Defending Homosexuality

Reggie Belafonte said:

One can look at AIDS and see the devil is in the detail and if one bothers to look into it totally, one can see that the way that this has been dealt with is in fact is so it could spread, their is big money in AIDS ! and no one could be so stupid as to go down the path that the world has been lead down with it, if you bother to look into it all. not to mention on top of this is all the promotion of Sodomite Gay festivals. No one could be so stupid to promote such degenerates and it's the workings of Satanist leading people astray. it's a culture of death !

A mate rang me and said that a old mate of his stayed over the night and hey gave him one of their kids bed who was a way that weekend and pissed the bed now I know that idiot and I know of 3 others who are depraved as that dude who had got the clap many times and they all piss the bed now, one even done such drinking at the bar in his 30's and that's only one thing that such depravity causes, that medication can't help you with, you want to know all the others ? no ! not on this forum.

But I will say that Sin is the wagers of Death. so best not peddle it hey, regardless of what the degenerate TV of Government may claim nowadays as they are nothing but a sewer, not to mention the fact is you reap what you sow, not to mention they who sow filth hurt how many others, so we have clown saying why does god let so many bad things happen, well it's Sin that is the main problem and homosexual acts are a capital Sin.

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SkyWriting said:

So you do not believe scripture then?

Romans 13
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God,
and those that exist have been instituted by God.

1 Peter 2
13 Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Titus 3
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

Psalm 22
28 For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.

Proverbs 21
The king's heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.

Not even Jesus?

John 19
Jesus answered him,
“You would have no authority over me
at all unless it had been given you from above.

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SkyWriting said:

Most homosexuals have no interest in Sodom type sin with multiple partners, and do not engage in it.
Scripture is only referring to those who do.

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"ByGrace" said:

I had often wondered if they called themselves Gay, or whether they were 'called Gay' by others.

Wiki

It seems they called themselves gay. I wonder why.
Quote:- Terms used to describe homosexuality have gone through many changes since the emergence of the first terms in the mid-19th century.
In English, some terms in widespread use have been sodomite , sapphic, Uranian , Homophile, lesbian , gay , and same-sex attracted.
Some of these words are specific to women, some to men, and some can be used of either. Gay people may also be identified under the umbrella terms queer and LGBT.

The term Homosexual was coined in 1869. > end quote.


A number of years back I heard a preacher say that Masturbation is a same sex relationship activity. It is relationship with self...= same sex having sex.

So...how do you like them apples!! ?

Maybe it would cause some to rethink their quick judgement eh?

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SkyWriting said:

Most homosexuals have no interest in Sodom type sin with multiple partners, and do not engage in it. Scripture is only referring to those who do. In a couple of passages, it spells out exactly the sin of leaving one spouse for another person. Which is the same sin of infidelity for Heterosexuals.

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Reggie Belafonte said:

You must be talking about pansy's and not homosexuals.

A homosexual is a deviate who is into same sex relations and most run about looking to find anyone they can to have sex with or what ever they can do to get off.

Now listen mate, we have many problems with such people they drill holes in the public dunny's and many have been caught having sexual dealings in such places with people who they have only just met, try to spy on people in the dunny's you name it they are the dregs, you talk with them and they are into anything.
We had the Prime minister come at a Vineyard and a poofter seen the PM go into the dunny and so he was off like a flash to go see the PM's wee wee and then came back to tell all, he was so exited but that's it, they are idiots, I went to my sisters place once and a Gay was their and when I went to the dunny he raced into the dunny like a rocket to come in with me how stupid ! can one get, it's a disgrace.
Not to mention other times having to deal with creeps like that, it's like oh really ! get lost you dirty dog.
No wonder such do get bashed up, because they sicken people with their vial antics.

So I think that you are talking about Pansy's, not filthy degenerate homosexuals.
And what do you call people who are in Jail who rape people all the time, they are homosexuals aren't they and what about the filthy priest who rape boys they are poofters no doubt.

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"ByGrace" said:

Hey Reggie,
You sure have a way with words
Very colourful.

I don’t think we can lump them all together like that.
You are describing the drags of society ...perverts, but we have them in every level and walk of life.
I mean , I had one uncle who “tried it on “ with my two brothers and all my male cousins.
Yet I had 4 other uncles who were all quite normal, it’s not- “one size fits all” .

I for sure don’t have all the answers ...
I actually don’t believe that those rapist in the prisons are homosexuals...they just use the weaker men as a woman. I believe they actually rape the homosexuals more than the straight guys.

That’s what I have heard anyway ...but , I know nothing. Neither do I understand it all! lol

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Taken said:

Lady Crosstalk, Pearl, Stranger;

A couple of thoughts from my perspective...
Perhaps you have or have not Considered...


1) Love ~ Hate
Love and Hate are not opposites.
Hate means a strong disLIKE.
Thus Hate is the opposite of Like.

God said:

Mal 1:
[1] ...the word of the LORD ...
[2] ...I loved Jacob...
[3] And I hated Esau...

God said:

Zech 8
[17] ...these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.

Clearly God HATES "people" AND "things" AND "things people Do".

It is people who say....
Love the sinner, but Hate the sin.

People are held accountable for what they DO.
If one ONLY hates the SiN...is it the SIN that becomes accountable For the act of the man?

No. Sin is not punished. The man himself bares the burden and accountability.

God Loves NOTHING about SIN.
The WHOLE teaching in Scripture is ABOUT:
HOW Gods Created MAN-KIND of thing, is naturally born AGAINST God;
And HOW God has provided a "WAY" for a naturally Created MAN-KIND of thing, TO become "MADE" IN Gods "LIKENESS", By His Grace, THROUGH His Power.
Grace IS Gods Action.
Power IS Gods Spirit which IS Christ.

1 Cor 1
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

God HATES, that which is NOT "LIKE" GOD...
People, Things, Behaviors.

The word "HATE" has become Perverted.
God IS LOVE, and LOVES all of His Creations.
What Gods HATES, is that not ALL of His Creations WILL CHOOSE to Love Him, and Desire to BE LIKE HIM.

Personally, I do not say, Hate the Sin, but Love the sinner.

Gods Grace is Forward TO...
An "UN-forgiven" Sinner.
(As we become "FORGIVEN", while still IN our natural Likeness, since God does not Save the Saved)
And Once Forgiven...
A "FORGIVEN" Sinner, is in a Different "Degree" / "measurement" OF being "Love-ED'.
A "FORGIVEN" Sinner, IS: BELOVED By God.
And "BELOVED" means;
MUCH Loved; DEARLY Loved.

2) Love
What IS Love?
God IS Love.
Love IS an Emotion, that comes from the HEART.
Love IS Revealed, Via an Action Toward Another that IS Loved.
Gods Action is to Forgive His Loved Creations.
( God does not FORCE His Forgiveness (salvation or quickening) UPON any man. A man must Desire and Ask God for Forgiveness)
A Forgiven man, THEN becomes "BELOVED"..
Dearly Loved, Much Loved.

Love (not Beloved) means; Doing what is Good for Another;
Regardless of the Consquences.

There Comes IN the dilemma of the ENEMY. How does one LOVE an ENEMY?

Gods ENEMY, IS Against God.
Mans ENEMY, IS Against the man.

God KNOWS who IS Against HIM, Against His Likeness.

Men ALSO KNOWS who IS Against him, Against his Likeness.

And...IF a man WHO is NOT in another mans LIKENESS...Would such a man support, promote, participate in...THINGS the person, NOT in his likeness does?

God Doesn't, and neither are we to do so.

Yet...IF a man WHO is NOT in another mans LIKENESS...and such man be IN DISTRESS, IN a HARDSHIP...
Have a flat tire, need medical assistance, drowning, ask you for help, being wrongly accused, etc. WOULD YOU HELP HIM?

God Would, and so also are we to do so.
(Gods greatest Adversary is satan, YET God gives him a position of great power, authority, control, that he may do things IN Opposition To God.)

Men "NOT" In Christ, CAN and DO, the complete Opposite of LOVE...which IS:
To LOATH.

Men "IN" Christ, CAN and DO, "LOVE" their ENEMIES..."simply because they are Commanded to do so"? No.

No. They CAN and DO "Love" their "ENEMIES", BECAUSE such a man HAS "GIVEN" God the Authority for His Spirit (POWER] to Dwell Within the man; and it is BY and THROUGH the POWER of God within such a man, the man IS IN Gods LIKENESS;
To Love ALL of Gods Creations.

It is the LOVE toward an ENEMY, that a man IN Christ, will instinctly AID another, Friend or Foe.

It is the HATE toward an ENEMY, that a man IN CHRIST, will instinctly NOT support that which God Hates.

It is the WORLD, that Dictates to TOLERATE, SUPPORT, PROMOTE, ADVOCATE and ACCEPT that WHICH is your ENEMY.

It is God who Teaches, A MAN "IN" CHRIST, is NOT "OF" the "THIS" WORLD. Thus what the "WORLD" Accepts, IS NOT the SAME, which a MAN "IN" CHRIST Accepts.

( And thereafter comes the Namecalling...toward an unaccepting man;
Hater, bigot, racist, homophobe, extremist, mean, anti-blah, blah, )

And so what? The name calling, requires no explanation; but to say, That is HATE, expected because I am NOT "OF" the World.

John 17
[14] I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

3) Gay
Gay IS Apparel that is NOT ragged.
Gay IS a State of joyfullness.
Homosexuals have Adopted the term Gay, as a Description "OF" one "BEING" a Homosexual.
Hetersexuals have Accepted Homosexuals "Highjacking" the Term Gay, TO APPLY ONLY to Homosexuals.

Homosexuals may certainly wear Apparel that is not ragged.
Homosexuals may certainly be Joyful...
But la de da....the same applies to Heterosexuals!

Not a Secret ... THE WORLD shall TURN the TRUTH INTO A LIE.

Marriage was Established to be between A man and A woman, Bonding Together; A stronger Vessel with a weaker Vessel; and Purposed for their Bond to Pro-Create MORE "vessels" (bodies).

It is a foreshadow; (for a coming preparation)
Of mankind (a weak Vessel) Bonding with a Stronger Vessel..."mankind AND God" Through Gods Word (Jesus), Gods Power (Christ) and Gods Wisdom (Christ the Lord Jesus).

Abomination means; Hatred and Disgust.

Why would HOMOSEXUALITY be an ABOMINATION unto God?

The FACT IS: A forgiven, saved, born again, glorified man............BECOMES;
God Inheritance!

Homosexuals partners; CAN NOT, DO NOT reproduce offspring.

In essence; Homosexual partners, BY their OWN choosing; CAN NOT, DO NOT, have an Inheritance Offering unto God.

And FYI, God is a Jealous God. He WANTS His Inheritance. He has provided man-KIND of thing, with the seed (sperm & egg) to GIVE God His Inheritance....

God has ALSO provided an Inheritance for man-KIND in His earthly Kingdom.....LAND to occupy. Wonder if SOME, who were ABLE to Give God His Inheritance and WITHHELD it, will Hate and Be Disgusted when they do not receive an Inheritance of LAND, In Gods Earthly Kingdom...

Perversions abound ~
Gay ~ hijacked, represents Homosexuals only
Rainbow ~ hijacked, represents Homosexuals only
Marriage ~ corrupted, No longer represents A man and A woman being JOINED in Wed-LOCK.

Marriage IS between A man and A woman.
God placed prohibitions ON paticular Men and Women to become Married.
Secular Laws place prohibition, conditions, qualifiers ON particular Male and Females to become Married.

Why are people of the SAME gender NOW Accepted in a LEGAL MARRIAGE?
~ RIGHTS??~
What about 5 year olds, or 14 year olds who want to Marry?
What about a man who wants to marry his car?
What about a woman who wants to marry her pet cat?
What about a man who wants to marry his natural adult daughter?
What about an old woman who lives in a Shoe and wants to marry her Shoe and be happy and gay reproducing a bunch of little baby Shoes?
Really? Does any of those things REQUIRE a LEGAL Acceptance BY a Government?
What shall the Government "LEGALLY" NEXT....forgo of its prohibitions, conditions and qualifiers?
No...prohibitions, conditions, qualifiers ON...
Granted citizenship, Visas, Licensing, Welfare, Loans, Employment, Travel, Gambling, Abortions, Murder, Drugs, Hunting, Planting, blah, blah, blah???

Sort of seems to BE the Trend the World is promoting....eh?

Glory to God,
Taken

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Waiting on him said:

No one has yet to explain to me... the adulterous relationships practiced in every church and allowed by all governments. It’s celebrated and for sure practiced by many on this forum. What’s so hard to understand about thou shall not have another mans wife? Totally acceptable practiced in the pew right next to you. Set those who are least among you to judge?

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Stranger said:

Well, are they an abomination or not?

Before you issue words of chastisement, perhaps you should read all the posts here.

I see you have not accused skywriting of slinging the word 'gay'. Why not?

After you read all the posts, then I will answer your question, if you believe then it is still relevant. I believe I started at post #(567) on p. 29.

Stranger

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Stranger said:

Give some Scripture to your question and statements.

Stranger

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Taken said:

What is the underlying POINT regarding Adultery?

Isn't the the statutes and laws all a preparation for manKIND to become MADE "like" God?

When a man and a woman decide to Marry...
Has it worldly come to...people regularly Marry for Looks, Money, Prestige, Convenience, Position. etc....only to discover loveless Marriages are dismal?

Marriage between a man and a woman, is Supposed to be founded ON LOVE of thee Lord God and the Love between the two persons. Think that is Prominent now days? I don't.

The Adultery, has more meaning forward to what God has Prepared for a man in Faith-FULLNESS to God. It is not a Flippant election, to Love God one day, and Loathe Him the Next day. A True commitment to be Joined....FOREVER....with Thee ONE God; is Forever, thus, a TRUE Love of God, is a Commitment one must be SURE OF, because there IS No Adultery to be had.
Because when one commits in True Heartfelt Love toward God, and confesses the same...
It is by The Power of God, that mans LOVE remains True to God.

Love between people however, comes with "conditions", and when those "conditions" fail, Not all persons Turn to God to Resolve their issues.

They are offered the opportunity to Divorce, which effectively, allows them to Separate from one another and the marriage.

There is no such Offering for one who is ENJOINED with God.

Thou shalt not commit Adultery...
And "what if one does"?
Will the Lord God not Forgive the man or woman?
Thou shalt not have another god Before God.
And "what if a man has another god Before/(greater than) God Almighty?
Will the Lord God ALSO Forgive a man whose God is another god? Yes, He WILL...IF and WHEN the man foregoes the other god, and make his allegience First and foremost to God Almighty.

We are naturally born corrupt, and while we are learning what pleases God, we do many things that are not pleasing to God.

God is fully aware of our corrupt state, our weaknesses, our displeasing ways...
And those things become accounted to us, whether or not we change and become Forgiven.

So, should a man or woman commit Adultery against their spouse....The accountability and consequences lay at the feet of the one who commits Adultery.....
Loses of many things they worked to achive and share in charitable ways...

The Command to not commit Adultery, IS beneficial for both spouses ....
And it is a "practice" so to speak, and "preparation" for a man to become ENJOINED with God.

All babies are secure in God...
Obviously those not reproducing are not adding to Gods Inheritance.

Glory to God,
Taken

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Waiting on him said:

Point is if we’re gonna reject the queers, then we need to also need to reject the adulterous. God says their to be stoned to death

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"ByGrace" said:

Agree.. There are not big sins and little sin... James says - if we live by the law we must keep it ALL.
10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. "

Yet we seem to want it both ways! ie:-
Such as, "His sins are much worse than my small sin"

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