The Chariots of God- UFO's

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Christina

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Kriss,It clearly says "like" a whirlwind. Meaning spinning.horeses-cuwc 1) swallow, swift (as in swift flight)2) horsea) chariot horsescan mean riding on horseback
Thats the Word for Horse and a fast horse isnt spinning unless its playing ring around the rosies.the Word for Whirlwind simply means STORM-windWhirlwind- cuwphah 1) storm-wind
 

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No, Red.I take the WHOLE of scripture into account. And refuse to inject meaning into God's word, like the AC will come in a UFO.
First of all, I never said anything like that- and Im not sure if anyone else did either. If you want to take the whole bible into account concerning Christs' return- Start with Revelations 19:11-20. That alone throws this 2nd return of Christ in a flying disk out the window. Why is this so important to you- that you have to stick with your original idea, when scripture clearly teaches otherwise?
 

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thats the word for horse and a fast horse isnt spinning unless its playing ring around the rosies.the word for whirlwind simply means storm-windwhirlwind- cuwphah 1) storm-wind
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No, Red.I take the WHOLE of scripture into account. And refuse to inject meaning into God's word, like the AC will come in a UFO.H7393רכבrekebBDB Definition:1) a team, chariot, chariotry, mill-stone, riders1a) chariotry, chariots1b) chariot (single)1c) upper millstone (as riding on lower millstone) (or a disc)1d) riders, troop (of riders), horsemen, pair of horsemen, men riding, ass-riders, camel-ridersPart of Speech: noun masculine
We never said he would all I said is its my own opinion he could I never said God said it I said it my opinion only and we know how opinions are everyone has one they mean nothing And your full of baloney you only take into account what scripture you choose not the whole of it or you would know how Christ will return Just like he left those are Gods words
 

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No, Red.I take the WHOLE of scripture into account. And refuse to inject meaning into God's word, like the AC will come in a UFO.H7393רכבrekebBDB Definition:1) a team, chariot, chariotry, mill-stone, riders1a) chariotry, chariots1b) chariot (single)1c) upper millstone (as riding on lower millstone) (or a disc)1d) riders, troop (of riders), horsemen, pair of horsemen, men riding, ass-riders, camel-ridersPart of Speech: noun masculine
Thats the Word for Horse and a fast horse isnt spinning unless its playing ring around the rosies.the Word for Whirlwind simply means STORM-windWhirlwind- cuwphah 1) storm-windXD! @ Kriss@ 1 of 3, read the Word without any preconceived ideas...
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LIKE a whirlwind.And yes, someone did imply that the AC would come this way. Or that these are demonic vehicles.And Chariot can simply mean a vehicle.
 

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Yep would not be a bit surprised if this is How Anti Christ arrives Luke10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
I guess it was you Kriss.
 

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Again it was an OPINION a guess a speculation NOT SCRIPTURE wouldnt be surprised is not saying its scripturebut I guess you see what you want in all words
 

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Doh! Bullseye! Did I hit a nerve Kriss? Lol From http://www.bibleufo.com/chariots.htmFlying Vehicles ChariotsThere are 10 verses describing chariots as vehiclesin the Bible A clear indication of the physical nature of these flying craft is their description as chariots of the Elohiym. The words from which ‘chariot’ is translated mean vehicle, cavalry, or millstone, which, of course, is a thick disc-shaped object. The actual attachment of the number 20,000, though vague in true meaning, shows that a great number of flying vehicles are associated with the Elohiym, a fleet. The statement that Yhovah has chariots that are cloud-like is a direct key to the nature of the clouds associated with the Second Coming, literally thousands of flying vehicles.2 KingsSpinning Chariots Of Fire Take Elijah 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. Elijah and Elisha are talking and suddenly a bright, flying vehicle and a cavalry of bright, flying objects appear and Elijah ascends into the sky by a spinning-flying vehicle. The word translated into horses, 'cuwc', means rapid movement or flight. This cavalry of glowing vehicles is most likely the army spoken of where hosts appears.Horses and Chariots Of Fire6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha. 18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha. One or more flying objects descend to the ground and Elisha asks Yhovah to cause blindness to befall the surrounding army, which he does. The army is captured and later Yhovah restores their sight.PsalmsThousands Of Flying Vehicles68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place. 18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them. The vehicles of Elohiym number a myriad of thousands. Twenty = Myriad. See Rev. 5:11Clouds As Chariots104:3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind: Yhovah makes thick clouds his vehicles and travels on the edge of the wind.IsaiahThe Chariots Of God Spin And Glow66:5 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.JeremiahThe Chariots Of God Spin And Fly Swiftly4:13 Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.ZechariahFlying Vehicles From The Sky6:1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass. Zechariah looks up and sees four flying vehicles coming from between two copper colored mountains. DwellingsThere are 10 verses describing dwellings as vehiclesin the Bible Totally ignored by mainstream religion is the fact that the Bible does, indeed, give the actual residence of God. That residence is an object in the sky. Houses, habitations, pavilions, dwellings, and sanctuaries in the sky show that these flying vehicles are, at least, the temporary home for the Elohiym and the other beings of the realm. Deuteronomy Home In The Sky26:15 Look down from thy holy habitation, from heaven, and bless thy people Israel, and the land which thou hast given us, as thou swarest unto our fathers, a land that floweth with milk and honey. God's home is in the sky. 2 SamuelYhovah's Glowing, Solid, Flying House 22:12 And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies. 13 Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled. 14 The Lord thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice. 15 And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them. This appears to be a description of a circular fleet of objects arranged around a main object described as Yhovah’s pavilion or mobile dwelling. In front of this grouping appear brilliant, flashing lights and glowing objects. Yhovah tumbles out of the sky. Arrow-like objects and bright flashes cause great consternation to David’s enemies.
 

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So what you prove there is flying vehicles in the Bible ...We already knew thatyou prove their are Angels on them ......We already Knew thatYou prove God throne is carried on them.....We already knew thatYou prove God comes with chariots of some kind ........We already knew thatWhat you do not prove is that God needs a vehicle What you do not prove is that Satan an Angel may or may not come in themalso pretending to be christ (my opinion)So you have told us nothing we do not know and have gone against what Christ says IS how he will return So whats your point you will never convince us Christ is returning any other way then how he left
 

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So what you prove there is flying vehicles in the Bible ...We already knew thatyou prove their are Angels on them ......We already Knew thatYou prove God throne is carried on them.....We already knew thatYou prove God comes with chariots of some kind ........We already knew thatWhat you do not prove is that God needs a vehicle What you do not prove is that Satan an Angel may or may not come in themalso pretending to be christ (my opinion)So you have told us nothing we do not know and have gone against what Christ says IS how he will return So whats your point you will never convince us Christ is returning any other way then how he left
Didn't Satan come back on a WHITE horse (Revelation 6:1-9) Like Christ does? (Revelation 19:11-20)
 

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Sure does Jag the first white horse is Antichrist good point because the root word of chariot can mean a riding saddle
 

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So what you prove there is flying vehicles in the Bible ...We already knew thatyou prove their are Angels on them ......We already Knew thatYou prove God throne is carried on them.....We already knew thatYou prove God comes with chariots of some kind ........We already knew thatWhat you do not prove is that God needs a vehicle What you do not prove is that Satan an Angel may or may not come in themalso pretending to be christ (my opinion)So you have told us nothing we do not know and have gone against what Christ says IS how he will return So whats your point you will never convince us Christ is returning any other way then how he left
I dont have to disprove something that is NOT found in scripture. Like any speculation that the AC will do this. It flies in the face of all the other verses that you say are proven.And if we take the verse that say Messiah will return the way He came, and put them together with the WHOLE of scripture that describe His return with the Chariots that are LIKE a whirlwind?..........Checkmate.
 

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Sure does Jag the first white horse is Antichrist good point because the root word of chariot can mean a riding saddle
The ID of the rider of the white horse is not agreed upon by many and no chariots (or vehicles) are mentioned.Since the other riders are clearly figurative of famine disease etc, many interpret the rider on the white horse as figurative as well. Figurative of war in general.
 

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Wrong but then Im not surprised,you would not see it after all it might mess up your mans opinion and I never asked you disprove anything
 

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Kriss,Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. This has become a circular argument and you seem to be a little upset, so I'm going to leave off unless someone brings up something new on the topic at hand.Shalom.Daniel
 

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http://www.christianityboard.com/two-white...ht=white+horsesYour right we are going around in circles. This how the Lord returns.So if anyone comes in a vehicle that does not fit these scripture it is not the true Christ! Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;11 Which also said, 'Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, Which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven.'These 'two men' in 'white apparel' were no doubt angels. Angels have the 'image' of man, as that's the Image of our Father, as He created us in His Likeness, even man in the flesh. Verse 11 tells us that Jesus will return back to earth, 'in like manner' as He ascended into Heaven. It's very plain and simple. A first grader can understand it.So where was Jesus and His disciples when this event took place?Acts 1:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
 
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