Reparations for slavery

Willie T · Jun 21, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
Remember, in your life you had all the good things

Get serious. Every one of those supposed "poor and held down" Black politicians you see crying on TV is making almost $200,000 a year (your tax money), and the righteous "preachers", undoubtedly far more. Al & Jessie aren't poor.

bbyrd009 · Jun 21, 2019

Willie T said:
Get serious. Every one of those supposed "poor and held down" Black politicians you see crying on TV is making almost $200,000 a year (your tax money), and the righteous "preachers", undoubtedly far more. Al & Jessie aren't poor.

Idc about themin the world at all Willie, that's where stranger's heart is, not mine, i don't think they are representative of blacks but more like opportunists anyway? Bottom feeders?

Willie T said:
Get serious. Every one of those supposed "poor and held down" Black politicians you see crying on TV is making almost $200,000 a year (your tax money), and the righteous "preachers", undoubtedly far more. Al & Jessie aren't poor.

and i don't pay taxes, i would rather starve or even die

bbyrd009 · Jun 21, 2019

Willie T said:
Black politicians

What do they have to do with actual black ppl?

Are they advocating this reparations thing, i take it? Ok yes i agree they are idiots, but i def see parallels to believers accepting the White Jesus too ok

Willie T · Jun 21, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
Idc about themin the world at all Willie, that's where stranger's heart is, not mine, i don't think they are representative of blacks but more like opportunists anyway? Bottom feeders?
and i don't pay taxes, i would rather starve or even die

Then I guess the rest of us are supporting you too. So, of course you are all for the Freebie System.

bbyrd009 · Jun 21, 2019

Willie T said:
Then I guess the rest of us are supporting you too. So, of course you are all for the Freebie System.

Ha you'd think so, huh? The spiritual one yes, the literal one no, i agree with you guys there, bad idea.
Imo don't worry, US is completely bankrupt anyway, the whole point is to get ppl up in arms over vapor anyway imo. No one supports me financially though fwiw, i do quite nicely trading!

aspen · Jun 21, 2019

I was going to comment, but I am not racist

Taken · Jun 21, 2019

Reparations for Slavery <--- OP

BY WHOM TO WHOM ?

By Citizens of an African Country, warring against another African Country, that captured prisoners and traded or sold them as Slaves?

By the Buyer or Trader of Slaves With African Countires that inturn Sold or Traded the Slaves to Other Tribes, Colonies, Countries?

Pretty Sure Those Buyers and Traders are all Dead.
So, WHO is proposing Descendants of THOSE Buyers and Traders are Responsible for the Actions of THEIR Anscestors?

And SHALL EACH person Requesting Reparations BE Required to have a FACTUAL HISTORY of WHO IN AFRICA, Imprisoned, Stole, Kidnapped, Traded or Sold their Ancestor?

And SHALL the Reparations being Suggested IN AMERICA, BE DETERMINED Soley on SKIN COLOR?

Is it pre-determined that EVERY SINGLE BLACK Person IN America, IS Descended FROM a SLAVE?

And WHO shall MAKE such Reparations?

All White People in America?
The US Government?

Not ALL White People in America have a History of having traded or bought slaves.

And When did the US Government trade for or Buy Slaves?

And HOW is the determination made FOR Black people from foreign countries, Including Countries IN AFRICA, who WILLINGLY came to America Figure in this seemingly supposed Blanket Reparations scheme?

And WHAT about the Blacks IN America who OWNED Black Slaves? Shall they BE PAYING their own Descendants Reparations?

And WHAT about Whites that were imprisoned in EUROPE, and sent as Indentured Servants under the King of England, King of France and King of Spain to the land across the Pond, famously mapped out by Italian Amerigo Vespucci (and namesake of America)...Shall their Descendants in America get in on the booty of Reparations?

Numerous countries from every civilized continent have kept people from their freedom in bondage as prisoners, as servants, as slaves... without parting gifts of reparations once no longer in bondage...
What is so unique and special about black skinned persons in the US...?

The black skinned Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's who have FOR decades, front and center spearheaded oppression of Black-Skinned Americans? And the rest of the Liberal Democrats who promote Black Americans are too stupid and ignorant to be Free to take care of themselves without a Government Master?

Glory to God,
Taken

Willie T · Jun 21, 2019

Taken said:
Reparations for Slavery <--- OP

BY WHOM TO WHOM ?

By Citizens of an African Country, warring against another African Country, that captured prisoners and traded or sold them as Slaves?

By the Buyer or Trader of Slaves With African Countires that inturn Sold or Traded the Slaves to Other Tribes, Colonies, Countries?

Pretty Sure Those Buyers and Traders are all Dead.
So, WHO is proposing Descendants of THOSE Buyers and Traders are Responsible for the Actions of THEIR Anscestors?

And SHALL EACH person Requesting Reparations BE Required to have a FACTUAL HISTORY of WHO IN AFRICA, Imprisoned, Stole, Kidnapped, Traded or Sold their Ancestor?

And SHALL the Reparations being Suggested IN AMERICA, BE DETERMINED Soley on SKIN COLOR?

Is it pre-determined that EVERY SINGLE BLACK Person IN America, IS Descended FROM a SLAVE?

And WHO shall MAKE such Reparations?

All White People in America?
The US Government?

Not ALL White People in America have a History of having traded or bought slaves.

And When did the US Government trade for or Buy Slaves?

And HOW is the determination made FOR Black people from foreign countries, Including Countries IN AFRICA, who WILLINGLY came to America Figure in this seemingly supposed Blanket Reparations scheme?

And WHAT about the Blacks IN America who OWNED Black Slaves? Shall they BE PAYING their own Descendants Reparations?

And WHAT about Whites that were imprisoned in EUROPE, and sent as Indentured Servants under the King of England, King of France and King of Spain to the land across the Pond, famously mapped out by Italian Amerigo Vespucci (and namesake of America)...Shall their Descendants in America get in on the booty of Reparations?

Numerous countries from every civilized continent have kept people from their freedom in bondage as prisoners, as servants, as slaves... without parting gifts of reparations once no longer in bondage...
What is so unique and special about black skinned persons in the US...?

The black skinned Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's who have FOR decades, front and center spearheaded oppression of Black-Skinned Americans? And the rest of the Liberal Democrats who promote Black Americans are too stupid and ignorant to be Free to take care of themselves without a Government Master?

Glory to God,
Taken

Excellent post !!!!!

Stranger · Jun 21, 2019

Taken said:
Reparations for Slavery <--- OP

BY WHOM TO WHOM ?

By Citizens of an African Country, warring against another African Country, that captured prisoners and traded or sold them as Slaves?

By the Buyer or Trader of Slaves With African Countires that inturn Sold or Traded the Slaves to Other Tribes, Colonies, Countries?

Pretty Sure Those Buyers and Traders are all Dead.
So, WHO is proposing Descendants of THOSE Buyers and Traders are Responsible for the Actions of THEIR Anscestors?

And SHALL EACH person Requesting Reparations BE Required to have a FACTUAL HISTORY of WHO IN AFRICA, Imprisoned, Stole, Kidnapped, Traded or Sold their Ancestor?

And SHALL the Reparations being Suggested IN AMERICA, BE DETERMINED Soley on SKIN COLOR?

Is it pre-determined that EVERY SINGLE BLACK Person IN America, IS Descended FROM a SLAVE?

And WHO shall MAKE such Reparations?

All White People in America?
The US Government?

Not ALL White People in America have a History of having traded or bought slaves.

And When did the US Government trade for or Buy Slaves?

And HOW is the determination made FOR Black people from foreign countries, Including Countries IN AFRICA, who WILLINGLY came to America Figure in this seemingly supposed Blanket Reparations scheme?

And WHAT about the Blacks IN America who OWNED Black Slaves? Shall they BE PAYING their own Descendants Reparations?

And WHAT about Whites that were imprisoned in EUROPE, and sent as Indentured Servants under the King of England, King of France and King of Spain to the land across the Pond, famously mapped out by Italian Amerigo Vespucci (and namesake of America)...Shall their Descendants in America get in on the booty of Reparations?

Numerous countries from every civilized continent have kept people from their freedom in bondage as prisoners, as servants, as slaves... without parting gifts of reparations once no longer in bondage...
What is so unique and special about black skinned persons in the US...?

The black skinned Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's who have FOR decades, front and center spearheaded oppression of Black-Skinned Americans? And the rest of the Liberal Democrats who promote Black Americans are too stupid and ignorant to be Free to take care of themselves without a Government Master?

Glory to God,
Taken

Blacks go for reparations where reparations can be found. They don't go to try and right a wrong in a country. They go where they can get a piece of the pie. If no pie is there, forget it.

Perfect example: South Africa and the so called 'right reverend tutu'. My oh my how he clamoured for the blacks under Apartheid. Why? Because look at what blacks could gain by taking over the white civilization. Then look at Rowanda, where thousands of blacks were butchered by other blacks. Gee, I didn't hear any thing of the 'right reverend' tutu. Why? What was there to gain? Nothing. The idea of right or wrong was immaterial. There was nothing to gain.

Blacks will milk the slavery cow for as much as they can. And stupid white people will let them and consider it such glory for mankind.

Look at South Africa now. Oh wait...look at Detroit.

Stranger

Stranger · Jun 21, 2019

Enoch111 said:
How it it that Sharpton has not been locked up already, along with all the other schemers who have been blatantly using the black population for their own agendas?

The same reason they let OJ free. Blacks don't care if it is right or wrong. Only if it's black. Oh...but don't call them racist. That is only for the white man.

Stranger

Taken · Jun 21, 2019

Stranger said:
Blacks go for reparations where reparations can be found.

Today, it is not about Slavery, or Blacks...
Blacks, White, Hispanics, Arabs, whomever living in the US who fall for the Liberal Democrap Promoting, to sign up and "MAKE" the Government your DADDY, and LINE UP as "THEIR BURDEN" to "RECEIVE THEIR Confiscated SCRAP handouts"....
HAS BECOME an American phenomena...

Free People, ha!
A Free people is Liberty to take care of oneself...
Not a free ride to a government office to get freebies of something for nothing.

They don't go to try and right a wrong in a country. They go where they can get a piece of the pie. If no pie is there, forget it.

As long as there are Liberal Communists sitting in seats of US Law making authority;
The door to sign up as a Government DEPENDENT will remain opened.

Perfect example: South Africa and the so called 'right reverend tutu'. My oh my how he clamoured for the blacks under Apartheid. Why? Because look at what blacks could gain by taking over the white civilization. Then look at Rowanda, where thousands of blacks were butchered by other blacks. Gee, I didn't hear any thing of the 'right reverend' tutu. Why? What was there to gain? Nothing. The idea of right or wrong was immaterial. There was nothing to gain.

Blacks will milk the slavery cow for as much as they can. And stupid white people will let them and consider it such glory for mankind.

Look at South Africa now. Oh wait...look at Detroit.

Right.
I would say, a great number of Blacks have NO CLUE, Blacks in America OWNED Black Slaves....
Or...
That There are hundreds of narratives OF FORMER Black Slaves, Whose own Voice was Heard, recorded, complied and available for reading....and they sound NOTHING like what Blacks today are saying.

It's the immature mind-set.
When one is immature, ignorant of reasoning, and handed everything for nothing...they are not equipped to prize and take care of what they are given, and like you are talking about, it becomes an endless Expectation of endless Giving, Giving, Giving.

Glory to God,
Taken

Taken · Jun 21, 2019

Stranger said:
The same reason they let OJ free. Blacks don't care if it is right or wrong. Only if it's black. Oh...but don't call them racist. That is only for the white man.

Stranger

That's kind of funny...

Some of the FAVORITE name calling that is "supposed" to get a white person ALL distracted
From a point to a Defense and Apologetic...ie.

Racist, Bigots, Haters, Intolerant, Discriminatory, Judgemental, Wealthy, White..

Isn't ILLEGAL...and has no cause FOR a defense or apology.

Glory to God,
Taken

Enoch111 · Jun 21, 2019

aspen said:
I was going to comment, but I am not racist

If you are not racist you should be prepared to condemn Black Racism as much as White Racism. Or does it only go one way?

Not all blacks but SCHEMING BLACKS have been using the race card to further their own personal agenda, e.g. Barack Obama. They give a hoot about the welfare of the black population. And everyone else should be prepared to call them out on their Black Racism.

Black Americans have made tremendous progress since the last century, and had it not been for the BLACK MANIPULATORS, there would have been peace and harmony among the various ethnic groups in the USA. But Barack and Michelle Obama (along with their co-conspirators such as Holder, Lynch, etc.) were schemers and manipulators, and they played the race card like a violin. And all the white politicians simply sat back and said not a word. All were cowards and traitors.

Americans should understand that Open Borders is actually an attack against the black population, just like Planned Parenthood which promotes their genocide. But there need to be dozens of leading Black voices making this known to their own people.

Phoneman777 · Jun 22, 2019

Stranger said:
This is rich stuff any way you look at it. All them yankees beating down the South for slavery. They support the blacks in tearing down our monuments, our flags, our songs, anything Southern. Now, you get to pay for it.

Yep, all them blacks are wanting you to give them money for their ancestors being slaves. of course it is just the blacks that were descended from slaves. And how many do you think that will be? About 120% I would say.

What is Corey Booker up to? Please. He is buying votes. He has made the division that if you don't give blacks money then you are the opposition. And he is for giving the blacks the money. Are there any blacks who would turn that down? No. Like I said, 120%.

The liberal left is buying Mexican votes for immigration in declaring health care for illegals or drivers license. Now it is buying votes for blacks...reparations.

What reparations are there going to be for the American Indian? What reparations are there going to be for the Southern White civilian People who the yankees made war against when they found it too costly to fight the Southern men?

Oh yes, we all got reparations coming. But only if your black do you have any chance of getting it.

Stranger

After almost 60 years of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, I'd say Afro Americans have been paid back in spades.

60 yrs of Afro Americans beating out Anglos for jobs for which they were less qualified.
60 yrs of Afro Americans beating out Anglos for promotions for which they were less qualified.
60 yrs of Afro Americans over bidding by 10% Anglo bids on govt. contracts yet landing the contract.
60 yrs of Afro American students with lower entrance scores beating out smarter Anglo/Asian kids.
60 yrs of Afro American stratospheric pro-rata (NOT PER CAPITA) welfare compensation by Anglo taxpayers

It's time to hang up Identity Politics and lets all be AMERICANS (is it too much to ask that we all be CHRISTIAN Americans?)

Phoneman777 · Jun 22, 2019

Enoch111 said:
1. First of all a civil war that took tens of thousands of lives for nothing, was a very stupid idea (with all due respect to Abraham Lincoln).

'The Civil War was America's bloodiest conflict. The unprecedented violence of battles such as Shiloh, Antietam, Stones River, and Gettysburg shocked citizens and international observers alike. Nearly as many men died in captivity during the Civil War as were killed in the whole of the Vietnam War. Hundreds of thousands died of disease. Roughly 2% of the population, an estimated 620,000 men, lost their lives in the line of duty. Taken as a percentage of today's population, the toll would have risen as high as 6 million souls.'
Civil War Casualties

It achieved nothing, destroyed the South, and gave the rascals on both sides free rein to loot and pillage innocents. William Quantrill's Lawrence Massacre is well-known for the murder of innocents. There is debate as to whether he was "an opportunistic bandit or a legitimate partisan".

2. Had the federal government simply negotiated with the slave owners, compensated them fairly with cash, and then made proper arrangements for all those who had been emancipated to be resettled and have their own productive settlements, it would have cost far less in cash and human lives.

3. The federal government did not even have a solid plan to rehabilitate emancipated slaves, just like they failed to give the Native Americans a fair deal at that time. So while they were fighting a war to free black slaves, they were creating red slaves on wretched reservations. More stupidity.

4. Large numbers of blacks were encouraged to be unproductive by putting them on welfare, rather than creating meaningful jobs and giving them an opportunity to work for other blacks or go into business for themselves. The so-called "War on Poverty" did little or nothing to alleviate poverty.

5. More recently, scheming black politicians failed to follow the example of Booker T. Washington who did something constructive for his people, and instead they made sure that blacks destroyed themselves in the ghettos. Today, both blacks and whites should read Up from Slavery by Washington, and apply his ideas. He was well-respected by both blacks and whites (unlike Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton).

Today, the plantation is the Democrat Party. The cotton they pick is the welfare check in the mailbox. And the ripping apart of families like unto the days of the plantation is now accomplished via a welfare system which demands Afro American fathers be absent from the home of his children and their mother.

Stranger · Jun 22, 2019

Phoneman777 said:
After almost 60 years of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, I'd say Afro Americans have been paid back in spades.

60 yrs of Afro Americans beating out Anglos for jobs for which they were less qualified.
60 yrs of Afro Americans beating out Anglos for promotions for which they were less qualified.
60 yrs of Afro Americans over bidding by 10% Anglo bids on govt. contracts yet landing the contract.
60 yrs of Afro American students with lower entrance scores beating out smarter Anglo/Asian kids.
60 yrs of Afro American stratospheric pro-rata (NOT PER CAPITA) welfare compensation by Anglo taxpayers

It's time to hang up Identity Politics and lets all be AMERICANS (is it too much to ask that we all be CHRISTIAN Americans?)

This is true. They have been more than paid back. But, why did they ever need to be paid back at all. Who gave them the green light to a silver spoon in their mouth. As I indicated, there will never be enough. They always need an excuse. They need someone to blame for their condition. They refuse as a race to stand up. They refuse to own up to their failure as a people. Much easier to say the white man owes me.

There is no us being all Americans any more. The divide is too great. Those who are Americans need to learn that.

Stranger

Soverign Grace · Jun 23, 2019

Stranger said:
This is rich stuff any way you look at it. All them yankees beating down the South for slavery. They support the blacks in tearing down our monuments, our flags, our songs, anything Southern. Now, you get to pay for it.

Yep, all them blacks are wanting you to give them money for their ancestors being slaves. of course it is just the blacks that were descended from slaves. And how many do you think that will be? About 120% I would say.

What is Corey Booker up to? Please. He is buying votes. He has made the division that if you don't give blacks money then you are the opposition. And he is for giving the blacks the money. Are there any blacks who would turn that down? No. Like I said, 120%.

The liberal left is buying Mexican votes for immigration in declaring health care for illegals or drivers license. Now it is buying votes for blacks...reparations.

What reparations are there going to be for the American Indian? What reparations are there going to be for the Southern White civilian People who the yankees made war against when they found it too costly to fight the Southern men?

Oh yes, we all got reparations coming. But only if your black do you have any chance of getting it.

Stranger

Cory Booker is a lunatic on every issue. You wonder how these people get into office. I have a tendency to believe that our votes aren't counted anymore. I read that people are "placed" into office over us.

I think I read that the 13 families are fomenting civil war between the blacks, whites, and Mexicans. Have you seen what they're doing in South Africa? Taking whites property and giving it to blacks.

Slavery was an ugly part of American history, and I'm not sure if they're due anything or not - I never thought about it. But reparations can be due to a lot of people: as you said the Indians, what about women? We were denied the right to vote years back so shouldn't we get reparations? What about the Irish? They were turned away from jobs and their families went hungry. What about the middle easteners - Trump vilified them - shouldn't they get reparations? What about the disabled - they were denied access to buildings for years.

I don't know the answer but it seems like if you open the door then it's going to spread.

Soverign Grace · Jun 23, 2019

Stranger said:
This is true. They have been more than paid back. But, why did they ever need to be paid back at all. Who gave them the green light to a silver spoon in their mouth. As I indicated, there will never be enough. They always need an excuse. They need someone to blame for their condition. They refuse as a race to stand up. They refuse to own up to their failure as a people. Much easier to say the white man owes me.

There is no us being all Americans any more. The divide is too great. Those who are Americans need to learn that.

Stranger

The illuminati are fomenting an attack on whites - particularly white men. The current opioid epidemic is an attack on white men - the biggest user of drugs are white males. The epidemic is caused by illicit drugs flooding in from Mexico - not by doctors and their prescription pads. A group I belong to investigated this at length. The illuminati want to destroy white men and flood the country with low intelligence migrants (this is THEIR stated goal) They urge women to have babies by black men. Their ideas are that mixed race people are docile and unintelligent. There is a real war on and we would do well to alert those who are yet unaware of it. There are now only approximately 6% of whites worldwide.

The Vatic Project: The Racist Illuminati War on White Society

There is a real war on against white, heterosexual males. Hollywood is leading the charge. I watch Hollywood celebrity shows now and then just to see what's being pandered to the young and one after another celebrity got before the cameras to gush about the gay community. Our news is owned by our government and there is mass mind control. I believe that it is our duty as Christians to see that the truth is known since so many Americans are the walking dead. I did a little experiment and when I'm out I chat with people. It's amazing that they're up on their latest sports team, or the latest TV sitcoms, but mention politics and you get that far-off stare. It really frightens me that people are so much like cattle.

The Plot to Dispossess White Males by Henry Makow, PhD (Feb. 6, 2019)

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/c...uncil On Foreign Relations by Myron Fagan.pdf

JohnPaul · Jun 23, 2019

Stranger said:
This is rich stuff any way you look at it. All them yankees beating down the South for slavery. They support the blacks in tearing down our monuments, our flags, our songs, anything Southern. Now, you get to pay for it.

Yep, all them blacks are wanting you to give them money for their ancestors being slaves. of course it is just the blacks that were descended from slaves. And how many do you think that will be? About 120% I would say.

What is Corey Booker up to? Please. He is buying votes. He has made the division that if you don't give blacks money then you are the opposition. And he is for giving the blacks the money. Are there any blacks who would turn that down? No. Like I said, 120%.

The liberal left is buying Mexican votes for immigration in declaring health care for illegals or drivers license. Now it is buying votes for blacks...reparations.

What reparations are there going to be for the American Indian? What reparations are there going to be for the Southern White civilian People who the yankees made war against when they found it too costly to fight the Southern men?

Oh yes, we all got reparations coming. But only if your black do you have any chance of getting it.

Stranger

Corey Booker is a fake like all other politicians, I lived in Newark when he was mayor he did nothing for the community or his people, the only prosperous part of Newark, is or was the Ironbound section of Newark, made up of white European descendants of Irish, Portuguese, Italian and Polish peoples. The rest of Newark is a war zone, like Camden and Trenton.

Enoch111 · Jun 23, 2019

Stranger said:
But, why did they ever need to be paid back at all.

The fact is that the Union (northern states) wanted to abolish slavery, but they did not see the economic impact on the southern states. As usual politicians made a mess of everything. The slave owners should have been offered fair (and even better than fair) compensation for losing their slaves.

At the same time, since the slaves would be losing their source of survival they should have been offered compensation as well as an opportunity to be rehabilitated and to establish themselves as free people. So to answer your question, some kind of compensation to both parties was essential.

But that is all for the past. Talk of reparations today is just a political ploy.

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