What Do You Learn from Debate?

tzcho2 said:

You are not a prophet , but quite full of yourself, and you don't speak for God. Jesus warned about this phenomena in the last days. You actually sound more like one of the new age gurus.

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Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and now has sent another Helper, the Holy Spirit, by whom I have life and speak. This is my testimony.

You on the other hand are an accuser, speaking against the promised works of the Holy Spirit, claiming to be knowledgeable enough to be my judge, and you play with fire.

CoreIssue said:

Because he thinks he is a prophet. He has said so.

So when he speaks he is the Bible.

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Exactly! he has declared himself his own Pope
Compare these types with the disciples, not even the Apostles whom Jesus called personally, named themselves prophets.. This type of spiritual deception is nothing new, it proliferates the New Age community. It can be recognized it as the same lying spirits that are trying to run that same game in the Christian community to attack God's Word as the ultimate Godly authority. The ultimate plan is to lead people away from salvation and the true gospel. If they can convince people that God is still "writing new scripture" they will point to "new" and "higher , "meat" teachings . As in that old bible is just for the ignorant babes..... Satan has many ways to tempt people away from God & His word.

CoreIssue said:

I look forward to the promises of Christ coming to fruition.

But you are not the source of that truth and fruition.

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Indeed, I am not the Source. You have the wrong idea.

CoreIssue said:

Because he thinks he is a prophet. He has said so.

So when he speaks he is the Bible.

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The church needs prophets more than anything besides the direct presence of God. Now, no single prophet is meant to speak all truth. That is why it must be 2 or 3. A single prophet knows the truth but can be lacking in perspective. But when the prophets agree...then that is taken as the truth. On the witness of 2 or 3.

That is the biblical way to meet as the church. But you don't do as the bible says to do...do you? Have you ever been to a real church meeting like Paul describes...or just sunday morning indoctrinations? No prophets? No meeting in the Lord!

1 Cor. 14: What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.
Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.


"When YOU come together"? Who's the "you"? Certainly not religious posers....but real followers of Jesus Christ who are led by the Spirit.

I find that they who push the bible the most do not take the bible seriously...just like the ones who push grace the most have the least understanding of it.

Oh, the humanity!

ScottA said:

Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and now has sent another Helper, the Holy Spirit, by whom I have life and speak. This is my testimony.

You on the other hand are an accuser, speaking against the promised works of the Holy Spirit, claiming to be knowledgeable enough to be my judge, and you play with fire.

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The old do not touch my anointed Pentecostal argument.

You make a lot of claims and never post a verse to back one. Because you cannot.

You are not a prophet.

Marymog said:

Thank you Scott.

I knew about women keeping silent in the Church however you said the "we" (people in general) are to be silent in the Church. That was confusing to me when you used the word "we" in a general statement about keeping silent. So 1 Corinthians 14:34 has NOTHING to do with "we" keeping silent in the church. It just means that women are not allowed to preach in Church.

1 Corinthians 14:28 talks about keeping silent if there is no one to interpret what the person said. The next verse says Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to someone else sitting nearby, let the first person be silent.

So even that verse doesn't really say that we or anyone is to "keep silent in church". It allows for weighing in, letting prophets speak and instructs the first person to be silent while the other speaks.

Thank you for your time.

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You are interpreting "women" to be "women", which is like interpreting "lamb" [of God] to be "lamb" and not "Son."

If this is your interpretation...then do it.

ScottA said:

Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, and now has sent another Helper, the Holy Spirit, by whom I have life and speak. This is my testimony.

You on the other hand are an accuser, speaking against the promised works of the Holy Spirit, claiming to be knowledgeable enough to be my judge, and you play with fire.

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We should stick with scripture and with what the Lord Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets and false teachers.
Matt 24: 4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.…"

tzcho2 said:

We should stick with scripture and with what the Lord Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets and false teachers.
Matt 24: 4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.…"

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That's not truth...that's you with whatever spirit that is causing your accusations ...USING the bible as a weapon against a brother.

But when I post an actual bible direction that nobody can mistake it's meaning for...you ignore that. You are only looking for verses that confirm your presumed place or denigrate anyone else who doesn't join in the attacks on the brethren.

So you are fully exposed here.

ScottA said:

Indeed, I am not the Source. You have the wrong idea.

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But you have claimed to be a prophet

Episkopos said:

The church needs prophets more than anything besides the direct presence of God. Now, no single prophet is meant to speak all truth. That is why it must be 2 or 3. A single prophet knows the truth but can be lacking in perspective. But when the prophets agree...then that is taken as the truth. On the witness of 2 or 3.

That is the biblical way to meet as the church. But you don't do as the bible says to do...do you? Have you ever been to a real church meeting like Paul describes...or just sunday morning indoctrinations? No prophets? No meeting in the Lord!

1 Cor. 14: What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.
Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.


"When YOU come together"? Who's the "you"? Certainly not religious posers....but real followers of Jesus Christ who are led by the Spirit.

I find that they who push the bible the most do not take the bible seriously...just like the ones who push grace the most have the least understanding of it.

Oh, the humanity!

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Says the false prophet who calls the Bible a paper god.

You convict yourself.

Episkopos said:

That's not truth...that's you with whatever spirit that is causing your accusations ...USING the bible as a weapon against a brother.

But when I post an actual bible direction that nobody can mistake it's meaning for...you ignore that. You are only looking for verse that confirm your presumed place or denigrate anyone else who doesn't join in the attacks on the brethren.

So you are fully exposed here.

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But you never back your claim with a verse.You claim things the Bible never says.

CoreIssue said:

Says the false prophet who calls the Bible a paper god.

You convict yourself.

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Look at your own attitude. You have just ignored a bible verse that shows that you are speaking twaddle in order to attack the person who posted it. You ignore the truth and accuse brothers who speak the word...from the bible you worship...but falsely. You have no respect for either God nor His word. So you are fully exposed as well.

I don't understand, logically, how you can think doing what you do is right in God's eyes.

CoreIssue said:

But you never back your claim with a verse.You claim things the Bible never says.

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You can lie...but anyone who can read can see that I post more verses than you do...

So how do you respond to this from the bible?

1 Cor. 14: What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.
Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.

An honest person would answer...but that's not you is it?

taken in?

Taken said:

To be honest those are your words, not Scotts.

And I wouldn't listen to your translation either.

But then that IS your translation, and not Scriptural Translation.

Matt 13
13] Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Hint; It is always a fail (and cheap shot) when one in disagreement with an other attempts to speak FOR THEM.

Glory to God,
Taken

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Are you claiming he did not say the Bible is a paper god?

tzcho2 said:

taken in?

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An evil and divisive mind is not of Christ. So who has been taken in? And by whom?

CoreIssue said:

Are you claiming he did not say the Bible is a paper god?

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Actually YOU have a paper god...that you don't even respect. Your opinions are your guide.

The bible is the words FROM God...that I conform my life to...but you ignore.

Twice I posted the biblical way to meet as proscribed in 1 Cor. But you ignore the bible because your opinion is what you follow.

I am not surprised. I expected it given your character. You enjoy hatching plans...not submitting to God's words. Admit it to yourself at least.

It's just one more confirmation...among dozens.