MARK 6:3 DID JESUS HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ?

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Clearly Mary took a vow of virginity. We know this because in the verse is Luke 1:34 she said, “How shall this be, seeing I do not know man.”

OK . . . since Mary wasn't yet married to that point . . . it's a perfectly valid question, and requires no assumption that Mary was vowing lifelong chastity.

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Your suspicions of my views of the "reformers", well, what does that have to do with whether Mary had other children besides Jesus? I'm just reading the Bible.

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So did they....They came up with a different interpretation than you....sooooo what makes you right and them wrong?

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Mary was to become Queen of Heaven and Co-Redemptrix with Christ.

Therefore, according to Roman Catholic theology she was (a) born sinless , (b) remained a perpetual virgin, and (c) became the mother of God (rather than just the mother of Jesus).

But there is a lot more to the cult of Mary. For all intents and purposes, Christ has been substituted by Mary, who becomes the Mediatrix between men and God and Christ. They just stopped short of saying that she also died on the cross for our sins. The cult of Mary itself is conclusive proof that Roman Catholicism is false Christianity.
Once again, you've resorted to lying because you simply cannot address the points I have made.

Please show me the Catholic teaching that states Mary has "replaced" Jesus.
The fact of the matter is that we are ALL called upon to be Co-Mediators. This is what Paul meant when he wrote:
Col. 1:24
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church.


Referring to Mary as Co-Mediatrix doesn't mean anything different.

The REAL problem her is your complete linguistic ignorance. "Co" does NOT imply "equal". That's an Americanization of the Latin. "Co" simply means "with", my ignorant friend . . .
 

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OK . . . since Mary wasn't yet married to that point . . . it's a perfectly valid question, and requires no assumption that Mary was vowing lifelong chastity.

Much love!
Mary’s question to the Angel Gabriel is very telling about her intention to remain a virgin:

Luke 1:34
Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?

Mary was a betrothed girl who knew about marital relations. She didn’t say, “How can this be, since I have not known a man?
She said, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?

She was stating her intention to remain a virgin and was puzzled by Gabriel’s announcement that she was to have a child. She knew that God was aware of her intentions. Her bewilderment and the words “I do not know”, as opposed to “I have not known”, is CLEAR evidence that she had no intention of having marital relations.
 

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it's amazing how people still believe in superstitions. thery believe in Mary still a virgin. she's a Co-Redemptrix with Christ, next she be co-saviour.

Now she's the type that was the Ark of the Covenan. how many belts can you make out of ONE snake skin?.

well Mary is not a virgin anymore. and she's no Co-Redemptrix with Christ, there is ONLY one Advocate, or mediator.

and as for a ark? no
 

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Mary was to become Queen of Heaven and Co-Redemptrix with Christ.

Therefore, according to Roman Catholic theology she was (a) born sinless , (b) remained a perpetual virgin, and (c) became the mother of God (rather than just the mother of Jesus).

But there is a lot more to the cult of Mary. For all intents and purposes, Christ has been substituted by Mary, who becomes the Mediatrix between men and God and Christ. They just stopped short of saying that she also died on the cross for our sins. The cult of Mary itself is conclusive proof that Roman Catholicism is false Christianity.
I absolutely believe that. But try telling it to a RC and they will believe the church's brainwashing every time.
 

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ERROR, Mary carried a dead man inside her. Jesus who is the ARK is alive. no woman carry life in her. only GOD. supportive scripture, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

for the body without the spirit is "DEAD".

yes, you're right, you're a lay person.

PICJAG.
A LOT of idiotic things have been uttered by you - but this is probably the worst.
Babies in the womb are "DEAD"??

NOT according to Scripture . . .
Jer. 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
 

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first there is no pre-adamic at all. that's not theology, that's a error on mam's part. the scriptures are clear, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit".

I believe the BIBLE.

Agreed. I just mentioned it for reference.

Listen to scripture, 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation". know this first.

And this means, to the best of my understanding, that Scripture did not originate in the mind of the prophet, but the Holy Spirit gave it to them.

and second, Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ”.

I see this happen a lot.

now if God said "Adam was the first man, why look for a pre-adamic man?. question is you after God or man?.
So as you now see I don't think there was a "pre-adamic creation".

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I absolutely believe that. But try telling it to a RC and they will believe the church's brainwashing every time.
You "absolutely believe that" because you're just as ignorant as @Enoch111.

Ummmmmm, talk about "brainwashing" . . .
 

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Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.

Some Roman Catholics claim that these “brothers” were actually Jesus’ cousins. However, in each instance, the specific Greek word for “brother” is used. While the word can refer to other relatives, its normal and literal meaning is a physical brother. There was a Greek word for “cousin,” and it was not used. Further, if they were Jesus’ cousins, why would they so often be described as being with Mary, Jesus’ mother? There is nothing in the context of His mother and brothers coming to see Him that even hints that they were anyone other than His literal, blood-related, half-brothers.

A second Roman Catholic argument is that Jesus’ brothers and sisters were the children of Joseph from a previous marriage. An entire theory of Joseph's being significantly older than Mary, having been previously married, having multiple children, and then being widowed before marrying Mary is invented without any biblical basis. The problem with this is that the Bible does not even hint that Joseph was married or had children before he married Mary. If Joseph had at least six children before he married Mary, why are they not mentioned in Joseph and Mary’s trip to Bethlehem (Luke 2:4-7) or their trip to Egypt (Matthew 2:13-15) or their trip back to Nazareth (Matthew 2:20-23)?

There is no biblical reason to believe that these siblings are anything other than the actual children of Joseph and Mary. Those who oppose the idea that Jesus had half-brothers and half-sisters do so, not from a reading of Scripture, but from a preconceived concept of the perpetual virginity of Mary, which is itself clearly unbiblical: “But he (Joseph) had no union with her (Mary) until she gave birth to a son. And he gave Him the name Jesus” (Matthew 1:25). Jesus had half-siblings, half-brothers and half-sisters, who were the children of Joseph and Mary. That is the clear and unambiguous teaching of God’s Word.

But Mary you will not accept a word of that so why did I bother? Seems like you just like to argue.
Gotquestions.com gets their inspiration from the men who disagreed with the Reformers. They repeat a 500 year old tradition of men.

You get their inspiration from the Reformers of the Reformers.....:(
 

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:( You gave up already.....

Since none of her children are EVER named and there is NOT ONE mention of her having other children, except Jesus, then silence of Scripture is evidence.

+2 for Mary.......;)

zero for Pearl :(

Silence of Scripture is Never evidence of anything.

so . . . you may want to re-check your "scoreboard". But seriously, what place do these sorts of comments have?

Are we into celebrating ourselves?

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Silence of Scripture is Never evidence of anything.

so . . . you may want to re-check your "scoreboard". But seriously, what place do these sorts of comments have?

Are we into celebrating ourselves?

Much love!
Scripture is silent as to what belongs in Scripture (table of contents) ;)
 

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Gotquestions.com gets their inspiration from the men who disagreed with the Reformers. They repeat a 500 year old tradition of men.

You get their inspiration from the Reformers of the Reformers.....:(
Well you would say that Mary, seeing as you are outside of the true Church.
 

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it's amazing how people still believe in superstitions. thery believe in Mary still a virgin. she's a Co-Redemptrix with Christ, next she be co-saviour.

Now she's the type that was the Ark of the Covenan. how many belts can you make out of ONE snake skin?.

well Mary is not a virgin anymore. and she's no Co-Redemptrix with Christ, there is ONLY one Advocate, or mediator.

and as for a ark? no
That's precisely the kind of cowardly "non-answer" I would expect from you.
A thousand denials doesn't equal a SINGLE explanation.

Now - anybody willing to take a REAL crack at posts #21 and #132??
 
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Silence of Scripture is Never evidence of anything.

so . . . you may want to re-check your "scoreboard". But seriously, what place do these sorts of comments have?

Are we into celebrating ourselves?

Much love!
Scripture is silent on who wrote the book of Mark and Matthew.....;)
 
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Scripture is silent as to what belongs in Scripture (table of contents) ;)

An argument from silence is invalid.

Let's stay on point.

You yourself say that your argument is based on the silence of Scripture, and that is what I see to, so we are agreed.

Much love!
Mark
 

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Scripture is silent on who wrote the book of Mark and Matthew.....;)

Does that change a single word written?

We can discuss authorship of passages of Scripture, I suppose this means you are done discussing Jesus' family?

Much love!
 

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An argument from silence is invalid.

Let's stay on point.

You yourself say that your argument is based on the silence of Scripture, and that is what I see to, so we are agreed.

Much love!
Mark
Not valid in your world.....Valid in the world of bible scholars.
 

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Does that change a single word written?

We can discuss authorship of passages of Scripture, I suppose this means you are done discussing Jesus' family?

Much love!
There is nothing more to discuss.....Scripture NEVER names anyone but Jesus as a child of Mary.
 
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