The Sabbath is not a ritual. It is a way of life as are the other nine commandments. I never said anything concerning "Saturday only worship". That is you trying to add to my words things that are not true. Yes, he is after "genuine love". That is why he said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." The same holds true for our Heavenly Father as 1 John 5:3 shows. If we don't keep His commandments, we do NOT have genuine love for Him.
See....I'm getting this big schism from you. You say, on one hand, that the Sabbath issue is NOT a salvational issue. And yet, on the other hand, you lump it into 'if you don't do it (keep the Sabbath) you don't love Jesus. Which....let's just be honest...is a salvational issue.
You speak often about what Jesus actually says on 'the commandments', but...mmm...I dunno. Seems to me that when Jesus spoaks of keeping "his commandments" he's specifically pointing to the one he's just spoken about: "love one another".
We also know he commands us to "Love the Lord your God will all your heart, strength and mind, and love your neighbour as yourself". And, of course, we could go through the passages where he touches on the fact that if we have anger for our brother, we've just done the equivilent to murder.
My point being: if you INSIST that the NT supports the keeping of the Saturday Sabbath....how about you show it?
He is not the Lord of a day that no longer exists or of a day that we are free to trample on.
I can't say I understand your point here, sorry.
Paul never used the word "substance". That is a false translation by Sabbath trampling translators. The Greek word is soma meaning the body. In context it means the Body of Messiah (the believers).
My...that's convenient, isn't it?
The problem with that is: it makes zero sense. "Let no one judge you in regards to a... Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the 'body (church)' belongs to Christ."
No one is to judge us about festivals or days because they're shadows of things to come BUT the church belongs to Christ.
Perhaps that would make a little sense if it said AND the church belongs to Christ.
No...the reason it's translated that way is because to use 'the body...the church' makes the passage nonsensical. However, if something is formerly a shadow, and is now made 'body' or 'reality' or 'substance' in Christ....which also fits every other theological understanding about Christ throughout OT and NT...THEN it makes sense.
Hebrews 10:1-14 is talking about the shadows of animal sacrifices, not the Sabbath. However, Hebrews 10:16 goes on to tell us how the Law (Torah) would be written on our hearts and minds under the New Covenant. That includes the Sabbath, all Ten Cs, the two greatest commandments, the dietary laws, the Feast Days, etc. If you don't want them written there, so be it. It's your choice. YHWH will not force His laws upon you. A heart of genuine love for Him will readily embrace them.
Wait....you include the dietary laws and the feast days?!
How's about this....New Testament verses that prove it?
Because here's the skinny: I can find NT verses that tell me I am under grace, not law. I can find NT verses that tell me I have freedom to worship on any day, not just Saturday. I can find NT verses telling me the POINT of the Sabbath was Christ all along. And I most certainly can find NT verses telling me that dietary laws and feasts are not something I am bound to.
So...if you want to have a conversation with any shred of credibility, you have to have it rest on something more than what the OT says. AND it has to go hand in hand with what I've just mentioned the NT says. Because if you cannot show, persuaisively, that your NT verses either show mine to be mis-read or wrong...there IS no conversation.
If you think I'm Pharisaical, then you have no idea what Pharisaical adherence to the 10 was. They couldn't even carry a handkerchief on the Sabbath. The fact is, every word of YHWH is my bread, as is Yeshua, the bread of life. So when YHWH says not to work on the 7th day, I obey knowing that doing so is for my good.
But aren't you, again, missing the point? The point Christ was making was not "the Pharisees are going way overboard, you guys need to narrow down your check list"...it was that he wanted their hearts, not their adherance to rules, no matter what, or how many, those rules where. Because let's face it, you are still claiming that SOME rules are required. You might say it's not a requirement of salvation, but the moment you tack it on after salvation, you're making it a requirement to KEEP it...which would be something to boast in, no? Doesn't Paul tell us:
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. -Galatians 1:6–7
Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? -Galatians 3:2–3
As Christians we strive to live LIKE Christ, in RESPONSE to salvation. But it cannot be a rule, a requirement we meet. Because if it is, and we achieve it (which right there is a problem, as we cannot, that's why Christ came), we then have something to boast in and by 'perfected by the flesh' in.
BTW, in case you didn't know it, YHWH's grace is found throughout the OT, even while they were to obey YHWH's commandments. The law is designed to point out sin. When we look into the mirror of the law, we see the sin on our face. We then go to Yeshua to be cleansed by his blood. We receive grace through sincere repentance. You are using a broken mirror in which you cannot see the dirt/sin of Sabbath breaking on your face so you can repent of it. You go on your merry way thinking you are clean, but your sin of Sabbath breaking remains. You need a new mirror. The one YHWH wants to put in your heart; Torah.
Do you want to know why I KNOW I am clean? Because none of it rests upon my work, or my failure to DO or NOT DO anything...even keep the Sabbath, should it turn out I have been mistaken.
Everything, my salvation, my keeping IN the faith, my growing closer to Christ every day...that is held by one and one alone...Christ. It is in HIS strength and perfection...his being and his redemptive work on the cross, that my sins are forgiven. And his work is not lacking at all. To say that I've left that smudge there, that there is something left of my own making that Christ's sacrifice cannot cover, is not only defeating your claim that it's not linked to salvational issues, but you are, in fact, saying that Christ's work and being is NOT sufficient to cover all my sins.
And that is simply not true and not biblical.