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Pearl

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Most do not flaunt. Those that do are not outnumbered by your preferred choice of sex partner, who does.
The people I have known who are gay haven't been like that but things have been changing. They have what they call Gay Pride parades here in the UK and more and more towns and cities are doing them. Also there are a lot of gay male presenters on TV who use a lot of uncomfortable innuendo. Stores are doing rainbow bags and rainbow sandwiches can you believe? They use the rainbow as their symbol.
 

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Follow your local law as it is God's will for man.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3
1 Timothy 2
Psalms 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Romans 13:7
1 Timothy 2
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Revelation 1
Romans 13:4
Proverbs 21
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 29
Proverbs 8:15
Psalms 94:20
Deuteronomy 28
Daniel 2:21
John 19:10-11
Colossians 1:15-17
Well yes I agree, it is legal now for same sex couples to get 'married' and some churches agree to it whilst others don't. What would your church advocate in that situation?
 
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Well yes I agree, it is legal now for same sex couples to get 'married' and some churches agree to it whilst others don't. What would your church advocate in that situation?
Mine would def not condone it. But, we welcome ALL people.
 

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Well yes I agree, it is legal now for same sex couples to get 'married' and some churches agree to it whilst others don't. What would your church advocate in that situation?

My response to my church would be the same as Peter and the apostles, "I listen to God over you religious leaders."
Acts 5:29
 
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The people I have known who are gay haven't been like that but things have been changing. They have what they call Gay Pride parades here in the UK and more and more towns and cities are doing them. Also there are a lot of gay male presenters on TV who use a lot of uncomfortable innuendo. Stores are doing rainbow bags and rainbow sandwiches can you believe? They use the rainbow as their symbol.

Uncomfortable innuendo and uncomfortable parades are a staple of society going back centuries. Sex and nudity in public is a European specialty. The only difference is that Homosexuals are beginning to be visible and not in hiding.

You can't tell me that you have ever, in your lifetime, thought that the people you've seen in parades are a representation of any group? Likely they are not even a good cross section, of the group they actually are representing!

I was in a dog obedience group once and only a select number of very active members got to march in parades.
 
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Yes what? Can you FORM a complete thought?
Yes you do or do not support homosexual marriage ?



LOL, more lefty twisted corruption!



Equal Dignity to whom?
No ONE was granted dignity under the 14th Amendment. LOL

:rolleyes:

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Sorry, I don't understand the question.
 

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There is no law against doing good. Those flaunting their sin are doing harm to others. Such should be restrained from doing so for the benefit of the weak. Let people hate Christians, they hated Jesus first.

Whoops...sorry. No can do.

1 Corinthians 5:12
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

Mark 4
11 He replied, "The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to those on the outside, everything is expressed in parables,
 

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I don't really want to argue with your theology since that seems to offend you, but, according to Scripture, you are not correct. Matthew 11:20-22; Luke 12:47-48; John 19:11; Hebrews 10:29 tell us that there are varying degrees of punishment because all people are NOT equally bad. Christians are justified before God's law. Coming to Christ in repentance and seeking His forgiveness and indwelling, does two things: 1) it absolves of previous sin and we are declared righteous before His law--washed in His Blood. 2) We are helped to avoid sin by His indwelling Holy Spirit. Because of His constant presence, we develop a distaste for our former sins and adhering to the Ten Commandments becomes a minimum standard of conduct. But, not all who claim Christ have the indwelling Holy Spirit, which is given to those who obey Him. (Acts 5:32; John 14:15-18; Acts 2:38; 2 Peter 1:2-4). Those who have no repentance and who have no intention to obey Him in ALL things will die in their sins. The temptation to sin is NOT sin. Succumbing to the temptation is where sin resides.

I just hate to contradict you, but you are always welcome to argue any point you desire.

I agree completely that the type of sins will match the punishment perfectly.
But the wages of sin is death...and not half/death or a day of bedrest.
Without forgiveness...we will all be in Hell.
Every single little tiny sin - deserves death.
We are only saved by grace, and that grace which we do not offer others, will not be given to us either.


Luke 6
37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;


But people don't believe this applies to them.
 
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Uncomfortable innuendo and uncomfortable parades are a staple of society going back centuries. Sex and nudity in public is a European specialty. The only difference is that Homosexuals are beginning to be visible and not in hiding.

You can't tell me that you have ever, in your lifetime, thought that the people you've seen in parades are a representation of any group? Likely they are not even a good cross section, of the group they actually are representing!

I was in a dog obedience group once and only a select number of very active members got to march in parades.

Good observation SW. It is the extreme, and very small handful of the ones you see in the news as, if they showed you 99.9% of the rest, it would be pretty boring. The news has put the face of the extremists onto ALL homosexuals. So very un-balanced as to laugh, really. It's news to give people more reason to hate whole groups of people, IMO. The pride parades are broadcast to only show the most shocking, in your face half naked men. So, of course if you see and hear this kind of thing enough, you paint a small picture with a very broad brush. JMHO :)
 
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If you were referring to what the guy did with you in bed...I'm surprised you repeated it to her.

Yes, there are extremists out there, as well as family homosexuals with kids in college, like my relatives.
Scripture is only referring to the law breakers. Only referring to Sodomites.
Well Satan ! you are caught out trying to claim something here that is totally incorrect.

Why do you make up such a stupid thing like that you have just made out, are you depraved ? no one did anything with me in bed at all.

The point I was making was that many women don't believe that any man would do such a thing, especially ones born before 1950's as many will think when one is informing them of such, is just being totally pathetic and will not believe such is the case at all, flat refusing that such is the case at all. as they can not fathom such a thing. I know of many that are like that.

Not to mention that back before WW2 anyone who played up with depraved sexual people, such was as good as death sentence you know, so it was a fact that you did not do any depraved sexual things, unless you were a degenerate who was dicing with death.
Only with the advancement of medication nowadays has brought about a disregard to such abstaining from such depraved activity's, that we now see with modern day fools peddling, not to mention strut about empowered by such depravity, not to mention that they mouth off at anyone who points out their depravity, especially TV host looking down their nose at all who oppose such depravity.

I worked with a Arab once and he said when he came to Sydney Australia in 1972, he was with his wife in a bus and they seen two bloke gay blokes holding hands and kissing in the street, he said that his wife could not believe such, the fact was that such a thought had never entered her head ever of such a concept. he had to explain it to her, but she did not believe such was true.
 

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One can look at AIDS and see the devil is in the detail and if one bothers to look into it totally, one can see that the way that this has been dealt with is in fact is so it could spread, their is big money in AIDS ! and no one could be so stupid as to go down the path that the world has been lead down with it, if you bother to look into it all. not to mention on top of this is all the promotion of Sodomite Gay festivals. No one could be so stupid to promote such degenerates and it's the workings of Satanist leading people astray. it's a culture of death !

A mate rang me and said that a old mate of his stayed over the night and hey gave him one of their kids bed who was a way that weekend and pissed the bed :eek::rolleyes: now I know that idiot and I know of 3 others who are depraved as that dude who had got the clap many times and they all piss the bed now, one even done such drinking at the bar in his 30's and that's only one thing that such depravity causes, that medication can't help you with, you want to know all the others ? no ! not on this forum.

But I will say that Sin is the wagers of Death. so best not peddle it hey, regardless of what the degenerate TV of Government may claim nowadays as they are nothing but a sewer, not to mention the fact is you reap what you sow, not to mention they who sow filth hurt how many others, so we have clown saying why does god let so many bad things happen, well it's Sin that is the main problem and homosexual acts are a capital Sin.
 

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Whoops...sorry. No can do.

1 Corinthians 5:12
For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

Judging conduct should be done when we have legitimate authority. With the decline of the moral fabric it is unlikely Christians will hold sufficient authority over the world to pass legislation to back out the digressive ideals.
 

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Well Satan ! you are caught out trying to claim something here that is totally incorrect.

Why do you make up such a stupid thing like that you have just made out, are you depraved ? no one did anything with me in bed at all.

The point I was making was that many women don't believe that any man would do such a thing, especially ones born before 1950's as many will think when one is informing them of such, is just being totally pathetic and will not believe such is the case at all, flat refusing that such is the case at all. as they can not fathom such a thing. I know of many that are like that.

Not to mention that back before WW2 anyone who played up with depraved sexual people, such was as good as death sentence you know, so it was a fact that you did not do any depraved sexual things, unless you were a degenerate who was dicing with death.
Only with the advancement of medication nowadays has brought about a disregard to such abstaining from such depraved activity's, that we now see with modern day fools peddling, not to mention strut about empowered by such depravity, not to mention that they mouth off at anyone who points out their depravity, especially TV host looking down their nose at all who oppose such depravity.

I worked with a Arab once and he said when he came to Sydney Australia in 1972, he was with his wife in a bus and they seen two bloke gay blokes holding hands and kissing in the street, he said that his wife could not believe such, the fact was that such a thought had never entered her head ever of such a concept. he had to explain it to her, but she did not believe such was true.

Completely true. Just like if I were to tell you that you must marry a man, because that is the only type of relationship that God approves of, you would find the notion .... even though you believe that sex attraction is a learned behavior.....there is no way you could possibly switch your passions to sex with another man. Not a chance.

Gays feel the same way.

I dated a girl who has no attraction to any women.....except for the one she lived with for 5 years. But before and after that....men exclusively. She doesn't consider herself gay. Or even Bi-Sexual.

The Romans Emperors starting before Jesus time each were documented as having homosexual sex. They engaged in their passions and allowed lust to make decisions for them. Just the same as Professional Football players do today....though we've not yet heard the stories of gay sex abuse in football, they likely are out there.

Scripture is referring to the uncontrolled passions that Sodom was known for. Most Homosexuals are not interested in living like that either.

The point I was making was you telling somebody about a sexual experience. You don't know a thing about a sexual experience, unless you read it in this mans diary, or you watched it happen, or you participated.

My wife has known a gay couple and been very close friends for 20 years. I don't think she could even confirm that they have ever had sex. She can imagine they have, as you can imagine gay couples have. But I've never seen them even holding hands. I have a gay cousin I grew up with who has two boys in college. I've never seen her hold hands or kiss her spouse. I can imagine they have had intimate contact.....but it is all in my imagination.

And unless you've watched gay sex, then you are imagining the event ever happens.
 
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Well Satan ! you are caught out trying to claim something here that is totally incorrect.

Why do you make up such a stupid thing like that you have just made out, are you depraved ? no one did anything with me in bed at all.

Then how do you know it happened? Telephoto lenses? A remote camera?
 

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Judging conduct should be done when we have legitimate authority. With the decline of the moral fabric it is unlikely Christians will hold sufficient authority over the world to pass legislation to back out the digressive ideals.

So you do not believe scripture then?

Romans 13
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God,
and those that exist have been instituted by God.

1 Peter 2
13 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Titus 3
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

Psalm 22
28 For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.

Proverbs 21
The king's heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.

Not even Jesus?

John 19
Jesus answered him,
“You would have no authority over me
at all unless it had been given you from above.
 
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