1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

Nancy · May 20, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
hmm. Walk out that door, no cash or spares, goto another town, stay in one house, and eat what they feed you imo, and you are either going to get hip or die, starve to death prolly. Now are you going to struggle along the way? As in 'try to drive, keep tryna drive, keep tryna lead, preach, profess, testify, lecture?' Maybe not, maybe you are not codependent like me, maybe you are smarter than me, I wouldn't doubt it. IRL is where the war is already won, as above, so below, even you have yet to sweat any blood in your struggle ends up meaning more like a tongue-in-cheek kind of interp, in the context of our washing the outside of the cup, wherein we rend each other for "sins" that are not sins at all! Go and marry a whore already lol, and unclench on the appearance of sin imo. Do what you want and reap what you sow, and then stop sinning if some action causes harm, that's great imo. But to like stop smoking, or some other "bad" thing, bc of how other ppl perceive it? Suicide, imo

I tell you that I still smoke cigarettes even though I don't really even want to any more, I smoke 5 or 6 a day, always go outside, keep some h2o2 handy to eliminate the smell, mostly to detect hypocrites sneaking into my Church! stupid, granted
ah, it's an older ipad with no hours that sat in a closet for ten years, generally acts ok I guess, but does get weird. "isn't" instead of "is" a lot, autocorrects when you don't want but also prints words that are not words, just weird to me. Really an awesome device though I guess, i'm just too old to be (complaining about free amazing electronics) lol

Ha! I have a spare laptop and I cannot get into it because my friend who has dementia somehow remembered how to change the windows password, and now she does not remember what it was!!!!!!!! So, it has become useless unless I bring it to the geek squad and they charge me an arm and a leg! Arggh!
Quit smoking...it is going on 9 years now, for me and am happy as can be

CNKW3 · May 20, 2019

VictoryinJesus said:
Are you saying the Spirit does not help our infirmities; making intercession for each of the members of His body according to the will of God? Romans 8:26-28 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. [27] And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. [28] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

If he does, i don’t know how he does it. I don’t know that he helps me beyond giving me comfort through the promises and instruction given in his word. God knows what we need before we ever even ask. God knows what we’re thinking so why would the Spirit need to take this info to the father. The father already knows what in our hearts and minds. I believe vs 27 is speaking of Christ making intercession. Look at vs 34 as well. I have more explanation about vs 26 but we’ll stop here.

CNKW3 · May 20, 2019

stunnedbygrace said:
The word was made flesh.

The word was made flesh and while in the flesh he said
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
You must receive his words (plural) because it is by them you will be judged in the end.

Nancy · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
The word was made flesh and while in the flesh he said
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
You must receive his words (plural) because it is by them you will be judged in the end.

So CNKW, if a group of American missionaries were sent to Zimbabwe and none could speak the language but they were there to give the Gospel...do you think God would not allow the HS to manifest there? To give them the language these people would understand? I personally, have not had ANY kind of Spirit manifestation happen to me or anybody I know but, I do not think there is not a time and place for them. I cannot say yet I also cannot put God in a box and say, oh well, they don't understand English so, I guess they won't hear the Gospel! La-Di-Da...let's move on, their kindling for Hellfire. Maybe this next village will speak English....

CNKW3 · May 20, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
but again wadr that is so subjective as to be useless?

Let’s examine this. You say that me being able to literally point to passages in the word of God as to the reason I do x or y as subjective? But you and others can go around claiming direct operation from the HS unable to prove anything since you ave no power and that is not subjective so as to be useless? That’s funny. Jesse duplantis says God specifically told him to go buy a 50 million dollar jet and we are to believe him just because he says so? Thats completely subjective and useless. ANYBODY can claim ANYTHING from the Spirit. But nobody can prove anything. It is completely subjective. My claim is completely objective cause I can point to the word of God and prove it? Why did I do this? Here it is. Why do I do that! Here it is. Book chapter and verses. Try it.

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Yes Paul was an apostle.

so then why cant you be?

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Let’s examine this. You say that me being able to literally point to passages in the word of God as to the reason I do x or y as subjective?

hmm. no, bc That is not Word, and you cannot make It be unless you want to be deceived, which idc ok but it helps to make the point.

Anyway, imo it is not the literally pointing to passages in Writings that is subjective imo, it is the interps we say onto them?

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
But you and others can go around claiming direct operation from the HS unable to prove anything since you ave no power and that is not subjective so as to be useless? That’s funny.

oh, if I inferred or claimed direct operation from the Spirit in some manner pls point it out, and i'll confess and rebound ok

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Jesse duplantis says God specifically told him to go buy a 50 million dollar jet and we are to believe him just because he says so? Thats completely subjective and useless. ANYBODY can claim ANYTHING from the Spirit. But nobody can prove anything. It is completely subjective.

amen

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
My claim is completely objective cause I can point to the word of God and prove it? Why did I do this? Here it is. Why do I do that! Here it is. Book chapter and verses. Try it.

not sure i'm getting you here, try Quoting "Bible = Word" though imo, and if i'm misunderstanding here pls say, was the first sentence meant to be a quote of some type? ty

I kind of lost the correct tense somewhere in there maybe

VictoryinJesus · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
If he does, i don’t know how he does it. I don’t know that he helps me beyond giving me comfort through the promises and instruction given in his word. God knows what we need before we ever even ask. God knows what we’re thinking so why would the Spirit need to take this info to the father. The father already knows what in our hearts and minds. I believe vs 27 is speaking of Christ making intercession. Look at vs 34 as well. I have more explanation about vs 26 but we’ll stop here.

You mentioned in an earlier post God is an all-consuming Fire. We are to be tried by Fire...every thing of the dark brought out into the Light. what makes it through fire? The flesh perishes ...what doesn’t perish? It is a great gift God has given in that a man’s life which was once pointless and vain and perished with no profit... Born of the Spirit, that same man has been given something that doesn’t perish which is Life. If Life is not in you ...then you will perish and be without hope.

Numbers 14:24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

“...because he had another spirit with him” ... “...and his seed will possess it.”

There is the spirit of the anti-christ already at work in the world...another Jesus which we are told to not receive.
1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

But you say No...we have not received the spirit which is of God. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

When you preach flesh as intelligent enough to comprehend and apply the word apart from the inner workings and teaching and correction of the Holy Spirit within the new born child of God ...it is no different as you said of Joyce Meyer. You said she has no Holy Spirit but is working of the flesh...yet you claim the same thing in it is not the Holy Spirit but you who discerns and applies and reasons apart from any gift given of God.

Addressing also your comment on pure religion is to visit the widows. You said widows is “self-explanatory”. Romans 7:3-4 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. [4] Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

“...that we should bring forth fruit unto God.” Fruit of the Spirit by Life within.

Pure religion of visiting the true widow may be self-explanatory to flesh...but God gives a different definition.
Romans 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

John 12:24-25
[24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. [25] He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

“...it abideth alone.” Children born from above do not abide alone.

CoreIssue · May 20, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
sigh, so please Quote this if you would, ty, bc no they did not either ok, no offense meant

Sorry, 70

Who were the 70 (or 72) disciples in Luke 10?

Davy · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Yes Paul also said that what was written aforetime was written for our learning.
We are to learn from the account of Noah but what he told nosh is not for us. we are not expected to build an ark.

We aren't to expect a Messiah to come and fulfill Psalms 22 anymore either, yet it's still written for our learning, and even to show orthodox unbelieving Jews that God gave David to prophesy of Christ's crucifixion about a thousand years before it actually happened.

So it's like Apostle Paul said to Timothy, all Scripture is written for the Church...

2 Tim 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV

Davy · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Matthew 24:1-3 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
He is stating the same thing as in Mk 13. He’s prophesying the coming destruction of the Jerusalem and the temple. It is plain and clear. Only the spiritually blinded will not see it.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
They asked him the same question except in this account they added at the end about the end of the world. He then proceeds to answer there question. The first 30 or so verses are parallel to first 30 or so verses in Mk. It is the same message.
I can’t believe you have just skipped over Mk 13 like it don’t mattter.

There's still huge stones... standing at today's temple mount area. They call them the Wailing Wall.

And right there in black and white is the timing of events Jesus was talking about, with, "what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end of the world?"

But you said that wasn't about the event of Christ's 2nd coming, showing you're just pushing a doctrine of men.

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

stunnedbygrace said:
does not therefore mean that to believe and to have faith are different things.

well they are, sorry; they just happen to share a synonym I guess. You believed in santa claus, right; but you were never called to do anything that required faith in santa claus imo

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

Nancy said:
Ha! I have a spare laptop and I cannot get into it because my friend who has dementia somehow remembered how to change the windows password, and now she does not remember what it was!!!!!!!! So, it has become useless unless I bring it to the geek squad and they charge me an arm and a leg! Arggh!
Quit smoking...it is going on 9 years now, for me and am happy as can be

turn on your laptop and press f10 I think it is--ask google--to open in "safe" mode, from the bios. Google can walk you through it

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Try it.

try what?

bbyrd009 · May 20, 2019

CoreIssue said:
Sorry, 70

Who were the 70 (or 72) disciples in Luke 10?

ok, ty

Nancy · May 20, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
turn on your laptop and press f10 I think it is--ask google--to open in "safe" mode, from the bios. Google can walk you through it

Did try the f8 tapping...nothing. Also had a guy look at it. Said he would fix it if I would buy some disc. I took it back home

I will try the F10 thing...tanx

Nancy · May 20, 2019

Davy said:
There's still huge stones... standing at today's temple mount area. They call them the Wailing Wall.

And right there in black and white is the timing of events Jesus was talking about, with, "what shall be the sign of Thy coming, and of the end of the world?"

But you said that wasn't about the event of Christ's 2nd coming, showing you're just pushing a doctrine of men.

The stones of The Wailing Wall were never a part of the Temple:
"The Western Wall was never part of the Temple Mount, where the ancient holy places of worship for Jews stood. It is believed to be a remnant of the retaining wall that supported the esplanade built by King Herod in the first century B.C.E., holding up his reconstruction of the Second Temple."
Israel's Western Wall crisis: Why Jews are fighting with each other over the Jewish holy site, explained

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