The Fulfillment of the Seven Seals of Revelation

Taken · Jun 13, 2019

Soverign Grace said:
cgneustar has a valid point. People on here do love to argue - and put others down who they disagree with; sometimes in mean-spirited ways.

I somewhat agree with that.

"Thanks for sharing where you fit in and what you think of yourself." - is that how a follower of Christ is to talk to another believer Taken?

What offended you more, that he unwittingly included himself in his bashing of people that do not agree with him, or that I noticed and said something?

Galatians 6:1

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“Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”

Tempted to what?

John 13:34-35

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- A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

What is the point of posting that Verse?

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cgneustar · Jun 13, 2019

Davy said:
The Roman's sacrificed at the eastern gate (like your quote says), not inside the temple, because by then the temple had burned down:

The Jewish historian Josephus -

"7. And now, since Cæsar was no way able to restrain the enthusiastick fury of the soldiers, and the fire proceeded on more and more, he went into the holy place of the temple, with his commanders; and saw it, with what was in it: which he found to be far superior to what the relations of foreigners contained; and not inferior to what we ourselves boasted of, and believed about it. But as the flame had not as yet reached to its inward parts, but was still consuming the rooms that were about the holy house only; and Titus supposing, what the fact was, that the house it self might yet he saved, he came in haste, and endeavoured to persuade the soldiers to quench the fire; and gave order to Liberalius the centurion, and one of those spearmen that were about him, to beat the soldiers that were refractory with their staves; and to restrain them. Yet were their passions too hard for the regards they had for Cæsar, and the dread they had of him who forbad them: as was their hatred of the Jews, and a certain vehement inclination to fight them too hard for them also. Moreover, the hope of plunder induced many to go on; as having this opinion, that all the places within were full of money: and as seeing that all round about it was made of gold. And besides, one of those that went into the place prevented Cæsar, when he ran so hastily out to restrain the soldiers: and threw the fire upon the hinges of the gate, in the dark. Whereby the flame burst out from within the holy house itself immediately: when the commanders retired, and Cæsar with them; and when nobody any longer forbad those that were without to set fire to it. And thus was the holy house burnt down, without Cæsar’s approbation." (The Wars of The Jews, Josephus, Chapter 4.7)

The Daniel 11 events by the "vile person" requires a STANDING TEMPLE in Jerusalem, not one that burned down before the Romans could get control of it. Your theory is only interested in the Romans having done sacrifices anywhere in Jerusalem to try and prove Daniel 11 is history. Thus you're not following what Christ revealed about the future Daniel 11:31 event that is for the end of this world...

Matt 24:15
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
KJV

That holy place means in the temple, like what Antiochus Epiphanes did in 165 B.C. with sacrifices swine upon the altar and placing an idol abomination in Zeus worship.

The temple building does not need to exist for an "abomination of desolation" to be an "abomination of desolation", because Mount Moriah itself is set-apart ground, because that is where the temple building once stood that set that ground apart. That is why the abomination of desolation that was appointed to come after the 1,290 years of Daniel came not into fulfillment with a standing temple, but by the erection of the Dome of the Rock where the temple once stood, which is Mount Moriah, for the 1,290 year timeline began around 600 BC, which is one instance temple sacrifices stopped, which was around the beginning of the Babylonian captivity, to around 691 AD when the construction of the Dome of the Rock was completed, thus 1,290 years,

Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. He did evil in the eyes of Yehovah his God. Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon attacked him and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar also took to Babylon articles from the temple of Yehovah and put them in his temple there.
2 Chronicles 36:5-7

From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Daniel 12:11

And so, just as that abomination of desolation of the 1,290 year timeline came not with a standing temple, so in likewise manner the abomination of desolation of the Romans also may not have come into fulfillment with a standing temple either, although I suspect it did, because the details of what actually happened may have been lost with time, but we do have credible evidences that confirm that an abomination of desolation did occur by the hand of the Romans on Mount Moriah, for the eastern gate of the temple was indeed Mount Moriah, for that was the entrance to the temple itself where the altar and washing basin were, all in fulfillment of prophecy.

Soverign Grace · Jun 14, 2019

Taken said:
I somewhat agree with that.

What offended you more, that he unwittingly included himself in his bashing of people that do not agree with him, or that I noticed and said something?

Tempted to what?

What is the point of posting that Verse?

Glory to God,
Taken

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What offended me more was your treatment of him not aligning with the law of love.

Soverign Grace · Jun 14, 2019

Davy said:
Not yet.

Many today are deceived by what Paul meant with that 2 Thess.2 falling away. It's because of false doctrines being pushed about it in the Church. Paul gave that falling away event linked with the coming of the "man of sin" that will sit in a temple in Jerusalem (known as the temple of God in Paul's day), and will exalt himself as God, and over all that is called God, or that is worshiped. That is what will cause the great apostasy Paul was teaching there. This is why 2 Thess.2:9 about that false one working with all power and lying wonders is linked to the pseudo-Christ our Lord Jesus warned of in Matt.24:23-26 that is to come and do great signs and wonders. It's also linked to the 2nd beast of Rev.13:11 forward who is to come working miracles, raining fire from heaven down upon the earth in the sight of men.

So no, simply not going to Church and listening to the world today is not... the falling away of 2 Thess.2, even though it is going to lead to it. The coming Antichrist must be here, and in power over all nations like Revelation declares, for the real falling away to occur.

I'm not very well-versed in Revelations just yet as I have just begun a study of it - but I'll keep your warning in mind.

Davy · Jun 14, 2019

cgneustar said:
The temple building does not need to exist for an "abomination of desolation" to be an "abomination of desolation", because Mount Moriah itself is set-apart ground, because that is where the temple building once stood that set that ground apart. That is why the abomination of desolation that was appointed to come after the 1,290 years of Daniel came not into fulfillment with a standing temple, but by the erection of the Dome of the Rock where the temple once stood, which is Mount Moriah, for the 1,290 year timeline began around 600 BC, which is one instance temple sacrifices stopped, which was around the beginning of the Babylonian captivity, to around 691 AD when the construction of the Dome of the Rock was completed, thus 1,290 years,

Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years. He did evil in the eyes of Yehovah his God. Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon attacked him and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar also took to Babylon articles from the temple of Yehovah and put them in his temple there.
2 Chronicles 36:5-7

From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Daniel 12:11

And so, just as that abomination of desolation of the 1,290 year timeline came not with a standing temple, so in likewise manner the abomination of desolation of the Romans also may not have come into fulfillment with a standing temple either, although I suspect it did, because the details of what actually happened may have been lost with time, but we do have credible evidences that confirm that an abomination of desolation did occur by the hand of the Romans on Mount Moriah, for the eastern gate of the temple was indeed Mount Moriah, for that was the entrance to the temple itself where the altar and washing basin were, all in fulfillment of prophecy.

I've already given my reply and shown that the Romans did not fulfill the Daniel 11 prophecy of the "vile person".

Taken · Jun 15, 2019

Soverign Grace said:
What offended me more was your treatment of him not aligning with the law of love.

So, YOU were OFFENDED, by something I said to ANOTHER person?

WOW, I guess Jesus REALLY OFFENDED YOU when Jesus called the Pharisees HYPOCRITES!

Obviously you are unaware, Being Offended is between two parties....and YOU are the third wheel, (and irrelevant) in what was said between cegnustar and myself.

In other words, you supposedly being Offended, IS nothing for me to consider.

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