

I'm afraid you are wrong. It has everything... to do with not being deceived in the last days.

Rev 9:4-5
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
KJV

Rev 7:3
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
KJV



That sealing specifically is for the tribulation timing, the short period on earth just prior to Christ's return.

The 144,000 in Rev.7 are Israelite Christians, the majority of them from the scattered ten lost tribes, minus Dan and Ephraim. Only three of the tribes are believing Jews.

Our Lord Jesus opened up the Seals of His Revelation for the very end of this world, giving us the signs of the end so we would not be deceived. Not understanding this is a major sign of Biblical ignorance, and doom to deception by the coming Antichrist/false Messiah.