Twenty first century Christian computer dogmatics and doctrine... When you notice another says and or dares believe the same thing(s) as you, you get offended and humiliated, throw a tantrum and by hook or crook make the other guy look like some stupid hypocrite.
Smoke Screens?
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You can judge the doctrine, however, by the fruit that is borne by those who carry it.
Therefore, finding out the realities through conversations on the internet can be useful; because those who carry the truth will not bear briers and/or thorns. So you can judge the doctrine being preached by whether the people who carry it are bearing the fruit of love, joy, peace, longsuffering, goodness, gentleness, faith, meekness, temperance...or not.
Good policy...
Yes...it's good to do. As long as you have the discernment to see Or...your senses trained, because when someone is saying something hard for us, something we haven't quite learned yet, there IS going to be a little argument, I mean they're trying to help us, and what we're saying isn't quite right, and we don't like to hear that
so we will push back a little (or a lot .) Now if we don't have our senses as highly trained, everyone who disagrees with us will become a battle.
Hopefully, we learn to go away peaceably and think about it with God rather than just continue dismissing everyone, throwing away the obviously bad along with what could help us.
Remember the man who said if someone is one or two steps beyond us, we will admire them. If they're many more steps beyond us, we will think them quite evil.
Grailhunter
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Yes...it's good to do. As long as you have the discernment to see Or...your senses trained, because when someone is saying something hard for us, something we haven't quite learned yet, there IS going to be a little argument, I mean they're trying to help us, and what we're saying isn't quite right, and we don't like to hear that
Now if we don't have our senses as highly trained, everyone who disagrees with us will become a battle.
Hopefully, we learn to go away peaceably and think about it with God rather than just continue dismissing everyone, throwing away the obviously bad along with what could help us.
Remember the man who said if someone is one or two steps beyond us, we will admire them. If they're many more steps beyond us, we will think them quite evil.
Good morning...did you get any sleep?
Grailhunter
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I have to get back to vacuuming. Nielsen coming today to pick up their equipment. I guess its okay to tell people you were a Nielsen family after the fact?
Anyway, if anyone is going to enter the house, it must be utterly spotless, mom's you know?
I'll check back in on breaks. I have a fellowship too in about an hour and a half. Excited!
Have a good day, GH!
Anyway, if anyone is going to enter the house, it must be utterly spotless, mom's you know?
I'll check back in on breaks. I have a fellowship too in about an hour and a half. Excited!
Have a good day, GH!
Grailhunter
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Grailhunter
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I have to get back to vacuuming. Nielsen coming today to pick up their equipment. I guess its okay to tell people you were a Nielsen family after the fact?
Anyway, if anyone is going to enter the house, it must be utterly spotless, mom's you know?
I'll check back in on breaks. I have a fellowship too in about an hour and a half. Excited!
Have a good day, GH!
You too.
Are you saying satan had Jesus killed?
I must have misunderstood you.
Jesus died because He was meant to die from the beginning of time.
Genesis 3:15
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It was foreknown and foreordained from before the beginning of time; but surely Jesus died because the devil murdered Him.
Calm down sis.
Yes, that was Gods good plan from the beginning, but evil works in a way that it thinks it is hindering God and in the end, that doesn't happen. Because it can't. Because...God already foresaw everything.
Its like...Joseph's brothers did what they did to him with the intent of harm. But in the end it could be seen that it doesn't matter what the intents of evil are because God meant it for good, to save many people during the drought.
Can you kind of...catch that wave and ride it?
I see it like that. The devil worked through men to try to hinder Gods plan. But light always overtakes darkness!
Oh my.
No.
This goes against everything Christianity teaches.
Jesus died because He is the propitiation for our sins.
God Father knew always that God Son was going to die for our sins.
Jesus went willingly to His death.
Mathew 26:1
1When Jesus had finished all these words, He said to His disciples, 2“You know that after two days the Passover is coming, and the Son of Man is to behanded over for crucifixion.”
Mathew 26:11
. 11“For you always have the poor with you; but you do not always have Me.
Mathew 26:21
21As they were eating, He said, “Truly I say to you that one of you will betray Me.”
Mathew 26:29
29“But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”
Mathew 26:39
39And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”
Mathew 26:53-54
53“Or do you think that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54“How then will the Scriptures be fulfilled, which say that it must happen this way?”
I'm always calm...I'm really sorry if the written word (mine!) doesn't come off that way.Calm down sis.
Yes, that was Gods good plan from the beginning, but evil works in a way that it thinks it is hindering God and in the end, that doesn't happen. Because it can't. Because...God already foresaw everything.
Its like...Joseph's brothers did what they did to him with the intent of harm. But in the end it could be seen that it doesn't matter what the intents of evil are because God meant it for good, to save many people during the drought.
Can you kind of...catch that wave and ride it?
And, yes, I can catch that wave and ride it.
It's a truthful wave.
God is in control.
Nothing happens without HIS permission.
Satan entered into Judas Iscariot to accomplish Jesus' final betrayal.
Of course it could not have been accomplished if it were not in the perfect will of the Father.
But it wasn't the Father who killed Jesus...it was most certainly the devil who sought His death 2,000 years ago.
@Grailhunter
I'd like to go through the following.
Will take some time...
They accept Jesus as Savior, even though they may not understand the CONCEPT of this action. They know nothing of the New Covenant and still are offered God's grace to continue in their faith life since God will always give grace to those that need it or want it.
Now,, having said that...all future comments will be based on theological understanding of the N.T.
IOW, they may not know about the N.C. but they are still saved.
Also, whether a Christian truly understands the N.C . or not does not make him saved or unsaved. I just don't believe doctrine saves us...Jesus does.
The N.C. became effective when Jesus died.
1. Not all the 613 laws were God-inspired.
Some were man-made and Jesus attested to this.
"You have heard it said"
Won't go into detail unless you wish to, or I'll never get thru this!
I think you'll understand my statements.
2. I do believe that the persons in the O.T. attributed everything that happened to God even though God did not CAUSE those things to happen. Now, we could say this is still true; however, they attributed even evil to God, and we know this cannot be. He only ALLOWS evil (we don't know why).
I'm not sure what you mean by his learning the advantages of females.
Highlighted above.
part I
I'd like to go through the following.
Will take some time...
Although I agree with all of the above, I always have in mind persons that I know to be saved that have never read the bible.
They accept Jesus as Savior, even though they may not understand the CONCEPT of this action. They know nothing of the New Covenant and still are offered God's grace to continue in their faith life since God will always give grace to those that need it or want it.
Now,, having said that...all future comments will be based on theological understanding of the N.T.
IOW, they may not know about the N.C. but they are still saved.
Also, whether a Christian truly understands the N.C . or not does not make him saved or unsaved. I just don't believe doctrine saves us...Jesus does.
Can we just say that Testament means WILL as in last will and testament,,,and we'll leave it at that.
The N.C. became effective when Jesus died.
I'd like to make two comments:
1. Not all the 613 laws were God-inspired.
Some were man-made and Jesus attested to this.
"You have heard it said"
Won't go into detail unless you wish to, or I'll never get thru this!
I think you'll understand my statements.
2. I do believe that the persons in the O.T. attributed everything that happened to God even though God did not CAUSE those things to happen. Now, we could say this is still true; however, they attributed even evil to God, and we know this cannot be. He only ALLOWS evil (we don't know why).
Agreed.
I'm not sure what you mean by his learning the advantages of females.
Highlighted above.
part I
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