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The seven trumpets of Revelation.A trumpet is an instrument that was played to warn people of an upcoming battle or declare a King was on his way.The seven trumpets of revelation are no different.Have any of them sounded? I will answer this critical questions for you tonight.I believe 5 of the 7 have indeed sounded, however I do not know what all 5 are. I am only aware of the 2nd, 3rd and 5th. So if anyone wants to add there 2 cents about the trumpets 1 and 4 be my guest. Just remember one thing the trumpets must be in order as they are presented in the Bible.Let's start....2nd TrumpetRevelation 8:8-9And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.Now let us remember that when John was given these visions he did not know what he was really seeing he did not know our modern technology so he had to describe what he saw with the modern technology of the time. great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea:Nuclear bomb. Detonated at the end of WW2 on an island (Japan). Does this not fill the bill great mountain of fire we have all seen the pictures. Would you have described this not knowing what you were seeing 2 thousand years ago?third part of the ships were destroyed.rough numbers but here it goes 105 000 ships participated in WW2 36 000 were sunk. Now you can believe me on this or not I have tried to research this and could not really find anything useful. The numbers that I have are from a source that I believe to be credible so take it with a grain of salt if you will. So now that we have established that the second trumpet has sounded that means the first must have. Let us move to the 3rd.3rd TrumpetRevelation 8:10-11And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.This I strongly believed it happened in Europe in 1986. Does anyone recall the Chernobyl incident? This was the worst nuclear disaster in the history of man. Even worse than the atomic bombs of the 2nd world war. The radiant emitted is casiem 137 and can be dormant for 30 years. Needless to say this causes cancer (just a side note I was in Poland in 1986, yea I know that sucks). Many people have said that the worse effects of the Chernobyl incident will not be felt until 30 years have passed. So in other words many more people will die because of this. This is were it gets interesting, after the explosion 5 days of rain occurred. I don't think I need to tell anyone what that much rain will do. The rivers were flooded with radiation and carried all over Europe. The winds carried this pollution all over Europe and in diluted form to the eastern US. This is were it gets really interesting And the name of the star is called Wormwood: The holy spirit gives us the name. Believe it or not Chernobyl is Russian for Wormwood. Amazing. Here is a good explanation http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...yl_wormwood.htm5th TrumpetRevelation 9:1-12And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.....And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.....And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.There is a lot to go in this verse so bare with me please...arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.What is being described here? Remember this has to be after 1986. Well in 1991 the gulf war ended in smoke did it not? Did Saddam Hussein not burn hundreds of oil wells in Kuwait when he left? Kuwait was under total darkness for 3 months.locusts upon the earth: When describing the locusts we must remember this. John had no idea what he was seeing he had to describe what he saw to things that he knew existed. [/B]. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree[/B];Hmmm these are certainly not locust as we know them. Locusts that do not eat grass what kind of locust is that? Here it is...And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle;breastplates of iron;sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails:Now we know that a locust flies. This locust is armored so we know it is not an animal. These locusts are some sort of armored war machine that flies. Could it be a helicopter?http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/cs...IMAGES/p14b.JPGIs this not the perfect description of a helicopter to someone 2 thousand years ago? Their wings are the sound of chariots, tails like scorpions etc.they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.This is a very intriguing verse. Abaddon in the Hebrew means destruction. Apollyon means the destroyer. This is the name of the King. The king of the bottomless pit (oil wells) is Saddam Husein.
BWB: Yes, too general for the use we are referring to. Saddam is sort of your adopted name, correct?SH: Yes, it translates as “Destroyer”.
http://www.inversionmagazine.com/features/SadBrew.htmOk so what? Many people think that the 7 trumpets will sound during the tribulation. I have found no evidence of this. It seems to me at least that 5 trumpets have already occurred. If this is true we are currently living in the days of revelation and the Lord God Jesus Christ is coming back very soon. This truly is a very exciting time to be alive.
 

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The seven trumpets of Revelation.A trumpet is an instrument that was played to warn people of an upcoming battle or declare a King was on his way.The seven trumpets of revelation are no different.Have any of them sounded? I will answer this critical questions for you tonight.I believe 5 of the 7 have indeed sounded, however I do not know what all 5 are. I am only aware of the 2nd, 3rd and 5th. So if anyone wants to add there 2 cents about the trumpets 1 and 4 be my guest. Just remember one thing the trumpets must be in order as they are presented in the Bible.Let's start....2nd TrumpetRevelation 8:8-9And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.Now let us remember that when John was given these visions he did not know what he was really seeing he did not know our modern technology so he had to describe what he saw with the modern technology of the time. great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea:Nuclear bomb. Detonated at the end of WW2 on an island (Japan). Does this not fill the bill great mountain of fire we have all seen the pictures. Would you have described this not knowing what you were seeing 2 thousand years ago?third part of the ships were destroyed.rough numbers but here it goes 105 000 ships participated in WW2 36 000 were sunk. Now you can believe me on this or not I have tried to research this and could not really find anything useful. The numbers that I have are from a source that I believe to be credible so take it with a grain of salt if you will. So now that we have established that the second trumpet has sounded that means the first must have. Let us move to the 3rd.3rd TrumpetRevelation 8:10-11And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.This I strongly believed it happened in Europe in 1986. Does anyone recall the Chernobyl incident? This was the worst nuclear disaster in the history of man. Even worse than the atomic bombs of the 2nd world war. The radiant emitted is casiem 137 and can be dormant for 30 years. Needless to say this causes cancer (just a side note I was in Poland in 1986, yea I know that sucks). Many people have said that the worse effects of the Chernobyl incident will not be felt until 30 years have passed. So in other words many more people will die because of this. This is were it gets interesting, after the explosion 5 days of rain occurred. I don't think I need to tell anyone what that much rain will do. The rivers were flooded with radiation and carried all over Europe. The winds carried this pollution all over Europe and in diluted form to the eastern US. This is were it gets really interesting And the name of the star is called Wormwood: The holy spirit gives us the name. Believe it or not Chernobyl is Russian for Wormwood. Amazing. Here is a good explanation http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...yl_wormwood.htm5th TrumpetRevelation 9:1-12And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.....And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.....And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.There is a lot to go in this verse so bare with me please...arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.What is being described here? Remember this has to be after 1986. Well in 1991 the gulf war ended in smoke did it not? Did Saddam Hussein not burn hundreds of oil wells in Kuwait when he left? Kuwait was under total darkness for 3 months.locusts upon the earth: When describing the locusts we must remember this. John had no idea what he was seeing he had to describe what he saw to things that he knew existed. [/B]. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree[/B];Hmmm these are certainly not locust as we know them. Locusts that do not eat grass what kind of locust is that? Here it is...And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle;breastplates of iron;sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails:Now we know that a locust flies. This locust is armored so we know it is not an animal. These locusts are some sort of armored war machine that flies. Could it be a helicopter?http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/cs...IMAGES/p14b.JPGIs this not the perfect description of a helicopter to someone 2 thousand years ago? Their wings are the sound of chariots, tails like scorpions etc.they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.This is a very intriguing verse. Abaddon in the Hebrew means destruction. Apollyon means the destroyer. This is the name of the King. The king of the bottomless pit (oil wells) is Saddam Husein.http://www.inversionmagazine.com/features/SadBrew.htmOk so what? Many people think that the 7 trumpets will sound during the tribulation. I have found no evidence of this. It seems to me at least that 5 trumpets have already occurred. If this is true we are currently living in the days of revelation and the Lord God Jesus Christ is coming back very soon. This truly is a very exciting time to be alive.
Read Revelation 9:1 (which is talking about the 5th trumpet) The word "star" is a key word. here. It hasn't happened yet at all.
 

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I take basically a futurist view on Revelation, although similar toned-down precursors can take place as prophecy oftentimes has double fulfillment.When we look at the intensity of the book of Revelation, I always think that anyone has to be nuts to think they can survive that. Man, if I'm around when this happens, I'll just enjoy the sight of the first atomic blast in the open as I'm being vaporized. Then I don't have to go thru the rest. Most of the population according to the bible will be wiped out and even Israel only a remnant will remain, although that still will probably be in the tens of millions or possibly up to a half billion Israelites.
 

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Read Revelation 9:1 (which is talking about the 5th trumpet) The word "star" is a key word. here. It hasn't happened yet at all.
Can you explain Jag. I have been deliberating this over for days and I keep coming back to my original post because it seems to me that the "star" is given to a person. It is a key to the bottomless pit and this person (king) opens the pit.
 

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Read Revelation 9:1 (which is talking about the 5th trumpet) The word "star" is a key word. here. It hasn't happened yet at all.
Can you explain Jag.Because it seems to me that the "star" is given to a person. It is a key to the bottomless pit and this person (king) opens the pit.That star is Satan. The locusts / scorpion are the angels that follow Satan. Hope that helps.
 

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Right Jag Rev1:20 God always explains his own symbology Stars can be symbolic for Angels they can be Good angels (messengers of God ) or fallen Angels as in Satan. Rev. 9 is telling you of a time (the tribulation) when Satan is kicked from heaven given the keys to the bottomless pit where his Army of Fallen Angels(locusts Army) are held. Then the they come to earth this is the End of the 5th trump start of the 6th trump it has not occured yet.
 

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In the eighth chapter of Rev. we opened the final seal, and four trumpets were blown. Though the seals are not in order as they are numbered, the trumpets are. The trumpets are sounded to alert the people on the earth that a certain event, or happening is about to start. God is in control of all actions in these final days, and God is even using Satan to carry out part of His plan. If we are in Christ, regardless what Satan does in his roll as the Antichrist, those sealed in their minds are given victory over the Antichrist, if they but take it.When you understand what Jesus Christ is telling you in this ninth chapter, it will become clear to you that you simply do not have to take part in that system of Satan's. You don't even have to plan an attack against Satan [the Antichrist], for in that hour you will be called to give account for your belief in Jesus Christ. Jesus said in Mark 13:11 it will be the Holy Spirit that will speak through you. Your not even to think about it in advance. When the third trumpet sounded, we observed the "star" called "wormwood"; and saw how he would turn many waters, or people of all the world to his bitterness [wormwood], or world system. That one world system has formed, and is now tightening it's grip daily on every nation on the face of this earth. The third trumpet is current affairs on the news daily.Then the fourth trumpet sounded and the clouds darkened, and only a third of the signs and symbols that will be present at Jesus Christ return, started to occur. When we observe the world today, and the signs even within our nation, community, and homes; it becomes very plain that these events of the signs and symbols are here, right now. The four hidden dynasties have taken control of the our lives, and that of our nation. Those hidden dynasties are education, economics [commercial, industrial, and banking], politics, and religion. Satan's kids, the Kenites, are using these signs of the end times announcing our Lord's return, to deceive the world, and prepare the way for the false Christ, "Antichrist". This period we are in is a test by God, to see how many of His children have read his letter [the Bible] to them.Revelation 9:1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit [pit of the abyss]."The "star" that falls to the earth is the star of Isaiah 14. The star is "Lucifer", who will be the Antichrist once he arrives on earth. Satan is given the key, or authority to the bottomless pit, for this is where Satan's fallen angels are held.Revelation 9:2 "And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."This smoke is setting up the people of the earth for the supernatural things about to happen. Just like in Job's case, God will set limits how far Satan can go. What is important to us, as Christians; is that we be able to identify Satan, and his works, by what ever roll he plays, or name he choses for himself. Revelation 9:3 "And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."This locust army that comes upon the earth is Satan's army of demonic forces. They are the fallen angels, and demons, both coming with Satan, and those that are already here upon the earth. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.