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In our understanding of what the MoB shall be, we must break away from the "comic book" views that promote a literal, numeric version of "666" being tattooed on our right hand and/or on our forehead.
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Not only that, we must not fabricate other meanings for the MoB, so as to pit Christians against Christians, calling all denominations to be apostate, except one.
If the MoB shall do anything, on the level described in Rev. 13, it will "separate the sheep from the goats", through personal decisions based on the need for food, clothing and housing.
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So the question remains, what will be the catalyst, the "trigger" that sets all of it in motion?
Ans. A natural or man made cataclysmic event, that effects everyone, everywhere!
.
Many are not aware, that for such a global infrastructure, for monitoring and managing the global populace, a system to do so must be in place, well in advance for the desired outcome.
Question: what is "digitized money"?
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I urge you all to do some serious research on the following topics:
1. The future of Robotics and it's ramifications on employment.
2. Artificial Intelligence (AI)
3. 5G Technology
4. Universal Basic Income
.
If you have a credit/debit account, as most all people do, you do know that we all are on that road for choosing whether or not we shall take the MoB.

2B cont'd- How 1 Kings 10:14 literally describes how the MoB will be implemented in the world.
 

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I haven’t researched “Universal Basic Income.” Do like what you shared of Solomon never made the connection before. But to be honest “universal basic income” is not where I thought you were going with it. The thread touches on the gold, the Jewels, and adornments outwardly in what can be corrupted. Could it be said Jesus Christ did the same as Solomon only instead of increase for worldly favour and goods for vanity; instead His increase was to give Hope of freedom from vanity. His (God’s)increase was and is always for another. As the verse on correction from our earthly father, God’s correction is “For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.”

To increase gold and precious jewels and inward adornments (the incorruptible where men can not break in and steal), to increase that which is the everlasting name of the Lord. To increase another’s wealth. Solomon as what you showed above the nature of man’s heart without God. Then there is the nature of God which is such a contradiction to that sinful nature of man without being born of God. Where I thought you were going with the number of the beast is to the image in Daniel...which was to receive the Lord but instead through that body prepared of God Jesus Christ crucified... cutting out of and setting apart the New Man created in Christ. Do you see two men...one the Son of prediction in Daniel and the Antichrist with the brightness of its head that the Lord showed God could very well bring down the great pride of as displayed in
Nebuchadnezzar? This great man in Daniel which shows all the kingdoms of man throughout time having the world set in his heart. Is this not the “another Jesus” the “another spirit” which seeks after the world? As Solomon increased in gold and women and chariots and wealth ...but all coming to Nothing ...all made vanity and void and unprofitable.

God said all created anew in the fullness, the stature of the New man created in Christ have been given a new heart ...the heart of stone tablet removed and the Laws written in a heart of flesh. This New Man; the Son of peace is He who God says come REST at His feet, feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace. Come Rest in the Peace of God and let the Peace of God rule the heart.

one Man with the same mind (pride)and spirit (mammon the root of all evil, corruption)which are many members: Romans 3:15-17
[15] Their feet are swift to shed blood: [16] Destruction and misery are in their ways: [17] And the way of peace have they not known: —Matthew 6:24
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

A new man created in Christ the Lord.
Isaiah 52:6-7 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. [7] How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth.


I guess the point being doesn’t all this “Antichrist” the another Jesus, the another spirit masquerading as light, the beast, the false prophets and false teachers all encompass so much more than one denomination or one way but speaks mostly of the way that leads to death?
Victory,
I strongly urge you to stay focused on Rev. 13:18 and 1 Kings 1:14, and to not drift off into the many denominational teachings that are out there.
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When I have completed my comments on the MoB, you will be amazed and shocked of how simple and non-religious it will all be!
I repeat- NON-religious!
 

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In our understanding of what the MoB shall be, we must break away from the "comic book" views that promote a literal, numeric version of "666" being tattooed on our right hand and/or on our forehead.
.
Not only that, we must not fabricate other meanings for the MoB, so as to pit Christians against Christians, calling all denominations to be apostate, except one.
If the MoB shall do anything, on the level described in Rev. 13, it will "separate the sheep from the goats", through personal decisions based on the need for food, clothing and housing.
.
So the question remains, what will be the catalyst, the "trigger" that sets all of it in motion?
Ans. A natural or man made cataclysmic event, that effects everyone, everywhere!
.
Many are not aware, that for such a global infrastructure, for monitoring and managing the global populace, a system to do so must be in place, well in advance for the desired outcome.
Question: what is "digitized money"?
.
I urge you all to do some serious research on the following topics:
1. The future of Robotics and it's ramifications on employment.
2. Artificial Intelligence (AI)
3. 5G Technology
4. Universal Basic Income
.
If you have a credit/debit account, as most all people do, you do know that we all are on that road for choosing whether or not we shall take the MoB.

2B cont'd- How 1 Kings 10:14 literally describes how the MoB will be implemented in the world.
Some places are doing the microchip inserted under the skin and using it to pay for merchandise, clock in and out of work, as access to secure storage...etc.
 

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Some places are doing the microchip inserted under the skin and using it to pay for merchandise, clock in and out of work, as access to secure storage...etc.
Yes, I Agee! The prototypes, experiments, and numerous nations are now running UBI pilot programs, to gather research data, for how to proceed on a global scale.
 

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Yes, I Agee! The prototypes, experiments, and numerous nations are now running UBI pilot programs, to gather research data, for how to proceed on a global scale.
The technology that has me really thinking is facial recognition. China has it running in full force. They can pull your whole life up unaware to you just by your face. Walking down a street would be very hazardous to a person who has alot to hide. Lol.
 

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Victory,
I strongly urge you to stay focused on Rev. 13:18 and 1 Kings 1:14, and to not drift off into the many denominational teachings that are out there.
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When I have completed my comments on the MoB, you will be amazed and shocked of how simple and non-religious it will all be!
I repeat- NON-religious!

That's because Antichrist and the Ten Kings hate ALL religions (false religions or the true worship of God). Antichrist and the Satanic Kings will want no rivals to the worship of the "Beast" and Satan himself. They will destroy the Whore of Babylon (in my opinion, "she" represents all false religions that will come under the umbrella of the RCC). The Revelation tells us that after they use "her" to convince Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc. to acquiesce to the One World government, they will destroy "her". The huge numbers represented by all the religions of the world could really muck up the works if they decide that the One World government is evil--and it will be utterly evil.
 
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The technology that has me really thinking is facial recognition. China has it running in full force. They can pull your whole life up unaware to you just by your face. Walking down a street would be very hazardous to a person who has alot to hide. Lol.

At first, that is how it will be sold--as a way to catch criminals. Eventually, it will be used to hunt down those who convert to Christ after the Rapture of the Church.
 
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In our understanding of what the MoB shall be, we must break away from the "comic book" views that promote a literal, numeric version of "666" being tattooed on our right hand and/or on our forehead.
.
Not only that, we must not fabricate other meanings for the MoB, so as to pit Christians against Christians, calling all denominations to be apostate, except one.
If the MoB shall do anything, on the level described in Rev. 13, it will "separate the sheep from the goats", through personal decisions based on the need for food, clothing and housing.
.
So the question remains, what will be the catalyst, the "trigger" that sets all of it in motion?
Ans. A natural or man made cataclysmic event, that effects everyone, everywhere!
.
Many are not aware, that for such a global infrastructure, for monitoring and managing the global populace, a system to do so must be in place, well in advance for the desired outcome.
Question: what is "digitized money"?
.
I urge you all to do some serious research on the following topics:
1. The future of Robotics and it's ramifications on employment.
2. Artificial Intelligence (AI)
3. 5G Technology
4. Universal Basic Income
.
If you have a credit/debit account, as most all people do, you do know that we all are on that road for choosing whether or not we shall take the MoB.

2B cont'd- How 1 Kings 10:14 literally describes how the MoB will be implemented in the world.
MoB cont'd.

How 1 Kings 10:14 literally describes how the MoB will be implemented in the world.

First and foremost, one must come to an understanding of what " Universal Basic Income" (UBI) is. The concept of UBI is not new, and has been around for quite some time. To be simple and to the point, UBI is an allotment of digitized money, being FREELY GIVEN, straight from each respective government, in the currency of that nation.
The amount allotted, can range from $500-1000 per month, to every person in the world, whether rich or poor, free or bond. Sound familiar? It should!!
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No one will be obligated to work for it or pay it back!!
The concept is to mitigate or eliminate poverty, with the inspiration that most people will see it as an opportunity to enhance their education and/or become more involved in their local communities, etc. Also, all will have additional money to spend on whatever they want, of which shall go back into economy, helping to keep that "engine" moving. Money, cash, gold is the "blood" for all the economies of the world.
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As it stands now, at least in the US, millions are on welfare programs and other free federal assistance.
The expense to operate and maintain these programs is enormous. With the aid of "AI" computers, millions of people can be the recipients of FREE MONEY (gold), at little expense to the government for processing.
.
In 1 Kings 10:14, Solomon was FREELY GIVEN, IN ONE YEAR, six hundred, threescore and six talents of GOLD by the Queen of Sheba.
Solomon was receiving allotments of gold, regularly for one year!
.
Today, what is gold to each of us?
Ans. Money!
Do you now understand how 1 Kings 10:14 is applicable to what they are attempting to do for a Global Economy?
.
Is their a catch to UBI? Yes.
It's called Temptation!

2B cont'd.
MoB and the Temptation.
 

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The technology that has me really thinking is facial recognition. China has it running in full force. They can pull your whole life up unaware to you just by your face. Walking down a street would be very hazardous to a person who has alot to hide. Lol.
Yes, that is all part of it.
How about this- sending for your "DNA Kit" , where you send back to that company all your info WITH your DNA. They even openly admit that your DNA can be shared, discreetly of course!
 

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Yes, that is all part of it.
How about this- sending for your "DNA Kit" , where you send back to that company all your info WITH your DNA. They even openly admit that your DNA can be shared, discreetly of course!

Yes--they will undoubtedly be using it for some purpose. Just like the seed vaults. What are they preparing?
 

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Yes, that is all part of it.
How about this- sending for your "DNA Kit" , where you send back to that company all your info WITH your DNA. They even openly admit that your DNA can be shared, discreetly of course!
I know...the Bible teaches that in the last "days" knowledge will increase and far surpass the days of Babylon....so I wonder sometimes if knowledge could be the catapult of the rise of the anti-christ spirit...which has already been around for years...but with the pace of how we are evolving in science and technology we are quickly becoming our own nemesis. They already have people that are going to move to Mars and inhabit it to keep the human race alive in the event of the destruction of earth. This is what I call trying to "outsmart" God. Anyway, we can clone living beings, travel through the universe and study other galaxies, there is even new technology that can "scan" the body and diagnose the illness without drawing a single drop of blood. (Star Trek would be proud...Dr. McCoy would be idolized).
 

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I know...the Bible teaches that in the last "days" knowledge will increase and far surpass the days of Babylon....so I wonder sometimes if knowledge could be the catapult of the rise of the anti-christ spirit...which has already been around for years...but with the pace of how we are evolving in science and technology we are quickly becoming our own nemesis. They already have people that are going to move to Mars and inhabit it to keep the human race alive in the event of the destruction of earth. This is what I call trying to "outsmart" God. Anyway, we can clone living beings, travel through the universe and study other galaxies, there is even new technology that can "scan" the body and diagnose the illness without drawing a single drop of blood. (Star Trek would be proud...Dr. McCoy would be idolized).


The thing is, the joke will be on those seeking Satan's version of immortality. We are rapidly headed toward a point of no return because of genetic entropy. God does not intend for sinful mortal man to live in a sinful world forever. The scientists are wasting their time. Geneticist, John Sanford explains why their efforts will ultimately be futile in his book, Genetic Entropy: The Mystery of the Genome. He says that the human genome is so incredibly complex that he doubts whether it will ever be completely understood--but certainly not in enough time to head off the genetic disasters that are occurring in all species--both plant and animal. The gene tinkerers have discovered, to their dismay, that changing one faulty gene can cause disruptions in other genes and their experiments have mostly been failures--except for one or two which appear to have been "successful". During the Millennial Age, God will undoubtedly renew the genomes of life. He said through the prophet Isaiah, "In the future, my people will live as long as trees" in a section that describes the Millennial Kingdom (chapters 65 and 66).
 
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Yes--they will undoubtedly be using it for some purpose. Just like the seed vaults. What are they preparing?
As I did say, there will be a cataclysmic event, either natural or man made. Their goal is, there will be a one world global government, one way or another, whose maker and builder is the Illuminati through the UN. It is their idea of "The Millennium" on earth.
.
We are on the verge of witnessing the four angels bound in the Euphrates being loosed, whose purpose is to kill off 1/3 of men in an hour, a day, a month and a year. Which is to say, on a specific date, 33% of the world pop. will be toast!
Rev. 9:15
What condition will the world be in then??
Ans. Deplorable and ripe, to receive the MoB!!
It will be the only way, according to them, to keep it together. Remember: "Save The Earth!!" LoL!
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So, if some Christians believe that there is going to be a Millennium to take place on earth, then they might as well know now that Jesus won't be in it. Read your Bible! When Jesus returns, he is coming in flaming fire!
 

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Victory,
I strongly urge you to stay focused on Rev. 13:18 and 1 Kings 1:14, and to not drift off into the many denominational teachings that are out there.
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When I have completed my comments on the MoB, you will be amazed and shocked of how simple and non-religious it will all be!
I repeat- NON-religious!

Thank you for the response. Been reading along regarding MoB. You could be right but I’m not prepared to go there. Could be speculation on how it could happen ...as has been attempted all throughout history. Could be truth. I’ve did that a lot in my life and wasted time and energy imagining outside of His word when that wasn't even close to how God planned for it to work out. I used to watch this pastor who had a real gift but then he would go off on computers and conspiracy’s of what was going to happen to this world in the end and how it would all come about. He is no longer here. Maybe he was right. Again not trying to be ugly and not saying you are wrong only that I might not even be alive during MoB. There is so much mentioned of the Pharisees and there pride and vanity standing in the marketplace with control. They hated everything He stood for because He could cost them control and He threatened their ways of doing things. Today, going against everything this world says is the way to be in going hard after everything you want, being strong willed and focused on yourself... going against what this world values the most costs persecution and exile already. That is for certain in today. And it is enough. MoB we only have what God tells us and countless theories.
 
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MoB cont'd.

How 1 Kings 10:14 literally describes how the MoB will be implemented in the world.

First and foremost, one must come to an understanding of what " Universal Basic Income" (UBI) is. The concept of UBI is not new, and has been around for quite some time. To be simple and to the point, UBI is an allotment of digitized money, being FREELY GIVEN, straight from each respective government, in the currency of that nation.
The amount allotted, can range from $500-1000 per month, to every person in the world, whether rich or poor, free or bond. Sound familiar? It should!!
.
No one will be obligated to work for it or pay it back!!
The concept is to mitigate or eliminate poverty, with the inspiration that most people will see it as an opportunity to enhance their education and/or become more involved in their local communities, etc. Also, all will have additional money to spend on whatever they want, of which shall go back into economy, helping to keep that "engine" moving. Money, cash, gold is the "blood" for all the economies of the world.
.
As it stands now, at least in the US, millions are on welfare programs and other free federal assistance.
The expense to operate and maintain these programs is enormous. With the aid of "AI" computers, millions of people can be the recipients of FREE MONEY (gold), at little expense to the government for processing.
.
In 1 Kings 10:14, Solomon was FREELY GIVEN, IN ONE YEAR, six hundred, threescore and six talents of GOLD by the Queen of Sheba.
Solomon was receiving allotments of gold, regularly for one year!
.
Today, what is gold to each of us?
Ans. Money!
Do you now understand how 1 Kings 10:14 is applicable to what they are attempting to do for a Global Economy?
.
Is their a catch to UBI? Yes.
It's called Temptation!

2B cont'd.
MoB and the Temptation.
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MoB and the Temptation

After coming to the understanding that an allotment of FREE money (gold) is going to be the MoB, as revealed in the comparison of Rev. 13:18 and
1 Kings 10:14, the process of how it shall be implemented is called "Universal Basic Income".
.
Each and everyone of us are now required to have some form of a personal bank account.
Today, "cash" is becoming almost obsolete. There are more and more people with credit/debit cards in their wallets, than cash. We are now at the point of being able to buy and sell everything on that basis.
.
Even churches are open to the use of credit/debit cards. I must admit, that I have showed up in church and placing nothing in the "offering", because of having no cash, but plenty in my bank account.
.
The MoB is not going to be a "hunt you down" strategy. Nope! Not in the least bit!
The concept of UBI will be one of a shrewd and subtle temptation, whereby you will comply with it willingly, and for your own purposes. No one will be holding a we-apon to your head.
.
For whatever cataclysmic event that shall happen in the world, eventually UBI will be implemented on a global scale, whereby the government of each nation will freely deposit electronically, a prescribed financial allotment into EVERY one of its citizens bank account.
.
So what's the catch?
That FREE money (gold) will be listed as a deposit of let's say- $1000.00. In your account also, is the money (gold) that you personally earned.
So, if $ 2400.00 was already there of your earned money, and then the government's FREE money is deposited to it, you now have ownership of $3400.00 in your account. You might think that to be absolutely fabulous and wonderful, until you decide to withdraw/debit money BEYOND what you personally earned and deposited.
What I am saying is, the government TRACKS the money that it spends and gives out, therefore YOU will be monitored as to whether you are spending that money or you are not.

So, if in 6 months time, you have a total of $6000.00 in your account, from 6 deposits of FREE money (gold), and you have only $4.00 left of your own earned income,
WILL YOU BE TEMPTED, to withdraw some of that FREE money (gold) that has been allotted to you by the government?
 

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As I did say, there will be a cataclysmic event, either natural or man made. Their goal is, there will be a one world global government, one way or another, whose maker and builder is the Illuminati through the UN. It is their idea of "The Millennium" on earth.
.
We are on the verge of witnessing the four angels bound in the Euphrates being loosed, whose purpose is to kill off 1/3 of men in an hour, a day, a month and a year. Which is to say, on a specific date, 33% of the world pop. will be toast!
Rev. 9:15
What condition will the world be in then??
Ans. Deplorable and ripe, to receive the MoB!!
It will be the only way, according to them, to keep it together. Remember: "Save The Earth!!" LoL!
.
So, if some Christians believe that there is going to be a Millennium to take place on earth, then they might as well know now that Jesus won't be in it. Read your Bible! When Jesus returns, he is coming in flaming fire!

Zechariah says that the feet of the Messiah will touch the Mount of Olives and the ground will split in two. There is no mention of fire. I agree that just before the Final Judgment (after the Millennium) He will send fire from heaven to burn up all His enemies who are surrounding Jerusalem.
 

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So, if some Christians believe that there is going to be a Millennium to take place on earth, then they might as well know now that Jesus won't be in it. Read your Bible! When Jesus returns, he is coming in flaming fire!

“He is coming in flaming fire.”

May I ask if you believe the thousand year reign is already or yet future?
 

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Cont'd
MoB and the Temptation

After coming to the understanding that an allotment of FREE money (gold) is going to be the MoB, as revealed in the comparison of Rev. 13:18 and
1 Kings 10:14, the process of how it shall be implemented is called "Universal Basic Income".
.
Each and everyone of us are now required to have some form of a personal bank account.
Today, "cash" is becoming almost obsolete. There are more and more people with credit/debit cards in their wallets, than cash. We are now at the point of being able to buy and sell everything on that basis.
.
Even churches are open to the use of credit/debit cards. I must admit, that I have showed up in church and placing nothing in the "offering", because of having no cash, but plenty in my bank account.
.
The MoB is not going to be a "hunt you down" strategy. Nope! Not in the least bit!
The concept of UBI will be one of a shrewd and subtle temptation, whereby you will comply with it willingly, and for your own purposes. No one will be holding a we-apon to your head.
.
For whatever cataclysmic event that shall happen in the world, eventually UBI will be implemented on a global scale, whereby the government of each nation will freely deposit electronically, a prescribed financial allotment into EVERY one of its citizens bank account.
.
So what's the catch?
That FREE money (gold) will be listed as a deposit of let's say- $1000.00. In your account also, is the money (gold) that you personally earned.
So, if $ 2400.00 was already there of your earned money, and then the government's FREE money is deposited to it, you now have ownership of $3400.00 in your account. You might think that to be absolutely fabulous and wonderful, until you decide to withdraw/debit money BEYOND what you personally earned and deposited.
What I am saying is, the government TRACKS the money that it spends and gives out, therefore YOU will be monitored as to whether you are spending that money or you are not.

So, if in 6 months time, you have a total of $6000.00 in your account, from 6 deposits of FREE money (gold), and you have only $4.00 left of your own earned income,
WILL YOU BE TEMPTED, to withdraw some of that FREE money (gold) that has been allotted to you by the government?
Let me express my thoughts with a little more clout!
Since there a few here, who are not getting the big picture, it's because they are too steeped in the "religious language", that they have erroneously assimilated as BEING THEIR OWN.
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When I said that the MoB will be NON-Religious, I mean it will be exactly that, NON-Religious!!