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I have NO CLUE (actually I do have a suspicion) WHY people want to denigrate GOD's Word because SOME people don't know what they're talking about, but they blather none the less ( = ALL THE MORE).

So if a person looks at all the FAILED expectations, does that mean that SCRIPTURE is wrong? Well, by inference, -- I guess so. But that's not correct.

We have to look at the TRUTH of Scripture to discover where a person went wrong with his/her expectation and either set that passage aside until it can be CORRECTLY interpreted:

Dan. 12
4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

... or CORRECTLY interpret the passage because it CAN be correctly interpreted:

Dan. 12
4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.


Bible prophecy is REAL easy in hindsight, and FAIRLY easy in foresight, if you know what you're talking about. But not many people know what they're taking about ... :)


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GINOLJC, to all

addressing the OP, no it's man, not the scriptures, that has fail. but not all men and women. there are some men and women who speak truth and know not to speak what no man knows. it is only the charlatans who have a mouth that speak lies. they act and try to look like a horn, but is a dragon based messenger, knownly or not.

but as you said, "Bible prophecy is REAL". the spirit world is nothing to play with.

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So I guess the NEWS is SPLASHED with a MAJOR Bible Prophecy about to be fulfilled, but is anyone home? Is anyone listening? Is anyone perceiving?

I think not ...


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I have NO CLUE (actually I do have a suspicion) WHY people want to denigrate GOD's Word because SOME people don't know what they're talking about, but they blather none the less ( = ALL THE MORE).

So if a person looks at all the FAILED expectations, does that mean that SCRIPTURE is wrong? Well, by inference, -- I guess so. But that's not correct.

We have to look at the TRUTH of Scripture to discover where a person went wrong with his/her expectation and either set that passage aside until it can be CORRECTLY interpreted:

Dan. 12
4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.

... or CORRECTLY interpret the passage because it CAN be correctly interpreted:

Dan. 12
4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.


Bible prophecy is REAL easy in hindsight, and FAIRLY easy in foresight, if you know what you're talking about. But not many people know what they're taking about ... :)


Bobby Jo

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Bobby Jo

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Bobby Jo said:
Bible prophecy is REAL easy in hindsight, and FAIRLY easy in foresight, if you know what you're talking about. But not many people know what they're taking about ... :)



Case in POINT! :)

Ignorant, and apparently content in ignorance! :)


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Bobby Jo said:
Bible prophecy is REAL easy in hindsight, and FAIRLY easy in foresight, if you know what you're talking about. But not many people know what they're taking about ... :)


Case in POINT! :)

Ignorant, and apparently content in ignorance! :)


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Nah... my reply was to match the joke of your OP with such a silly double quote from Daniel 12 for no reason.
 

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Why don't you just create a thread which is devoted to "CREATIVE WAYS TO INSULT CHRISTIANS"?

All you posts are devoted to insults, so you might as well show us your expertise in this specialty.

Ignorance is, as ignorance does. So I guess rather than addressing why the commentators DEFIED the angel's instructions, you divert to a personal opinion. That would seem to demonstrate that you're ignorant on the subject, but blather none the less -- or ALL THE MORE. :)


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Nah... my reply was to match the joke of your OP with such a silly double quote from Daniel 12 for no reason.

When your commentators don't make sense, consider their disobedience to 12: 4 & 9.

When you attempt to make sense of Scripture and History consider obeying 12:4 & 9. -- Wait a minute, did I actually propose that you would actually DO SOMETHING?!? Silly me. :)


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Defaulting to what other people say, -- apparently one-third of the Bible is prophetic. And given this apparent perspective, Bible Prophecy MUST be quite important for GOD to have given such a great emphasis to such a disregarded aspect for the church. Oooooooh, it's too scary. I don't know if I can understand it. I'm afraid it's too much for me to have to think.

It's not just individuals, it's pastors, teachers, evangelists, -- christians in general.

People say that experience is the best teacher. That's a lie. Experience is the WORSE teacher because it gives you the test before it gives you the lesson. So you can either receive the lesson of what's going to happen before it happens, through Bible Prophecy; or your can fail the test.


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Are we ready for ANOTHER Fulfilled Prophecy?

It's right straight ahead, and it appears it will involve Iran. The only criteria we're waiting for is the attack by -- possibly Iran or even Russia -- to target a nation "without walls", typical of Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, or even Kuwait.

Keep watching the NEWS. We should see it certainly this summer, and maybe within a few weeks. We'll find out!


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Ezekiel 38
10 “Thus says the Lord God: On that day thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages; I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates’; 12 to seize spoil and carry off plunder ...

Coming to a theater near you!
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Are we ready for ANOTHER Fulfilled Prophecy?

It's right straight ahead, and it appears it will involve Iran. The only criteria we're waiting for is the attack by -- possibly Iran or even Russia -- to target a nation "without walls", typical of Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, or even Kuwait.

Keep watching the NEWS. We should see it certainly this summer, and maybe within a few weeks. We'll find out!


Bobby Jo
Rather obvious that you are wrong; the Gog/Magog attack is against the people living in the holy Land. Ezekiel 38-39, Joel 2:20
And it isn't against the current citizens, as they will all be gone after the Sixth Seal event depopulates the entire ME region. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 21:1-7, 30:1-5, +
You; like many, simply don't see how all the Lord's faithful Christian people will inhabit all of the holy Land in the end times. Daniel 7:23 and Revelation 13:7 proves they are there when the AC has world control for the final 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns.
WE are the people referred to in Isaiah 62:1-5, and Romans 9:24-26....in the same place....
 

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Rather obvious that you are wrong; ...

Well I've been wrong a lot of times. But I don't think GOD is wrong:

Ezekiel 38
10 “Thus says the Lord God: On that day thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages;


So what will start in another location (possibly Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, etc.), will end up throughout an entire region, including Israel.


Please recall that Israel built a WALL which security exceeds the Great Wall of China. :)
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Well I've been wrong a lot of times. But I don't think GOD is wrong:

Ezekiel 38
10 “Thus says the Lord God: On that day thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme 11 and say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages;


So what will start in another location (possibly Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, etc.), will end up throughout an entire region, including Israel.


Please recall that Israel built a WALL which security exceeds the Great Wall of China. :)
Bobby Jo
What you don't mention is those people are in the holy Land soon after it is ruined and destroyed. Ezekiel 38:8
The terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, the Psalms 83, Malachi 4:1-3, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:12-17, + will flatten that wall, the Dome of the Rock, etc, and depopulate the entire area.
This is confirmed by Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 20:34, Zechariah 9:14-17, +
 

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What you don't mention is those people are in the holy Land soon after it is ruined and destroyed. ...

"... what will start in another location (possibly Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, etc.), will end up throughout an entire region, including Israel."


Huh! -- It seems I did account for Israel's participation, which will include their use of nuclear weapons! :)
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"... what will start in another location (possibly Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, etc.), will end up throughout an entire region, including Israel."


Huh! -- It seems I did account for Israel's participation, which will include their use of nuclear weapons! :)
Bobby Jo
There will be no nukes used and no one will go to war. Ezekiel 7:14, Psalms 83, Psalms 50:1-3

The Coronal Mass Ejection, explosion of the sun, Isaiah 30:26, that the Lord will use on His great and terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, will destroy all electronic systems, cause weapons to explode, sink ships, crash aircraft, burn buildings and kill military personnel:
Amos 5:9 The Lord flashes forth destruction upon the strongholds of the powerful nations.

Zephaniah 1:16 A Day of battle cries against fortified cities.

Isaiah 30:25-30 ....on the Day of massacre, when fortresses fall….The Lord’s arm will descend in His fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire…..

Deuteronomy 32:22 For fire is kindled by My wrath, it burns to the realms of death below. [weapons stored underground] It devours the earth and its harvest and penetrates to the foundations of the mountains. [The electromagnetic pulse effect of huge coronal mass ejection.]

Jeremiah 25:32 Disaster spreads from nation to nation, [as the earth rotates] a mighty storm of military destruction comes.

Psalm 46:9 In all the world, He breaks the bow, snaps the spear and burns the shields in the fire.

Jeremiah 50:22-27 See how the hammer of the world is shattered. The Lord has opened His armoury, the weapons of His wrath to do His work in the land of the Babylonians. [the godless peoples] Put all warriors to the sword, lead them to slaughter, for their time has come.

Amos 2:14-16 ....the warrior will not save himself, on that Day they will all throw away their weapons and run, but they cannot escape.

Proverbs 12:12 The strongholds of the wicked crumble like clay.

Psalm 76:3 The Lord has broken the flashing arrows [nukes] and all weapons of war.

Isaiah 34:2 The Lord’s anger is against all the nations, His wrath is against their armed forces, they will be slaughtered, their dead will stink.

Hosea 10:13-14.....because you have trusted in your chariots and in the number of your warriors, destruction will arise against your people [Israel and the Western nations.] and all your fortresses will be overthrown. [military power destroyed]

Hosea 2:18..... I shall break the bow and sword, I shall sweep all weapons of war off the earth, so that My people may lie down without fear.

Haggai 2:21-22 I shall shake the heavens and the earth, shall overthrow the thrones of kings, break the power of the heathen realms, overturn chariots, horses and riders will fall. [armies] Fear will cause them to fight amongst themselves.

Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I shall slaughter your horses and burn your chariots and raze your [military] fortifications to the ground.

Jeremiah 49:35 I shall break the bow of Elam, [Iran] the chief weapon of their might. [bow and arrows, military code names for nuclear weapons]
Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.
 

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What you don't mention is those people are in the holy Land soon after it is ruined and destroyed. Ezekiel 38:8
The terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, the Psalms 83, Malachi 4:1-3, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:12-17, + will flatten that wall, the Dome of the Rock, etc, and depopulate the entire area.
This is confirmed by Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 20:34, Zechariah 9:14-17, +

Because you are using the Traditional understanding of the "Promised Land" being a forever reality, as the basis of your theological utterances, the actual translations of the Hebrew text around Ezekiel 38:8, paints a very different picture.

Ezekiel 38:7-13: - 7 "Prepare yourself and be ready, you and all your companies that are gathered about you; and be a guard for them. 8 After many days you will be visited. In the latter years you will come into the land/earth of those brought back from the sword and gathered from many people on the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate; they were brought out of the nations, and now all of them dwell safely. 9 You will ascend, coming like a storm, covering the land/earth like a cloud, you and all your troops and many peoples with you."

10 'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: 11 You will say, 'I will go up against a land/country of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates' — 12 to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land/earth. 13 Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, 'Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?'"'

Your lack of research as to what is the actual message content of the OT Prophecies are and what they are telling us means that you are continually presenting a false theory of the Latter Times.

The reference to the "Mountains of Israel" is a reference to the Religion that God instigated with Israel when he brought them out of Egypt, but which they rebelled against and the visitation of their iniquities still has around 25 or so years to go before God will gather Israel to Himself in a interactive relationship with Him where they are scattered throughout the whole earth.

The above paraphrase that I have presented is a far better representation of the context of the above passage than the one that you are presenting.

As for other members expressing their misguided views as to what we are to expect in the Latter Days, they can be ignored just like you also can be ignored.

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As for other members expressing their misguided views as to what we are to expect in the Latter Days, they can be ignored just like you also can be ignored.
There are physical realities and the Spiritual realm.
You seem to want to mix the two.

Also what happened to the ancient Israelites, is symbolic of what will happen in the end times. 1 Corinthians 10:11
 

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There are physical realities and the Spiritual realm.
You seem to want to mix the two.

Also what happened to the ancient Israelites, is symbolic of what will happen in the end times. 1 Corinthians 10:11

But sadly you want to present the false understandings of the Jews from long ago with what you post.

Shalom