Unquenchable Fire

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Hobie

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Lets look in scripture:
"And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh." Isaiah 66:24

“And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.Mark 9:43, 44.

So what is the unquenchable fire that scripture speaks about that burns the wicked? Doesn't that mean it will never go out? To quench means to extinguish or put out. But is it talking about the a fire from God that man cannot put out, such as that which came and destroyed Sodom and Gommorah, a type no one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it.
 

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Worms in hell ?

Jude 1:7 (KJV)
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Since there is no hell for eternal life, eternal fire is until completely consumed.
Possible unquenchable fire = "The eternal judgement of God"
Sodom and Gomorrah is not burning today, they were consumed eternally by the fiery eternal judgement of God.
 
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Worms in hell ?

Jude 1:7 (KJV)
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Since there is no hell for eternal life, eternal fire is until completely consumed.
Possible unquenchable fire = "The eternal judgement of God"
Sodom and Gomorrah is not burning today, they were consumed eternally by the fiery eternal judgement of God.

Yes, as there is no hell for eternal life as the wicked do not get eternal life, then "The eternal judgement of God" is what it is talking about. To quench means to extinguish or put out. No one will be able to put out the fire that God will send. That is the strange fire of God that brings about for the wicked who will perish . No one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it.

“Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” is meant to show the finality of what happens to the wicked. The imagery is meant to show that God will use fire to separate the wicked where nowhere in time they would be brought back. Fire has properties which is familiar to us, our experience with it, or knowledge of its nature, we understand it invariably consumes that upon which it gets a hold of. Hence it is a symbol of complete destruction; and that the expression, “Where their worm dieth not" can denote nothing less than the utter consumption of those who are cast into that fire.

This expression was one which was well known and understood by the Jews whom Christ was addressing. Isaiah and Jeremiah frequently use the figure of the undying worm and unquenchable fire. In reading the inspired word the people were familiar with these expressions.

Jeremiah 17:27
27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.

But is it still burning today, we need to read and see how the Bible uses the word "quench." It does not mean fire that will never go out. Isaiah has the following:

Isaiah 47:12-14
12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

He is talking of the fire from God they could not stop, that would burn to those who were practicing enchantments and sorceries which was a abomination to God.

Deuteronomy 18:8-10
8 They shall have like portions to eat, beside that which cometh of the sale of his patrimony.
9 When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

After the fire has accomplished its work of destruction, that fire will go out.
 

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Lets look in scripture:
"And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh." Isaiah 66:24

“And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.Mark 9:43, 44.

So what is the unquenchable fire that scripture speaks about that burns the wicked? Doesn't that mean it will never go out? To quench means to extinguish or put out. But is it talking about the a fire from God that man cannot put out, such as that which came and destroyed Sodom and Gommorah, a type no one will be able to escape from it by extinguishing it.

Does what you believe about Hell motivate you to evangelise the lost?
If it doesn't then what you believe about hell is an irrelevent intellectual exercise.
Jesus warns us that there is a place of separation from God and from all that is good. He shows us how we can avoid hell and gain heaven. We need no more information about hell.
 

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Does what you believe about Hell motivate you to evangelise the lost?
If it doesn't then what you believe about hell is an irrelevent intellectual exercise.
Jesus warns us that there is a place of separation from God and from all that is good. He shows us how we can avoid hell and gain heaven. We need no more information about hell.
Well its not just how one believes, but what happens that affects us today. There is the power of the antichrist already here and we are blind to what is happening and how it has deceived people who will perish.

Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Revelation 17:11
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

2 Peter 3:7
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

We must give the light that is shown to us in Gods word, not hide it because it is frightening to speak of the events of the day of judgment.
 

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Well its not just how one believes, but what happens that affects us today. There is the power of the antichrist already here and we are blind to what is happening and how it has deceived people who will perish.

And telling the unbelieving about what they don't believe, want to hear and are deaf to is going to make them listen?

As Paul said the god of this world has blinded the lost to the message of salvation.
What makes a difference is the gospel.