1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

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The truth is GOD ACCEPTS US. Acts 10 tells us that those that fear him and works righteousness will be accepted by God. What if you “accept Jesus” but then don’t obey or don’t work righteousness? Will you then be accepted in return
To believe in Jesus, is receiving/accepting Him.
THAT IS the work of righteousness that we are to do!
John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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John 6[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
 

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IOWs, when a person believes, accepts/receives Christ, THEY HAVE OBEYED God the Father, through Jesus!!
You don't understand the simplicity of Christ!!
You want to complicate faith, so that you can parade around in "your own form of righteousness, which is of the Law".
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Now, go to KJV- Mat. 5:19-20, and please tell us all, how both the "least" and "great" are in the KoH/KoG
together.
 
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I believe in God's kindness (grace) through trust (faith). Yes, through trust is the way it all happens.

Remember the foolish Galatians? The apostle said: who has led you astray from the simplicity of trust? Let me ask you a question - did you receive the Holy Spirit through trust? Yes of course you did. So why then are you trying to perfect yourselves another way, by working? If you received the Holy Spirit through trust, then you need to continue in that trust.

I'm aware that's again a paraphrase. I've put it into my own words. But you can read the verse in Galatians.

Gal 5 spoke loud and clear to me many years ago. Will never forget the relief it brought me, as I was very troubled by something I had read that was NOT from a reputable man -Herbert Armstrong-Worldwide Church of God...it was an old book from the library because, we didn't have the internet then so, I just kept getting a bunch of God books from the library! I had no idea who this guy was and do not remember what I read that upset me so but...like a kid, (I WAS brand new to Jesus) I simply opened the bible and let my eyes land wherever-I was desperate to hear from God! and my eyes landed right smack dab onto Gal. 5:7-12 "7 You were running a good race.Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you.A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough in the Lord that you will take no other view.)" The one who is throwing you into confusion, whoever that may be, will have to pay the penalty. 11 Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 
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Gal 5 spoke loud and clear to me many years ago. Will never forget the relief it brought me, as I was very troubled by something I had read that was NOT from a reputable man -Herbert Armstrong-Worldwide Church of God...it was an old book from the library because, we didn't have the internet then so, I just kept getting a bunch of God books from the library! I had no idea who this guy was and do not remember what I read that upset me so but...like a kid, (I WAS brand new to Jesus) I simply opened the bible and let my eyes land wherever-I was desperate to hear from God! and my eyes landed right smack dab onto Gal. 5:7-12 "7 You were running a good race.Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you.A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough in the Lord that you will take no other view.)" The one who is throwing you into confusion, whoever that may be, will have to pay the penalty. 11 Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

I do understand this is talking about circumcision but, the same principle applies.
(that last line of Paul's always made me laugh :D )
 
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I do understand this is talking about circumcision but, the same principle applies.
(that last line of Paul's always made me laugh :D )

Its like I heard you say somewhere earlier, it seems its always about faith (trust)!
 
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A race of trust, That's what we are running. The world, our own flesh, and the devil try to trip us away from that simplicity of trust.
 
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And then too, we are always so busy trying to run the race for that other man over there...:rolleyes:
 
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No. But thankfully He trains our hands for war and we begin to win ground.

For sure! This gal needs to practice more often...must sharpen my sword (The Word) and NEVER take off the armor! Especially the Helmet of Salvation ♥
 

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Now you can illustrate how I am going to hell right now.
Plus i meant in hell right now, if anything, iow we are talking about two diff Hells, i am pretty sure yours does not exist, particularly in the original languages, and hell as you know it strickly the invention of your scribes, ok. Gehenna is after all a place herenow, on erets, and Tartarus is um more of a concept to me, a valid concept, don't get me wrong, but i hold a diff perception there too i guess.

Anyway i came back to say that one way you (all) might be in hell right now is generating Autism, channel-changers, from your homo Belief, tho i guess i am not meaning what you are reading, briefly, by homo i mean the singers of "When We All Get to Heaven," or even the belief that any one of you might go up to heaven after they have literally died, DMB, death more abundantly, all concepts your fellow believers who are used to me already know what i mean. Ok, so not briefly lol, sorry
 

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The battles NEVER cease!
HA! Scriptures to Remind You that God Has Already Won the Battle for You - BibleVerses.com
No. But thankfully He trains our hands for war and we begin to win ground.
you guys are so screwed lol, i would have to get rude to properly illustrate the issue i guess, it would be perceived as "cussing" or whatever here, but wadr and i really mean that your prophets have all so obviously gone a'whoring, and...arg, what does the one male dog do to the other male dog, ok. This is what dogs mean in Scripture, and what homos mean. Imo, i don't know, so pls consider it as a possibility, pls. And ty. And sorry.
 

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The battle is over, the fight is already won, and it is Hegelians that need enemies ok
A man's enemies will be those that his MSM and prophets have declared for him
 

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So when God came to Noah and told him to build an ark.....is that for us today too. It was all written down so we could read it?

Yes, that was written down for Christ's Church also...

1 Cor 10:10-12
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.


12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
KJV
 

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No I never said that. All I did was present what Mk 13 teaches. I am not a realized eschatologist I do not believe Jesus second coming was in AD 70. So far many have been labeling me as something and so far everyone has been wrong.


I present you a detailed study of those first verses in Mk and this is all I get? You ignore it. You are questioning my bible study abilities and this is all you provide.
Why dont you stick with Mk 13. That is the passage you first presented. Are you afraid to deal with the details I provided? We can then go to Mt 24 and Lk 21. They teach the same thing. This is bible study. You look at all jesus had to say on a subject.

I showed what the subject was that Jesus began with in His Olivet discourse per Matthew 24:3. Your argument was moot after I showed that Matthew 24 Scripture.
 

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The battle is over, the fight is already won, and it is Hegelians that need enemies ok
A man's enemies will be those that his MSM and prophets have declared for him
Maybe so Mark, but we still have to battle the flesh, Satan and the world. Unless, of course, one has already achieved perfection in this life...
 
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The battle is over, the fight is already won, and it is Hegelians that need enemies ok
A man's enemies will be those that his MSM and prophets have declared for him

The "war" has been won, and death was defeated but, we still have our personal battles. Why all the warnings in Ephesians about the Armor of God? Don't need armor unless in battle...
 
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Clarify. Provide an example of what? All I got is something about rampant stupidity from the apostles.
well that's a bit harsh I guess, poor choice of words, but yes they rep us in hearing imo, so they are meant to illustrate hypocrisies at times i think?

an example of a "12 Apostle" Apostle who heard correctly?
 
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