Jack Van Impe Challenging Pope Francis to Debate!!

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Nancy

Well-Known Member
Apr 30, 2018
16,761
25,324
113
Buffalo, Ny
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
They aren't the "purple and scarlet" which Revelation says the Whore dresses in...oh, which church does that? :)

View attachment 6635
Oh my, I cannot believe you mentioned this!!! As, in the mid 90's when reading Revelations...being a new Christian, coming from a Catholic upbringing...thought the same thing when I read about the Purple and Scarlet, I immediately thought of the Hierarchy (mostly) of the Papal vestments! I only mentioned it to a few but, was kind of like...shut down maybe? Wow.....HA! OH how He reveals to us in so many ways ♥
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phoneman777

JohnPaul

Soldier of Jehovah and Christ
Jun 10, 2019
3,274
2,567
113
New Jersey
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Don't be fooled by wolves in sheep's clothing. When he makes up lies about the Pope OR the Church – he shows that he is just another angry anti-Catholic.

Anti-Catholics are not those who simply “disagree” with the Catholic Church. They are those who create fairy tales, myths and outright LIES in a desperate attempt to defame the Church at ANY cost.

That’s why I’M here – to expose this garbage – and the people who spread these lies.
BreadOfLife, I don’t know about others, but I am not anti Catholic, I was baptized Catholic and am not anti any denomination.

I appreciate you taking the time to discuss with me and offering your help on Christianity.

Thank you brother, God bless you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GTW27 and Nancy

BreadOfLife

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2017
20,915
3,368
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
BreadOfLife, I don’t know about others, but I am not anti Catholic, I was baptized Catholic and am not anti any denomination.

I appreciate you taking the time to discuss with me and offering your help on Christianity.

Thank you brother, God bless you.
I wasn't talking about you.

I was just advising you not to yet your information about the Catholic Church from anti-Catholics.
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Ezekiel 36:25-27
I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Gee - sounds a LOT like Baptism, my Scripturally-Bankrupt friend.


And if you don't know about the Early Christian symbol of the Ichthys - then you really ARE ignorant.
It's the "Fish" symbol that you see on cars driven by Christians. It goes ALL the way back to the beginning of Christianity, Einstein.
christian-fish%5B1%5D.png



Good grief - do your homework instead of embarrassing yourself any further . . .
How come you guys don't leave dead catholics on the front pews? God says He'll revive their "dry bones" too, right? :)
 

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
No - they perverted them.

Ummmmmm, show me WHICH ideas they "implemented" without perverting them. CAN you do that??
This oughtta be interesting . . .
100 million murdered "heretic" saints would disagree with you, DB.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The Congregation For the Doctrine of the Faith are "torturers" and "murderers"??
Ummmmmm, care to show me a list of people they have "tortured and murdered" - or are you just talking out of your behind again??

Your ignorance is hilarious - if not so tragic . . .
Foxe's Book of Martyrs is an excellent history book on the murderous exploits of the Jesuits and the papacy at large, DB.
 
  • Like
Reactions: farouk

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Looks like a graven image of God to me.
Ummmmm, isn't that forbidden by the Commandments??
No, the "bowing down" to them was what was forbidden. The sanctuary had images of angels sewn into the fabric of the veil. Why did papists delete the 2nd commandment and then commence teaching the faithful to bow down and worship/pray to statues?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The church in the wilderness (Acts 7:38), once known as Israel. Exod. 25:1-8.
However, the KoG was taken from them and given to another, the "universal church" of Born Again Christians, consisting of both Jew and Gentle, and are peppered among all the visible churches, that profess Jesus has come from above, was made flesh, and did dwell among us.
Well, not exactly...you forgot a VERY important color that the Israelites used with their vestments: BLUE. They were to sew BLUE on the fringes and borders so when they looked upon it, they would "remember the law". The papacy has sought to destroy the law of God and that's why they only use purple and scarlet w/o the blue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Phoneman777

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2015
7,184
2,533
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Oh my, I cannot believe you mentioned this!!! As, in the mid 90's when reading Revelations...being a new Christian, coming from a Catholic upbringing...thought the same thing when I read about the Purple and Scarlet, I immediately thought of the Hierarchy (mostly) of the Papal vestments! I only mentioned it to a few but, was kind of like...shut down maybe? Wow.....HA! OH how He reveals to us in so many ways ♥
I mentioned this in another post: the Israelite priests sewed BLUE on the fringes and borders of their garments so when they looked upon it they would "remember the law", but the papal Antichrist is said to "think to change times and the law" which is why they don't wear the BLUE. They hate God's law - not the catholic faithful, the papal leaders.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Nancy

Well-Known Member
Apr 30, 2018
16,761
25,324
113
Buffalo, Ny
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I mentioned this in another post: the Israelite priests sewed BLUE on the fringes and borders of their garments so when they looked upon it they would "remember the law", but the papal Antichrist is said to "think to change times and the law" which is why they don't wear the BLUE. They hate God's law - not the catholic faithful, the papal leaders.
Yes, I remember the post about the blue on their fringes. And, I agree with all you say here. Especially your last sentence. The secret society of the hierarchy...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phoneman777

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,467
1,537
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Helloooo- while you all are slinging your religious manure, did anyone look up the Bible verses I posted?

Re-posted:
Phoneman wrote:
They aren't the "purple and scarlet" which Revelation says the Whore dresses in...oh, which church does that? :)
View attachment 6635
.
Earburner answered:
The church in the wilderness (Acts 7:38), once known as Israel. Exod. 25:1-8.

However, the KoG was taken from them and given to another, the "universal church" of Born Again Christians, consisting of both Jew and Gentle, and are peppered among all the visible churches, that profess Jesus has come from above, was made flesh, and did dwell among us.
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,467
1,537
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Thanks for your reply Phoneman, but you went the wrong way with it!
KJV- "where also our Lord was crucified".
.
Now, make the comparison in the words used:
"The great"city/Babylon "the great".
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,467
1,537
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I mentioned this in another post: the Israelite priests sewed BLUE on the fringes and borders of their garments so when they looked upon it they would "remember the law", but the papal Antichrist is said to "think to change times and the law" which is why they don't wear the BLUE. They hate God's law - not the catholic faithful, the papal leaders.
Unfortunately out of ignorance, due to being falsely directed by that which is "religiously popular",
you are extracting and mis-applying the FULFILLED prophetic words of Daniel 7:25
[25] And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
.
That scripture is about the little horn, who WAS Antiochus Epiphanes of the Seleucid empire, "in the latter time of their kingdom" of the 3rd beast.
You applied it to a false doctrine, that "church-ianity" fabricated, out of both the OT. and the NT.
.
There is NO "little horn" in the book Revelation-KJV.
The "Religious scholarly learned" committed a gross error, and so now are all the churches!
 

epostle

Well-Known Member
Jun 21, 2018
859
289
63
72
essex
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Helloooo- while you all are slinging your religious manure, did anyone look up the Bible verses I posted?

Re-posted:
Phoneman wrote:
They aren't the "purple and scarlet" which Revelation says the Whore dresses in...oh, which church does that? :)
View attachment 6635
Hunt (and Phoneyman) states, “She [the Whore] is clothed in ‘purple and scarlet’ (verse 4), the colors of the Catholic clergy.” He then cites the Catholic Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple vestments and cardinals wear certain red vestments.

Hunt (and Phoneyman) ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of Christ and the Christian martyrs.

Hunt (and Phoneyman) neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet yarn and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49–52; Num. 19:6), and that God commanded that the priests’ vestments be made with purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4–8, 15, 33; 39:1–8, 24, 29).
9 LIES OF DAVE HUNT (AND THE SDA)
 
  • Like
Reactions: BreadOfLife

tzcho2

Well-Known Member
Feb 15, 2019
1,646
846
113
Boston
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Jesus doesn't need YOU or me, either.
Does that mean we should just stop believing in Him?

Don't confuse what Jesus "needs" with what He wants or wills.

So you're you claiming Jesus wants & wills the fancy garb, and jewelry and gold of the RCC, their Pope & priests?.....I think not.
The Bible states (Luke 9:58 ) Jesus stated that He had not even a place to lay His head. Jesus owned nothing, but the clothes on His back, "the Son of Man has no place to lay His head."

Neither did the Apostles after His crucifixion wrap themselves in royal garments, wearing jeweled rings & parade about, or carried on thrones.


GoldVatican-567x354.jpg
 
Last edited:

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,467
1,537
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well, not exactly...you forgot a VERY important color that the Israelites used with their vestments: BLUE. They were to sew BLUE on the fringes and borders so when they looked upon it, they would "remember the law". The papacy has sought to destroy the law of God and that's why they only use purple and scarlet w/o the blue.
As for the Jews, that was a custom/tradition of men. It means nothing!

Do you have anything to verify why the RCC doesn't use the color blue for that reason?
Or could it be due to the fact that all Christians are to live by faith in Jesus, and are not to seek justification through the Law?

Therefore, for the RCC to not use the color "blue", they have the more important reason, which is to ensure that "Judaizers" have no influence in the church.
 

tzcho2

Well-Known Member
Feb 15, 2019
1,646
846
113
Boston
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hunt (and Phoneyman) states, “She [the Whore] is clothed in ‘purple and scarlet’ (verse 4), the colors of the Catholic clergy.” He then cites the Catholic Encyclopedia to show that bishops wear certain purple vestments and cardinals wear certain red vestments.

Hunt (and Phoneyman) ignores the obvious symbolic meaning of the colors. Purple symbolizes repentance, and red honors the blood of Christ and the Christian martyrs.

Hunt (and Phoneyman) neglects to remind his readers that God commanded that scarlet yarn and wool be used in liturgical ceremonies (Lev. 14:4, 6, 49–52; Num. 19:6), and that God commanded that the priests’ vestments be made with purple and scarlet yarn (Ex. 28:4–8, 15, 33; 39:1–8, 24, 29).
9 LIES OF DAVE HUNT (AND THE SDA)
Dave Hunt never lied. Too bad you don't use a dictionary. You might disagree with Dave Hunt and feel angry or offended because you are a Roman Catholic, but that doesn't mean he lied.
You make a false accusation against him by saying he lied.
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,467
1,537
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Phoneman wrote:
the papal Antichrist is said to "think to change times and the law".
.
Earburner's reply:
Can you justify the scriptural description of how the Pope is an antichrist, according to the point blank reason in 1 John 2:22?
[22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Does the Pope deny that Jesus is the Christ, according to that verse?
Yes or no?
No story telling now, please!
 

BreadOfLife

Well-Known Member
Jan 2, 2017
20,915
3,368
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
How come you guys don't leave dead catholics on the front pews? God says He'll revive their "dry bones" too, right?
Just the kind of impotent response I would have expected from an anti-Catholic of your limited caliber . . .