Can You Defeat the Spirit Within Me

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

That to which is in me is greater
than anything that is within you.
And I am here to prove it
on your Christian debate forum.

I will debate all that will try to defeat
that to which is in me.

I shall post that to which the Spirit within me
instructs me and then debate any that
try to defeat me.

Or you can post whatever the spirit or spirits in you instruct you
and I will defeat you by the Spirit within me.

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

Do you believe
that the children of Light
born of the Almighty Living God Most High
by His Living Water and His Holy Spirit
would fight among themselves
and do evil to each other as the children of the devil?

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

Jesus Christ
which are the seven
Spirits of God

Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the earth.

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

If I have the Holy Ghost dwelling within me.
Then why would I have to have anyone
pray for me?

Would I not always be in direct contact
with God by His own Spirit within me
at all times day and night?

So if you have the Holy Ghost within you then
why would you have to have anyone pray for you?

Did Jesus ask anyone to pray for Him?

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

If I have the Holy Ghost dwelling within me.
Why would I need to enter into God's presence.
His presence would always be in me.

So if you have the Holy Ghost within you then
why would you need to enter into God's presence.
His presence would always be in you.

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

If I have the Holy Ghost dwelling within me.
Then why would I have to try the spirits
to know if they are of God?

The Spirit of God dwells within me.
The Spirit of God knows that which is of God and
that which is not of God.

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

The Holy Ghost within me cannot be deceived.
At any time no matter whatsoever.

Therefore I cannot be deceived If I
have the Holy Ghost dwelling within me.
No matter whatsoever.

How are you deceived with the
indwelling of the Holy Ghost?

Heart2Soul · Jun 16, 2019

TROLL ALERT!

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
TROLL ALERT!

You do not have to alert me.
I knew you were a troll a long time ago.

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
TROLL ALERT!

Tell me something
the Spirit in me wants to know
what is the difference between what you post on here
and what a troll will post on this forum.

What differentiates you from them?
Your holiness?

Is it because you have more wisdom than them?
Is it because you have more faith than them?
Is it because your goods work sets you apart from them on the forum?

Seriously
we want to know?

st3712 · Jun 16, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
TROLL ALERT!

It's alright
I know why you do not want me to post on this forum.
I do not hold it against you.

And if you believe I am a troll
then that would speak really bad for you
since that to which is in a troll is greater than that to which is in you.

st3712 · Jun 17, 2019

The Spirit of God
is that to which interprets
the word of God.

The Spirit of God
is the life of the word of God.

Without the Spirit of God
the word of God would be dead.

So please explain to me
why you believe that lie that
Scripture interprets Scripture?

The Spirit of God interprets Scripture.

icxn · Jun 17, 2019

st3712 said:
...Or you can post whatever the spirit or spirits in you instruct you and I will defeat you by the Spirit within me.

Certain words from Laozi come to mind:

Overcome by yielding
The weak can overcome the strong
For only absence can provide
The place where everything belongs

And thus it is that I can see
The worthiness of not contending
Yet few will ever comprehend
The potency of bending
...
Nothing is softer or more yielding than water.
Yet, given time, it can erode even the hardest stone.
That’s how the weak can defeat the strong,
and the supple can win out over the stiff.

Everybody knows it.
So why don’t we apply it to our own lives?

Therefore the sage says:
“Only he* who is the lowest servant of the kingdom,
is worthy to become its ruler.
He who is willing to tackle the most unpleasant tasks,
is the best ruler in the world.”

True words seem paradoxical.

________
* Christ that is (Matthew 11:11)

GTW27 · Jun 17, 2019

st3712 said:
If I have the Holy Ghost dwelling within me.
Then why would I have to have anyone
pray for me?

Would I not always be in direct contact
with God by His own Spirit within me
at all times day and night?

So if you have the Holy Ghost within you then
why would you have to have anyone pray for you?

Did Jesus ask anyone to pray for Him?

For 3 nights I have prayed for you, even before you came in this form, this time. So you see, you will be the winner, and I will be the loser, and that will be for your sake. Whom has taught me such things. It is not about us verses them, it is about us for them. Look at the cross and what happened there.

Taken · Jun 17, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
TROLL ALERT!

Hi H2S ~ I don't think GTW27 is a Troll ~

Rather I think he is challenging what "Converted IN Christ" Christians are regularly taught and Do.

IMO He is highlighting/ point to/ the "NEW CREATURE "heart-set" IN CHRIST" who seemingly maintains a "OLD CREATURE" "mind-set".

Glory to God,
Taken

Heart2Soul · Jun 17, 2019

Taken said:
Hi H2S ~ I don't think GTW27 is a Troll ~

Rather I think he is challenging what "Converted IN Christ" Christians are regularly taught and Do.

IMO He is highlighting/ point to/ the "NEW CREATURE "heart-set" IN CHRIST" who seemingly maintains a "OLD CREATURE" "mind-set".

Glory to God,
Taken

I know he isn't, that was a reply to st3712

Taken · Jun 17, 2019

st3712 said:
Jesus Christ
which are the seven
Spirits of God

Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the earth.

The SEVEN Spirits of God...
Rev 5:6 is a perspective of the Seven Spirits of God, IN HEAVEN, to which our Earthly EYES are not Privy to SEE.

The SEVEN Spirits of God...
Isa 11:3
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, thespirit of wisdom and spirit of understanding, the spirit ofcounsel and spirit of might, the spirit of knowledge and of the spirit of fear of the LORD;

THESE Seven Spirit of God, were all foretold in Isaiah to BE and BE UPON "Jesus".

Isa 11:2
[1] And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: <---> His Name; Jesus

The Spirit (POWER) of God...<-->
His Name; JESUS, His Title; CHRIST.
His POWER "and" Authority to "GIVE that SAME SPIRIT", unto men CONVERTED "IN" Christ, "On Earth".

1 Cor 1
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

TO THEM...which are called "IN CHRIST"...
The diversities of gifts of the SAME ONE Spirit, given, unto men, VIA Christ, The Power of God.

1 Cor 12
[4] Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[5] And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
[6] And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7] But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10] To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11] But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Glory to God,
Taken

Taken · Jun 17, 2019

Heart2Soul said:
I know he isn't, that was a reply to st3712

My error, should have said st3712.
He is the one challenging, IMO, not a troll.

I get his point.

Being "IF" one "IS" Converted, they ARE "NOT the OLD Creature"...yet seemingly continue to DO things, AS IF they ARE the Same OLD Creature.

Glory to God,
Taken

st3712 · Jun 17, 2019

Taken said:
My error, should have said st3712.
He is the one challenging, IMO, not a troll.

I get his point.

Being "IF" one "IS" Converted, they ARE "NOT the OLD Creature"...yet seemingly continue to DO things, AS IF they ARE the Same OLD Creature.

Glory to God,
Taken

How can any one be a new creature
when they are still in the same old dying body
that is still under the law of sin and death?

Please explain it to me.

st3712 · Jun 17, 2019

Taken said:
The SEVEN Spirits of God...
Rev 5:6 is a perspective of the Seven Spirits of God, IN HEAVEN, to which our Earthly EYES are not Privy to SEE.

The SEVEN Spirits of God...
Isa 11:3
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, thespirit of wisdom and spirit of understanding, the spirit ofcounsel and spirit of might, the spirit of knowledge and of the spirit of fear of the LORD;

THESE Seven Spirit of God, were all foretold in Isaiah to BE and BE UPON "Jesus".

Isa 11:2
[1] And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: <---> His Name; Jesus

The Spirit (POWER) of God...<-->
His Name; JESUS, His Title; CHRIST.
His POWER "and" Authority to "GIVE that SAME SPIRIT", unto men CONVERTED "IN" Christ, "On Earth".

1 Cor 1
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

TO THEM...which are called "IN CHRIST"...
The diversities of gifts of the SAME ONE Spirit, given, unto men, VIA Christ, The Power of God.

1 Cor 12
[4] Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[5] And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
[6] And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7] But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10] To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11] But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Glory to God,
Taken

How come you do not believe Revelation 5:6 word for word as it is written by the author
and why have you replaced it with your own interpretation?

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