1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

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The angel told Cornelius to call for Peter and that he would give him WORDS BY WHICH HE WOULD BE SAVED. So was he saved? The angel said he still needed to be saved. What was going to do it? The HS? No, it was going to be words. Preaching. Which is in perfect harmony with Paul in Rom 10:13-15
Acts 10:35. Says that he that fears God and works righteousness is accepted by God. Cornelius still needed to work righteousness.
Error, the action was to show that God accept/save all men who fear him.
Acts 10:34 "Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 "But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

PICJAG.
 

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Error, the action was to show that God accept/save all men who fear him.
Acts 10:34 "Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 "But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

PICJAG.
I said that earlier. The HS was given for effect to persuade the Jews.
So the passage I quoted to you was in error? Read acts 11:13,14
 

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Why didn’t you answer? The verse was directly speaking to people who had been with him since the beginning. Have you? You claim these passages are directed at you. You must also have miraculous memory. You won’t answer because of what you’ll have to admit.
ha maybe, lemme go look.
Ok yes, imo you are completely justified in adding "only" to that Scripture passage from a literal reading, i agree. So my apologies. I still would not do that, especially after considering other Scripture, but i get the justification now at least

Now i could illustrate how that has put you into hell, right now, Bc there is a sense in which i have been with Christ since "the beginning," same as you and every little child, but i see there that the 12 were being legitimized also, and i don't mean to say that a literal reading is completely useless either.

(Judas was there from the beginning too right, so that applies to him too?)

So with that in mind, could you clarify what i would have to admit?
Prolly fight you tooth and nail there too i guess lol
we'll see

And btw ty, and ntmy
 
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When someone tells you to accept Christ and say some prayer for salvation.....you should always ask....where is that in the NT? A hint. It isn’t in there.
You are upside down!!
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To receive Christ, is to accept Christ!
John 1[12] But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
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Rom. 8[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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2 Timothy 3
[1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
[2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
[3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
[4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
[5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 
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ha maybe, lemme go look.
Ok yes, imo you are completely justified in adding "only" to that Scripture passage from a literal reading, i agree. So my apologies. I still would not do that, especially after considering other Scripture, but i get the justification now at least

Now i could illustrate how that has put you into hell, right now, Bc there is a sense in which i have been with Christ since "the beginning," same as you and every little child, but i see there that the 12 were being legitimized also, and i don't mean to say that a literal reading is completely useless either.

(Judas was there from the beginning too right, so that applies to him too?)

So with that in mind, could you clarify what i would have to admit?
Prolly fight you tooth and nail there too i guess lol
we'll see

And btw ty, and ntmy
You would have to admit that, you personally, do not have the spirit in the way it was promised to the apostles. They would receive power, they would have miraculous memory, they would be guided into all truth. But, is this passage also for us today? Yes, in principle. When you read and apply what they wrote you too will be guided into all truth, you don’t need miraculous memory because you can study and look it up. You don’t need power you have Gods fully revealed word. The gospel is the power unto salvation. That is what this whole thing is about. All these people claiming they have some direct operation of the Spirit and they don’t. They have no power and can demonstrate nothing but teaching false doctrine.
Now you can illustrate how I am going to hell right now.
 

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You are upside down!!
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To receive Christ, is to accept Christ!
John 1[12] But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
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Rom. 8[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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2 Timothy 3
[1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
[2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
[3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
[4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
[5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
You seem to be arguing for praying for your salvation. So, show me where anybody was ever told to or who might be the example of an alien sinner praying for their salvation. The “sinners prayer” as it might be called.
Did they just “accept Christ as their personal savior”?
Is that what they did on Pentecost? Is that what the Samaritans did? Is that what Saul did? Is that what the Eunuch did? Is that what the Romans did? Is that what the Ephesians and Corinthians did? Is that what Lydia did? Did Cornelius just accept Christ and pray for salvation?
The truth is GOD ACCEPTS US. Acts 10 tells us that those that fear him and works righteousness will be accepted by God. What if you “accept Jesus” but then don’t obey or don’t work righteousness? Will you then be accepted in return?
 

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Now you can illustrate how I am going to hell right now.
Ok, but it's prolly gonna get messy really fast as i feel the need--the need for weed, it's sitting right here on the table but i haven't smoked for like 3 days Bc i'm tryna quit for some reason that's prolly stupid Bc it works for my hell quite well--to point out that i meant "you all," as in "believers," meaning to reflect You think you're doing great, but your face is on fire or whatever those vv are, iow i'll prolly start SiT...Speaking in tongues, sorry, really quick, so lemme see if i can find a channel here and stick to it for a minute, Bc after all i am just as firmly in that you all as anyone i guess
 

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You would have to admit that, you personally, do not have the spirit in the way it was promised to the apostles.
Like hell i would lol. Yes, i certainly would, i am doing greater things than them imo, but truthfully i am not able to recall much but rampant stupidity from the Apostles in your definition anyway, maybe you could provide an example
They would receive power, they would have miraculous memory, they would be guided into all truth.
ditto on the example thingy, ty

which i could provide examples from my life, only i would then be boasting i guess, and prolly end up testifying of myself too, so lemme think. Maybe i could use another person, for example, is Paul an Apostle?

on to the next channel
 

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Now you can illustrate how I am going to hell right now.

It is not up to anyone else to illustrate your fate.

Either you have heartfully Accepted Jesus as the Son of God and Christ Messiah, or you haven't.

Either you are IN Standing "WITH" God, or you are "AGAINST" God.

Proclaim your own Standing, and thereafter an other will know your fate, by your own declaration.

Glory to God,
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Like hell i would lol. Yes, i certainly would, i am doing greater things than them imo, but truthfully i am not able to recall much but rampant stupidity from the Apostles in your definition anyway, maybe you could provide an example
ditto on the example thingy, ty

which i could provide examples from my life, only i would then be boasting i guess, and prolly end up testifying of myself too, so lemme think. Maybe i could use another person, for example, is Paul an Apostle?

on to the next channel
Clarify. Provide an example of what? All I got is something about rampant stupidity from the apostles.
 

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But, is this passage also for us today? Yes, in principle. When you read and apply what they wrote you too will be guided into all truth, you don’t need miraculous memory because you can study and look it up
Are you tryna lead here Bc wadr it sounds like you are tryna lead, not sure where this "miracle memory" thing came in, and wadr when i see most um believers conscientiously reading...ha well not reading at all maybe, mostly letting others read for them, wolves, and then applying what they...have not read, they are led to sing "When We All Get to Heaven" right, do you sing "When...that song?

Imo we will be guided into all truth when we eat some what is it?
But first you gotta cross a sea, see, a sea of reeds
 
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It is not up to anyone else to illustrate your fate.

Either you have heartfully Accepted Jesus as the Son of God and Christ Messiah, or you haven't.

Either you are IN Standing "WITH" God, or you are "AGAINST" God.

Proclaim your own Standing, and thereafter an other will know your fate, by your own declaration.

Glory to God,
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He’s the one that said he could so I was asking him to follow through on it. You don’t make a claim like that and leave a man hanging.
 

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Are you tryna lead here Bc wadr it sounds like you are tryna lead, not sure where this "miracle memory" thing came in, and wadr when i see most um believers conscientiously reading...ha well not reading at all maybe, mostly letting others read for them, wolves, and then applying what they...have not read, they are led to sing "When We All Get to Heaven" right, do you sing "When...that song?

Imo you will be guided into all truth when you eat some what is it?
But first you gotta cross a sea, see, a sea of reeds
You are right. Nobody reads and studies except for there favorite pet passages. Let’s just take what the “pastor” says.
 

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He’s the one that said he could so I was asking him to follow through on it. You don’t make a claim like that and leave a man hanging.

Maybe he has read something you claimed, that I have not read.

Can you make a declaration to clear things up?
Are you IN Standing "WITH" God or "AGAINST" God?

Glory to God,
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You don’t need power you have Gods fully revealed word.
Ok don't wanna say what i mean here, as that would be offensive i guess, kudos on not getting offended yet btw, i am impressed, anyway what can i say here, man...it is my firm conviction that you have conflated Bible with Word, and this is a sin, to me at least now, for me i should say maybe. Wadr i read and you will receive power when from the Bible, and i do not, ever, want to hear Word again bro, let Him talk to you, Bc if He talks to me again i am gonna die, plus i have no clean pants right now, which i guess none of that makes any sense huh but i am understating if anything.

Your word i can entertain for the rest of the day ok, i can search the Scriptures to verify it, see
 

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All these people claiming they have some direct operation of the Spirit and they don’t. They have no power and can demonstrate nothing but teaching false doctrine.
Totally huh, i completely agree, which assures me that i cannot agree at all, and that that is surely all crap, and we are just indulging ourselves there i guess. I was completely sure you were intentionally channeling Satan last night but somehow this am I have now changed my mind, which fwiw i don't recall any believers...sorry, "Believers" doing here yet. Although i have been in agreement with several at several points, don't get me wrong

So iow You All believe this ezack same thing, right, and i am too, or i mean i was but now i am, maybe Bc i asked or something? But now, herenow, dunno about later but now i am walking on water, Bc who can teach me what i don't want to learn? :0

All slaves are willing slaves, and i guess a coat of many colors can um put you in situations that seem pretty heinous, temporarily, but you might find yourself Second in Command and i guess even Doing It with Queens if you want?

(yikes)
 
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Ok let’s get balance. You say we receive the Spirit as promised in acts 2:38.
In acts 8 we see this..
Acts 8:15-16 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
We see here that what Peter promised was not the HS as the gift after baptism. The reason I know that because just as you stated, we have now received balance and understanding from the scripture. These individuals were baptized but did not receive the Spirit. Do you believe in salvation by faith alone? if not then what do you believe one must do in order to be saved?

I believe in God's kindness (grace) through trust (faith). Yes, through trust is the way it all happens.

Remember the foolish Galatians? The apostle said: who has led you astray from the simplicity of trust? Let me ask you a question - did you receive the Holy Spirit through trust? Yes of course you did. So why then are you trying to perfect yourselves another way, by working? If you received the Holy Spirit through trust, then you need to continue in that trust.

I'm aware that's again a paraphrase. I've put it into my own words. But you can read the verse in Galatians.
 
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