JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

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Jesus is the eternal Son in the triune Godhead. The trinity dwelt in the man Jesus Christ who spoke in the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son.
so now the son, JESUS has a split personality. please explain to us who, or which person is in heaven as the son, and which person as the son on earth according to John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven".

and tell us how Jesus the son is in heaven at the same time on earth. please explain.... :eek:

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so now the son, JESUS has a split personality. please explain to us who, or which person is in heaven as the son, and which person as the son on earth according to John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven".

and tell us how Jesus the son is in heaven at the same time on earth. please explain.... :eek:

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God is everywhere.
 

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God is everywhere.
NO, "HE" WHO IS GOD IS EVERYWHERE.

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR DISTINCT "PERSONS"? .... :cool:.

listen, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect".

"I", not they are the almighty God?..... LOL. "I" is a single designation. the wheels just keep coming off ,,,, lol.

it's one thing true about a "LIE". it's always running, because it knows it don't have long to live". your trinity is running for its life,

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NO, "HE" WHO IS GOD IS EVERYWHERE.

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR DISTINCT "PERSONS"? .... :cool:.

listen, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect".

"I", not they are the almighty God?..... LOL. "I" is a single designation. the wheels just keep coming off ,,,, lol.

it's one thing true about a "LIE". it's always running, because it knows it don't have long to live". your trinity is running for its life,

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God (the trinity) is Spirit and has no beginning or end no matter what direction you point in.
 
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NO, "HE" WHO IS GOD IS EVERYWHERE.

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR DISTINCT "PERSONS"? .... :cool:.

listen, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect".

"I", not they are the almighty God?..... LOL. "I" is a single designation. the wheels just keep coming off ,,,, lol.

it's one thing true about a "LIE". it's always running, because it knows it don't have long to live". your trinity is running for its life,

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The Pharisees agree with you. Jesus does not.
 

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The Pharisees agree with you. Jesus does not.
let's see.
1 Corinthians 10:1 "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1 Corinthians 10:2 "And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1 Corinthians 10:3 "And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1 Corinthians 10:4 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

dave, dave as the apostle said, we don’t want you to be “IGNORANT”.

listen, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect".

The “LORD” is the Rock who is JESUS, 1 Samuel 2:2 "There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
Psalms 18:2 "The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Psalms 18:31 "For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?
HOLD IT, this is clear cut .... "who is God?" read Psalms 18:31 again. it ask who is GOD? the LORD, who is the "ROCK" .... lol.and JESUS is that Rock as "Father", and he's that ROCK, with "FLESH and BONE" as Son. :eek:

well dave it seems like the LORD JESUS disagree with you.... (smile) .... the wheels are coming off so fast.....

My, my, my, ever learning.

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let's see.
1 Corinthians 10:1 "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1 Corinthians 10:2 "And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1 Corinthians 10:3 "And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1 Corinthians 10:4 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

dave, dave as the apostle said, we don’t want you to be “IGNORANT”.

listen, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect".

The “LORD” is the Rock who is JESUS, 1 Samuel 2:2 "There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
Psalms 18:2 "The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Psalms 18:31 "For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?
HOLD IT, this is clear cut .... "who is God?" read Psalms 18:31 again. it ask who is GOD? the LORD, who is the "ROCK" .... lol.and JESUS is that Rock as "Father", and he's that ROCK, with "FLESH and BONE" as Son. :eek:

well dave it seems like the LORD JESUS disagree with you.... (smile) .... the wheels are coming off so fast.....

My, my, my, ever learning.

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But you are Phariseeizing the text and Rorschaching the rest.
 

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no scripture to rebut?, or reprove? we laugh at your ignorance of the false trinity........ lol.

but hang in there one day if the LORD Jesus is willing your light of understanding may be turn on, but dave you got to pay your power bill. "REPENT".

Ephesians 4:22 "That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;Ephesians 4:23 "And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

you cain't do it .... why, John 3:19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

now what about John 3:13, your explination of this split person of the Son on earth and in heaven at the same time.

to all, WARNING, the devil is running out of lies for his trinity. the doctrine changed from 3 Gods to 3 persons, look for another change soon..... (smile), for it's coming.

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no scripture to rebut?, or reprove? we laugh at your ignorance of the false trinity........ lol.

but hange in there one day if the LORD Jesus is willing your light of understanding may be turn on, but dave you got to pay your power bill. "REPENT".

Ephesians 4:22 "That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;Ephesians 4:23 "And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

you cain't do it .... why, John 3:19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

now what about John 3:13, your explination of this split person of the Son on earth and in heaven at the same time.

to all, WARNING, the devil is running out of lies for his trinity. the doctrine changed from 3 Gods to 3 persons, look for another change soon..... (smile), for it's coming.

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We still have a phariseeism that out phariseeizes the pharisees with your mumbo jumbo.
 

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We still have a phariseeism that out phariseeizes the pharisees with your mumbo jumbo.
now it's mumbo jumbo? lol, lol, lol, dave you're a gas, full of hot air..... lol

we still is waiting for your explination of John 3:13 ....... well?.

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now it's mumbo jumbo? lol, lol, lol, dave you're a gas, full of hot air..... lol

we still is waiting for your explination of John 3:13 ....... well?.

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You cannot understand the bible apart from the Trinity doctrine.
 

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You cannot understand the bible apart from the Trinity doctrine.
can we get some real trinitarian in here to address the John 3:13 question as well as the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, and the Revelation 1:1 and Revelation 22:6 questions.

the wheels are flying off so fast, Ooop's the last one is gone, the wagon is draging the ground, just like daddy wagon, the devil, on the ground.... (smile) ...lol.

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can we get some real trinitarian in here to address the John 3:13 question as well as the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, and the Revelation 1:1 and Revelation 22:6 questions.

the wheels are flying off so fast, Ooop's the last one is gone, the wagon is draging the ground, just like daddy wagon, the devil, on the ground.... (smile) ...lol.

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Learn the trinity doctrines and your questions will disappear.
 

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Learn the trinity doctrines and your questions will disappear.
I had already learned it, and found it to be false. ... (smile).

because John 3:13 here proves that it is false. want in try to help it out? just explain how the son who is distinct as you say from the father be in heaven and on earth in flesh and bone ..... with blood at the same time. well........

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I had already learned it, and found it to be false. ... (smile).

because John 3:13 here proves that it is false. want in try to help it out? just explain how the son who is distinct as you say from the father be in heaven and on earth in flesh and bone ..... with blood at the same time. well........

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You clearly flunked apprehension skills 101.
 

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Adding to what has been discussed in the topic "Trinity vs. Tritheism".

Jesus the only TRUE GOD as Father and Son. THE "WE" of John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".

Question, "How do the Father and the Son dwell in us?". let the bible answer.
1 John 3:18 "My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
1 John 3:19 "And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
1 John 3:20 "For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
1 John 3:21 "Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
1 John 3:22 "And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:23 "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

HERE IS THE ANSWER WE ARE LOOKING FOR,

1 John 3:24 "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us". BINGO, there's the answer, lets confirm this, John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". BINGO, comfirmation. when one keep the Son commandments he keeps the Fathers commandments. John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love".

what is that command? John 15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you". once more, John 15:17 "These things I command you, that ye love one another".

and who dwells in us the Spirit of God, of Christ, the HOLY SPIRIT, God almighty. Ephesians 4:4 "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling". ONE "Spirit?", who is ....... 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty". the "Lord" is that Spirit, and that's Lord with the "L" only in caps.

the SAME Spirit who is LORD Father, and Lord Son. what a mighty God we serve. the OT prophets testified of this, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".

my God he put it right in your face, but as the prophet said, "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?", Isaiah 53:1 (kjv).

right in our faces, 1 Corinthians 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. again what did Isaiah say? "Who hath believed our report?".

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Adding to what has been discussed in the topic "Trinity vs. Tritheism".

Jesus the only TRUE GOD as Father and Son. THE "WE" of John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".

Question, "How do the Father and the Son dwell in us?". let the bible answer.
1 John 3:18 "My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
1 John 3:19 "And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
1 John 3:20 "For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
1 John 3:21 "Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
1 John 3:22 "And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:23 "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

HERE IS THE ANSWER WE ARE LOOKING FOR,

1 John 3:24 "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us". BINGO, there's the answer, lets confirm this, John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". BINGO, comfirmation. when one keep the Son commandments he keeps the Fathers commandments. John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love".

what is that command? John 15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you". once more, John 15:17 "These things I command you, that ye love one another".

and who dwells in us the Spirit of God, of Christ, the HOLY SPIRIT, God almighty. Ephesians 4:4 "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling". ONE "Spirit?", who is ....... 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty". the "Lord" is that Spirit, and that's Lord with the "L" only in caps.

the SAME Spirit who is LORD Father, and Lord Son. what a mighty God we serve. the OT prophets testified of this, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".

my God he put it right in your face, but as the prophet said, "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?", Isaiah 53:1 (kjv).

right in our faces, 1 Corinthians 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. again what did Isaiah say? "Who hath believed our report?".

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God is one Spirit being with three distinct persons of the same single Spirit.
 

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God is one Spirit being with three distinct persons of the same single Spirit.
ERROR the spirit of ERROR told you that?.

one Spirit one person "diversified" in flesh... (smile). John 1:3 and Isaiah prove that out.

so no, your assessment again is in ERROR.

the false trinity is "DEAD".

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ERROR the spirit of ERROR told you that?.

one Spirit one person "diversified" in flesh... (smile). John 1:3 and Isaiah prove that out.

so no, your assessment again is in ERROR.

the false trinity is "DEAD".

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If you drop your denominational mind set and study for yourself, it would thrill beyond anything else to peer into the Godhead from a new covenant perspective.
 

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If you drop your denominational mind set and study for yourself, it would thrill beyond anything else to peer into the Godhead from a new covenant perspective.
GINOLJC, to all.

here's the New Covenant and Old Covenant perspective Godhead. JESUS, the TRUE and only God, the Holy Spirit never changed. there is no God with him, meaning that there is no Separated and distinct Son of God. nor ant separate and distinct Holy Spirit, or Father. listen, Isaiah 45:6 "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else". Bingo, ther is no other "PERSOB"...... :eek: say what? there is no other person in the the Godhead beside him, meaning ONE PERSON.

what you need to do is learn the "WHOLE" covenant... (smile).

we use scriptures to backup what we say, we don't use vain babbling for every answer.

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