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lforrest

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might be worth asking a mod to correlate his ip. I dunno if multiple accounts are allowed here?
But I guess the evasive answer speaks for itself huh
maybe vinnie will get a hint at least

No correlation was found, and I don't remember anyone else who said similar things to JellyJam.
 
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Sounds like you need to keep on looking till you find something that will work, JJ.

Oh I didn't notice this yesterday....lovely to see your face again...how are you doing Willie. How is the pain on 1-10 now?
We've missed you bro.
 
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Would be man’s way which is more prone to believe superstition before he will hear anything God has to say. You hinted at being broken, complained God hasn’t fixed you yet, then claim it is okay because you have the key to fix yourself. (Unless I misunderstood). Then do it. What is the problem then?
I never said there was a problem, I was just revisiting my history with such matters.
 

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Would be man’s way which is more prone to believe superstition before he will hear anything God has to say. You hinted at being broken, complained God hasn’t fixed you yet, then claim it is okay because you have the key to fix yourself. (Unless I misunderstood). Then do it. What is the problem then?
Because they already believe something first, they just find another belief to hide in.
 

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Seems like a lot of your comments, JJ, are about what the God you wanted to believe in has (not) done for you, rather than what you have done for God. Are you a bit disappointed at Him not being your personal "Aladdin's Lamp" to the extent you expected?
Willie I don't owe God anything, it doesn't need anything.
 

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I didn't say that, it seems that you were making it headline news. That's why I said Jesus wouldn't want you to do that.

Is that the 11th commandment? What about thou shalt not troll?
 

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I didn't say that, it seems that you were making it headline news. That's why I said Jesus wouldn't want you to do that.

Why wouldn't Jesus want me to say you had been here before or that I remembered you being here before?

You aren't making any sense to me.
 

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Why wouldn't Jesus want me to say you had been here before or that I remembered you being here before?

You aren't making any sense to me.
You're still making an issue about a user who you believe is me, it could be true, but are your beliefs about it going to help you actually know it's true?

This is why I've stated that beliefs can't guarantee any certainty on the subject you're trying to know. You can't believe your way into accurate knowledge, it only encumbers you to the point it crushers your inner mind.
 
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I never said there was a problem, I was just revisiting my history with such matters.

Then good there is no problem. I’m sorry then for misunderstanding and assuming too early you were asking for help. For the sake of conversation you said God never helped you. See I could say the opposite. All I can speak from is what I’ve seen and you would have a hard time convincing me God is not real. In my twenties I spent some time in the psych-ward of the hospital. I’ve spent most of my life living with panic attacks, anxiety and crippling fear. So much so that I couldn’t function in life. I’m fifty now. Been through medicines (nerve pills, anti-depressant that never fully helped. Just think about it...we take anti-depressant and are still depressed.) Gone to seek professional help. A Christian counselor a couple of years ago asked me what if I could be anxiety-Free. I’d only gone to see a Christian counselor at my husband’s request. When she suggested I could be anxiety-Free I did not believe anything she said. Every visit she quoted “perfect love cast out fear” and in no way did I believe her. I thought she was the crazy one and had no idea how deep my anxiety was. For me, anxiety and fear would be for life. Eventually I stopped seeing her and it wasn’t until later I look back at how much I did not believe God was the answer. I had told the counselor I lived in a prison. She suggested I figure out who opens the door of the prison. Again inside I thought she was full of it. Not a thing she said registered. To my core it was hopeless and would always be hopeless. Not so anymore. In the past couple of years I’ve had more happen in my life than ever to be anxious or fearful over ...so tell me why the past couple of years in looking to Him for strength is also the most freedom I’ve ever experienced in my life? I’m functioning in ways I thought impossible. Over compulsive behaviors diminished dramatically. I can do and handle things I never could before. “Perfect love cast out fear. He who fears has not been made perfect in love.” There is no reason to live with anxiety, fear of what this world can do, or panic. He said we don’t have to do then why are we? The only time I ever experience those things creeping back in is when it becomes again what mankind can do by their own power when we are powerless without Him. You are welcome of course to say or believe whatever you want, but for me, going from being fully convinced (or deceived) into “there is absolutely no way” to tasting of the true freedom of God...Yeah, you would have a hard time convincing me there is no God. As I would have a hard time convincing you there is. Again, I can’t tell you why He didn’t help you(as you say). But that is not the testimony that I share but that He has helped.
 
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You're still making an issue about a user who you believe is me, it could be true, but are your beliefs about it going to help you actually know it's true?

This is why I've stated that beliefs can't guarantee any certainty on the subject you're trying to know. You can't believe your way into accurate knowledge, it only encumbers you to the point it crushers your inner mind.

You still aren't making any sense to me, sorry.
 

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Why are you saying that? Are you a little upset?
Not upset at all, I’m just running to my next job considering how amazing the Word of God. It’s written by some 40 different men over several thousand years all with different personalities(distinctive voices) yet there’s an underlying voice. Like a fingerprint. Sort of like no artist can replicate another when it comes to a painting.
 

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Not upset at all, I’m just running to my next job considering how amazing the Word of God. It’s written by some 40 different men over several thousand years all with different personalities(distinctive voices) yet there’s an underlying voice. Like a fingerprint. Sort of like no artist can replicate another when it comes to a painting.
Do you know my voice?
 

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I pretty much recall how our conversation ended last time. I think I said that those who have begun to walk in the Spirit can be pretty much guileless, assuming someone to be sincere and acting without guile, which at times might make them come across as pathetic to someone who is toying with them. (We don't really care how we look to others so much any more, its more important to us to give others a lot of good will and benefit of the doubt.)

But as I think I said then, we may be a bit guileless and not as crafty as men still belonging to the world, but we are not without discernment. We can see you are just bored and trying to mock us. And even then, we aren't mad at you. We just see that we are wasting our time with you, say a prayer for you, and then move on to something more fruitful.