1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

Taken said:
Proclaim your own Standing, and thereafter an other will know your fate, by your own declaration.

hmm, you think?

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

leave the world

Nancy said:
Maybe so Mark, but we still have to battle the flesh, Satan and the world.

yes, I agree, you do

Unless, of course, one has already achieved perfection in this life...

hmm, "of course?" So then a few Quotes maybe, if you would
on the top 3concepts up there i mean

as to the bottom, imo it will become moot after we cross-examine the top, you lemme know. My theory there is leaving precludes fighting...and, ya, ere just is no substitute for walking out your front door broke and no spares, count the cost. prep for it and do it when you're 75 or something even. Do it for a weekend. Go one day out and one day back, then two, etc. but go
ha I made a little unexplained jump there i guess.
Bc i'm pushing ppl off a cliff

arg, but to respond to your point, understand why whores and publicans are beating you in see, they don't bother...washing the outside of the cup, they drink and cuss and spit, and be there for each other. So about "perfect" i don't know

Taken · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
hmm, you think?

Yes, and why it is so easy to disagree with CoreIssue.

Glory to God,
Taken

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

Taken said:
Yes, and why it is so easy to disagree with CoreIssue.

Glory to God,
Taken

oh, anyone making determinations can only be half right, sure

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
oh, anyone making determinations can only be half right, sure

which is wrong, as anyone making determinations about anything other than the present can only be half right i guess

which is wrong, bc...

this is how we rend each other, no...valid truth is real
iced

uh, oh, happy feet! My dog's invention

brb

ha you can clean house to that boy, i tell ya what

Taken · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
oh, anyone making determinations can only be half right, sure

I am speaking about an INDIVIDUAL making his OWN Declaration of Standing WITH thee Lord God.

How do you figure that is only half right?
Or are you talking about something else?

Glory to God,
Taken

Nancy · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
HA! Scriptures to Remind You that God Has Already Won the Battle for You - BibleVerses.com
you guys are so screwed lol, i would have to get rude to properly illustrate the issue i guess, it would be perceived as "cussing" or whatever here, but wadr and i really mean that your prophets have all so obviously gone a'whoring, and...arg, what does the one male dog do to the other male dog, ok. This is what dogs mean in Scripture, and what homos mean. Imo, i don't know, so pls consider it as a possibility, pls. And ty. And sorry.

So, what are you saying here Mark, that we do NOT have to fight our daily battles with the flesh, sin and Satan?? I do not see the War and the Battles as the same thing. What is it that has you so Grrrr about the armor of God?? Lol!

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

Taken said:
I am speaking about an INDIVIDUAL making his OWN Declaration of Standing WITH thee Lord God.

well "declaration" see i hear "profession" as in "verbal" and those amen just pretty much crap.
typed are but got amen somehow, o...k

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

Nancy said:
So, what are you saying here Mark, that we do NOT have to fight our daily battles with the flesh, sin and Satan?? I do not see the War and the Battles as the same thing. What is it that has you so Grrrr about the armor of God?? Lol!

i don't mean to imply that there is not a struggle, but it is strickly bc we struggle imo.

bbyrd009 · May 19, 2019

Nancy said:
So, what are you saying here Mark, that we do NOT have to fight our daily battles with the flesh, sin and Satan?? I do not see the War and the Battles as the same thing. What is it that has you so Grrrr about the armor of God?? Lol!

the armor of God is something to be put on number one, and makes a perfect contrast to the war is already won, Bc...Bc that hides wisdom from the wise i guess, and also strangely describes leaving the world, which doing literally will cause you to stop struggling, after several shots hopefully not directly to the head lol.
If you wanna start an Armore of God thread i can come ruin that for you guys
if you want

this thing is nuts that's not even a word?

CoreIssue · May 19, 2019

charity said:
'Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.'
(Matthew 28:19-20)

Hello @Nancy,

At the time that this commission was given to the eleven disciples, the door of the Kingdom was not opened to the gentiles. That did not happen until approx. ten years later (Acts 10). By then the twelve had preached in Jerusalem, then in Judaea, then in Samaria according to the instruction of the Lord in Acts 1:8.

'But ye shall receive power,
after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you:
and ye shall be witnesses unto Me
.. both in Jerusalem,
.... and in all Judaea,
...... and in Samaria,
........ and unto the uttermost part of the earth.'

* See also Luke 24:46-49:-

And said unto them,
"Thus it is written,
and thus it behoved Christ to suffer,
and to rise from the dead the third day:
And that repentance and remission of sins
should be preached in His name among all nations,
beginning at Jerusalem.
And ye are witnesses of these things.
And, behold,
I send the promise of My Father upon you:
but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem,
until ye be endued with power from on high".'

* The Jews dispersed among the nations were the object of this ministry of the twelve, whose purpose was to confirm the ministry of Christ, and to further His work.

Thank you, Nancy.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Trying to keep it simple.

The command to preach to all the world was given right before the crucifixion.

They were aware that they were supposed to preach to Jew and Gentile alike.

Contrary to what some say the transition from mosaic law to the church was instant at the resurrection.

The apostles understood it.

They sent out 60 disciples to assist in the work.

Prophecy said the gospel would be preach to the whole world before the rapture.

So it seems pretty clear from the resurrection on the mission was to preach to everyone.

Yes, Christ came for the Jews only. But he never told the apostles Jews only.

He did not turn them loose on the world until just before the crucifixion.

So I see this very clear mission of every Christian is to spread the gospel in what ever way is appropriate to their gift of the Holy Spirit and his guide.

A teacher in the classroom is spreading the gospel. A missionary spreads the gospel. A coworker at work spreads the gospel.

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
Define Gospel then, if you would ty

The good news of human redemption through Jesus Christ.

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

stunnedbygrace said:
I believe in God's kindness (grace) through trust (faith). Yes, through trust is the way it all happens.

Remember the foolish Galatians? The apostle said: who has led you astray from the simplicity of trust? Let me ask you a question - did you receive the Holy Spirit through trust? Yes of course you did. So why then are you trying to perfect yourselves another way, by working? If you received the Holy Spirit through trust, then you need to continue in that trust.

I'm aware that's again a paraphrase. I've put it into my own words. But you can read the verse in Galatians.

I receive the HS through the word.

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

Earburner said:
To believe in Jesus, is receiving/accepting Him.
THAT IS the work of righteousness that we are to do!
John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
.
John 6[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Ps 119:172 all thy commandments are righteousness.
Acts 17:30. Command all men everywhere to repent
Acts 10:13. Whosoever shall call in the name of the lord shall be saved.
Etc...
It takes more than belief to work righteousness

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

Davy said:
Yes, that was written down for Christ's Church also...

1 Cor 10:10-12
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
KJV

Yes Paul also said that what was written aforetime was written for our learning.
We are to learn from the account of Noah but what he told nosh is not for us. we are not expected to build an ark.

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

Davy said:
I showed what the subject was that Jesus began with in His Olivet discourse per Matthew 24:3. Your argument was moot after I showed that Matthew 24 Scripture.

Matthew 24:1-3 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
He is stating the same thing as in Mk 13. He’s prophesying the coming destruction of the Jerusalem and the temple. It is plain and clear. Only the spiritually blinded will not see it.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
They asked him the same question except in this account they added at the end about the end of the world. He then proceeds to answer there question. The first 30 or so verses are parallel to first 30 or so verses in Mk. It is the same message.
I can’t believe you have just skipped over Mk 13 like it don’t mattter.

CNKW3 · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
well that's a bit harsh I guess, poor choice of words, but yes they rep us in hearing imo, so they are meant to illustrate hypocrisies at times i think?

an example of a "12 Apostle" Apostle who heard correctly?

What is a “12 apostle”. I believe they were all guided into all truth.

Nancy · May 19, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
the armor of God is something to be put on number one, and makes a perfect contrast to the war is already won, Bc...Bc that hides wisdom from the wise i guess, and also strangely describes leaving the world, which doing literally will cause you to stop struggling, after several shots hopefully not directly to the head lol.
If you wanna start an Armore of God thread i can come ruin that for you guys
if you want

this thing is nuts that's not even a word?

I only say that the "war is already won meaning spiritually and in God's view. Not IRL.
Did ya get an Apple or a lemon

? (I-Pad)

Earburner · May 19, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Ps 119:172 all thy commandments are righteousness.
Acts 17:30. Command all men everywhere to repent
Acts 10:13. Whosoever shall call in the name of the lord shall be saved.
Etc...
It takes more than belief to work righteousness

Correct! But it's NOT about YOUR righteousness by the Law!!
It's about His Righteousness, as a Gift through the vehicle of His Holy Spirit.
.
That's why it's so important to understand Rom. 8:9.
Will you comment on that scripture?
Probably not! You haven't replied to my post about KJV- Mat. 5:19-20 either.

amadeus · May 19, 2019

Nancy said:
I only say that the "war is already won meaning spiritually and in God's view. Not IRL.
Did ya get an Apple or a lemon ? (I-Pad)

Is the war within each person won already? I would say, NOT. Some will say they have already won, but some have not yet begun to fight and some only just begun. While there is time there is war, and for whom among us is there no more time? My parents have completed their fight and are gone, but I still fight battles, perhaps daily. Why does Paul write, I die daily, if the flesh and the ways of the flesh are already finally and completely dead for anyone who is NOT already an overcomer like Jesus? When is this verse true for any one person?

"And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:" Rev 10:6

Is it not for each one when his/her allotted time in finished without regard to any possible end of mankind as a whole?

1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

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