Is Jesus the only Way?

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marks

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A very poisonous and antichrist type statement. You might as well say 'Hath God said?", especially in a culture that is increasing in illiteracy of the bible. The Holy Spirit and God's written word work in conjunction with each other.

Acts 4:12 KJVS
[12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Hi Prism,

I think that people become more aware of the Living God in our midst through the Scriptures. As you say, the Holy Spirit together with the Bible.

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So which is it? Does Jesus point to the bible for salvation...or does the bible point to Jesus for salvation?

How do you know about Jesus?

To be sure I don't question your faith. But I like to follow through this thinking.

Much love!
 

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The opposite is true. You are elevating a book to being a divinity in it's own right. But the bible only points the way. Your position is therefore idolatrous.

The devil uses the bible as much as God does. So you will be fooled in this way.

And it's the bible that reveals this. So then the Holy Spirit uses the bible...but it is not always the Holy Spirit who does. In this your argument turns on itself.

I maintain that God goes unnoticed in the midst of many who proclaim various verses from the bible.

It is just as the religious people in Jesus' day who also claimed the scriptures for themselves but were fully ignorant of Jesus....of whom the scriptures were written both by and about.
"The opposite is true. You are elevating a book to being a divinity in it's own right. But the bible only points the way. Your position is therefore idolatrous."
You appear to be exalting your word above that of Scripture. It says what it means and means what it says.
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
(Isa 8:20)


I maintain that God is besmearched by those who denigrate His Word.
"It is just as the religious people in Jesus' day who also claimed the scriptures for themselves but were fully ignorant of Jesus....of whom the scriptures were written both by and about."
The religious people in Jesus day exalted their own traditions above God's Word...

Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
(Mar 7:13)


Your disparaging of Scripture is dangerous to anyone's faith...

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
(Rom 10:17
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"The devil uses the bible as much as God does. So you will be fooled in this way."
The difference is as born again Christians we have the Author of the Bible living in us to lead and guide us in the Scriptures.

Your vain attempt to silence those who use the sword of the Spirit won't work!
 
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Not at all my friend, you obviously read with a crooked eye.
It was neither poisonous or antichrist...

"Lord, open his eyes that he may see. "

Bless you.

I took back a like on the rest of the post due to that wording, but the way I see people downgrade the Bible compared their own "revelation" truly concerns me.

Without an objective standard by which to compare ourselves, we compare ourselves by ourselves, and by each other, that that does not lead to good things, when everyone does what is right in their own eyes.

Too many people are too good at fooling themselves. My thinking anyway. But I'll never never set aside the Authority of the Bible.

Much love!
 
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Not at all my friend, you obviously read with a crooked eye.
It was neither poisonous or antichrist...

"Lord, open his eyes that he may see. "

Bless you.
Please explain how I read wrong, I am listening. :)
 

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A very poisonous and antichrist type statement. You might as well say 'Hath God said?", especially in a culture that is increasing in illiteracy of the bible. The Holy Spirit and God's written word work in conjunction with each other.

Acts 4:12 KJVS
[12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
I agree with you, notice there is only few who would recognize it?
Most will welcome the false teachers. Seems many wouldn't recognize an attack on the word of God if someone shredded up the bible in front of them.
 
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I agree with you, notice there is only few who would recognize it?
Most will welcome the false teachers. Seems many wouldn't recognize an attack on the word of God if someone shredded up the bible in front of them.
Yes, I was quite shocked to be reading some of this stuff. It seems to be not just prevalent here but in many forums. Postmodernism mixed with 'Christian' Mysticism on steroids.
 
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Wow! what I see that should be alerting to false teaching is someone calling the bible scripture dogma or sticking to it as dogmatic and referring to the standing on the authority of the word of God as--idolatrous??? This is a dangerous twisting of the truth.
That is an attempt to state that UP is DOWN and Down is UP!
 
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Yes, I was quite shocked to be reading some of this stuff. It seems to be not just prevalent here but in many forums. Postmodernism mixed with 'Christian' Mysticism on steroids.
Yes bro and the few who tolerate sound doctrine and the falling away is happening.
 
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Wow! what I see that should be alerting to false teaching is someone calling the bible scripture dogma or sticking to it as dogmatic and referring to the standing on the authority of the word of God as--idolatrous??? This is a dangerous twisting of the truth.
That is an attempt to state that UP is DOWN and Down is UP!
And coming from Christians to boot, is the sad part.
 
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And coming from Christians to boot, is the sad part.
Matt 7:15 "15 BEWARE of False prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. " The ones that will distort the message in the Word of God.
What disturbs me is the ones that applaud it and will try to muzzle the sheepdogs.
 
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Matt 7:15 "15 BEWARE of False prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. " The ones that will distort the message in the Word of God.
What disturbs me is the ones that applaud it and will try to muzzle the sheepdogs.

Such a fitting comment. You can go back to your kennel. This thread is sound. You are simply overreacting from the flesh...which began when one dog started barking...which sets off the other dogs.

You are free to bark of course.

Show from the bible you think you know...how it doesn't point to God...but rather to itself. And when does Jesus testify of the bible as the way, the truth and the life?

You are stuck with a book...that's all you have. No life.

But that book points to a living God. Seek while there is yet time.

You are so confused that you criticize pointing to God as disrespecting the bible...which is an idol to you.

The bible points to God.
 

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I took back a like on the rest of the post due to that wording, but the way I see people downgrade the Bible compared their own "revelation" truly concerns me.

Without an objective standard by which to compare ourselves, we compare ourselves by ourselves, and by each other, that that does not lead to good things, when everyone does what is right in their own eyes.

Too many people are too good at fooling themselves. My thinking anyway. But I'll never never set aside the Authority of the Bible.

Much love!
John 14.6 and John 17.17 are so clear... :)
 

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Believe God's Inspired(God Breathed) it is Eternal Living Truth!
Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 
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Such a fitting comment. You can go back to your kennel. This thread is sound. You are simply overreacting from the flesh...which began when one dog started barking...which sets off the other dogs.
You treat those who disagree with you as dogs.

:(

And when does Jesus testify of the bible as the way, the truth and the life?

Man does not live by bread alone . . . but by every word of God.

This was spoken by the Some One Who said, I am the bread of life.
 

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Believe God's Inspired(God Breathed) it is Eternal Living Truth!
Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Great verses there; and in Psalm 119 there are also other verses about the power of God's Word. :)
 

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Faith in the Lord Jesus implies faith in the Word of God ... and vice versa. :)
I don't see how you can separate one from the other. Now, If I become physically separated from my Bible, well, I still have managed to learn a good bit of it. But even so, God is always with me, fully. But even so still, He is the One Who wrote me that Book so I could know Him.

Much love!