Lordship vs Free Grace

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justbyfaith

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This guy is very likely a false teacher. I wouldn't trust him any farther than I can throw him (and I'm getting older and weaker).
 

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All you have done is listen to KJVO sources.

If you do like the manuscript study, which I did in the past, KJV fails. It is a political document.
 

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The kjv is the inspired, inerrant, word of the Lord. Reject it for another translation, and it is possible, even probable, that you won't even be saved after all is said and done.

2Ti 4:1, I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2, Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3, For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4, And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 1:13, Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 

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The kjv is the inspired, inerrant, word of the Lord. Reject it for another translation, and it is possible, even probable, that you won't even be saved after all is said and done.

2Ti 4:1, I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2, Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3, For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4, And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 1:13, Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
Watch the videos. They biblically and historically tear your argument apart with evidence.

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My form of free grace says God offered salvation by faith. Anything else is by works.

Salvation by faith is not possible unless you believe Jesus is Lord.

It is also impossible unless you believe there is no other God. Even at the young age I came to Christ it was number question if the flesh of Jesus Christ was God, there was just so obvious it was not.

It was also obvious there was only one gospel, not many roads to Christ.

With the Holy Spirit working in and on us many truths are just obvious.
 
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It's neither

Does Christendom preach the Gospel?

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Mainstream Christianity teaches that everyone is born with an immortal soul that can not be destroyed... and it is only a matter of Where you will spend eternity, not whether you'll have an eternity to spend.

Now if that is true, why would anyone have to seek after immortality, if they are already immortal souls according to Christian beliefs?

2 Timothy 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour YESHUA Mashiach, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Eternal Life and Immortality are brought to light by the Gospel.

2 Th 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not The Gospel of our Adonai YESHUA Mashiach:

Every time you find the Grace of God, you see it manifest with action, one says he has faith, another says he has works, I'll show you my faith by my works. James 2:18

The Scriptures by pi and phi

Because without faith it is Impossible to please Him, Calvinism and Arminianism, OSAS vs. Saved and walk away, endure to the end doing what He has called you to do, then you'll not have to worry about losing your salvation if you are Saved, walking in His Grace, The Power He gives all those that receive Him to do His Will. Psalms 40:8 Romans 7:22

If not, that's what is considered, the works of the flesh. wood hay and stubble will be your offering to Him, if you were saved. burnt up, worthless, like this never ending debate... which doesn't produce any Fruit whatsoever.

Man's soul is not immortal, the wicked will be destroyed.. Matthew 10:28 in Gehenna, the lake of fire, the second death, after the appropriate punishment has been administered.

Those that didn't know the Masters will, will be given few stripes, those that did and refused, will be given many Stripes before destruction. Each according to what they deserve.

It was the serpent that said, "you shall not surely die"

The premise of the false Gospel of Christendom..
 
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I am not going to sit and watch all that.

But maybe what you are looking for is Lordship Salvation ? I had a mate put a spin on that one that was really stupid, he claimed such was wrong. but he was barking up the wrong tree.

Lordship salvation to me is that you have all your faith in Jesus Christ and abide in him only and as far as Grace goes well that abounds in the Lord Jesus only, outside of that Grace just does not exist.

Some think that grace is Grace, but no it's not as Grace is much more than grace, like that only an atheist believes it means, fact is that an atheist does not have Grace, so they can not understand the concept, just as one who has only little faith is the same boat.
 

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While salvation is not of works, we find that obedience to the moral tenets of the gospel is foundational to our house that we are building standing firm against the storms of life.