And who is part of or is to be a part of the Body of Christ?

amadeus · Jun 25, 2019

"And he [Jesus] is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Col 1:18

"... even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Eph 5:23
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, ..." Eph 5:23-24

"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
For the body is not one member, but many." I Cor 12:12-14

marks · Jun 25, 2019

amadeus said:
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,

Hi amadeus,

The "we all".

Was there more you had in mind?

Much love!

Helen · Jun 25, 2019

amadeus said:
"And he [Jesus] is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Col 1:18

"... even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Eph 5:23
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, ..." Eph 5:23-24

"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
For the body is not one member, but many." I Cor 12:12-14

All of the blood-washed from across all denominations in the Lord... are a part of the Body of Christ.
When flowing together we all have a function and the Body is directed by the Head.
Yet it does seem that we have a few too many mouths ...other than Jesus.

Now, is the Bride all of the Body, no, I think not...

marks · Jun 25, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
All of the blood-washed from across all denominations in the Lord... are a part of the Body of Christ.
When flowing together we all have a function and the Body is directed by the Head.
Yet it does seem that we have a few too many mouths ...other than Jesus.

Now, is the Bride all of the Body, no, I think not...

May I ask? What differentiates the two?

Much love!

Helen · Jun 25, 2019

marks said:
May I ask? What differentiates the two?

Much love!

I was waiting for @amadeus to bite. I'm not sure which way he is taking his thread.

( personally , as I read the patterns of God in scripture.

God said to Moses about the Tabernacle .."Be sure that you build it according to the pattern that was shown thee on The Mount."

The tabernacle is three distinct parts ..Outercourt, Holy Place, and The Holy Of Holies. Outside of that was the masses/Israel . )

The Ark of Noah, had three levels, .. but..

Lets wait on John/amadeus

amadeus · Jun 25, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
All of the blood-washed from across all denominations in the Lord... are a part of the Body of Christ.
When flowing together we all have a function and the Body is directed by the Head.
Yet it does seem that we have a few too many mouths ...other than Jesus.

Now, is the Bride all of the Body, no, I think not...

I won't go into the differences [Bride and Body] I have considered here and derail my own thread, but as to the mouths...seriously? Each part is to be the nourished not by food and drink through the carnal mouth, but rather by the consumed flesh and blood of Jesus. It isn't the blood that carries away the wastes and carries in the good food into our natural bodies. This, the flesh and blood of Jesus, is the source of Life, is it not?

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed." John 6:53-55

amadeus · Jun 25, 2019

marks said:
Hi amadeus,

The "we all".

Was there more you had in mind?

Much love!

What @"ByGrace" meant was I see a difference between the Body and the Bride, but it is not always so clear to me so I won't pursue on this thread. My concern here is more in the direction of every true believer being or becoming a part of the Body of Christ. People stuck to closely to even the best doctrines of organized churches of men may come up short simply because they are not connecting with not only the Head but also the rest of the Body [whoever is include in it]. For more on your question you might look here:
If all of the Church is the Bride of Christ who are the guests?

marks · Jun 25, 2019

amadeus said:
My concern here is more in the direction of every true believer being or becoming a part of the Body of Christ.

From this I see we have rather different views, as I see Scripture teach that when we are born again, we are His body.

Much love!
Mark

amadeus · Jun 25, 2019

marks said:
From this I see we have rather different views, as I see Scripture teach that when we are born again, we are His body.

Much love!
Mark

When we are the Body, I believe, the connection will be certain and true to the example that Jesus manifested when he ministered as man for 3½ years. This is why John the Baptist said, "He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

And Paul wrote: "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

The new born baby cannot function fully in its role as a part of the mature Body of Christ. Growth is required!

Enoch111 · Jun 25, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
Now, is the Bride all of the Body, no, I think not...

There are no amputations in the Body of Christ. Otherwise I am in agreement with you.

The Church is (1) the Body, (2) the Bride, and (3) the Building of Christ. Eventually the Bride will be the Lamb's Wife.

APAK · Jun 25, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
All of the blood-washed from across all denominations in the Lord... are a part of the Body of Christ.
When flowing together we all have a function and the Body is directed by the Head.
Yet it does seem that we have a few too many mouths ...other than Jesus.

Now, is the Bride all of the Body, no, I think not...

Helen:
I see 3 options here....

If you are a Dispensationalist you might believe that the Bride is the lamb's wife, Israel (of the OT Israel saints only?). And Abraham was looking for the heavenly holy city of Jerusalem in his time, coming down from heaven , the completed and perfect work that Adam was originally meant to complete on earth. And therefore the Body of Christ is part of the lamb and thus part of the Bridegroom reining in the heavenlies, not part of the New Jerusalem.
Then there are two other options:
The Bride is the Body of Christ or
The Bride are all saved folks from all time in the New holy Jerusalem from the heavenlies.

APAK

soul man · Jun 26, 2019

The born again!

Episkopos · Jun 26, 2019

I would just like to add in here that Eve, the wife of Adam, was taken from a PART of Adam's body....not his WHOLE body. (I think this agrees with Amadeus and ByGrace).

I see it like it like Eve was taken from the closest rib to Adam's heart.
So it is proximity to Christ that makes us His Bride or not.
It's about location, location, location!

Let us all endeavour to draw nearer and nearer to our Lord.

Nancy · Jun 26, 2019

Episkopos said:
I would just like to add in here that Eve, the wife of Adam, was taken from a PART of Adam's body....not his WHOLE body. (I think this agrees with Amadeus and ByGrace).

I see it like it like Eve was taken from the closest rib to Adam's heart.
So it is proximity to Christ that makes us His Bride or not.
It's about location, location, location!
Let us all endeavour to draw nearer and nearer to our Lord.

It's funny how, when I think of Adam and Eve's creation I first wonder if Eve was also considered created "from the ground" like Adam because she CAME from his rib? And, I wonder if they had belly buttons! Ha! Silly I know, but then...it is sometimes where my thoughts go, lol. I didn't know rib taken from Adam was closest to his heart, yes...location!

marks · Jun 26, 2019

amadeus said:
When we are the Body,

Hi amadeus,

Does this mean to say, you do not see us as the body now?

Much love!
Mark

bbyrd009 · Jun 26, 2019

"ByGrace" said:
All of the blood-washed from across all denominations in the Lord

yet aren't the sins of the whole world covered under that same blood?

bbyrd009 · Jun 26, 2019

amadeus said:
When we are the Body, I believe, the connection will be certain and true to the example that Jesus manifested when he ministered as man for 3½ years.

How might one even get out of being part of the body, as per

amadeus said:
"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
For the body is not one member, but many." I Cor 12:12-14

see imo um Jesus was being completely literal there only "we" like to help Him define that "we" a little better maybe?

bbyrd009 · Jun 26, 2019

"Everybody's here with me,
got no camera to see..."

I use new music Bc i don't know any Lawrence Welk goes like that, see.
Anyway see how your "we" might be pretending to be inclusive when it is actually fairly exclusive, or maybe even really exclusive, depending, see

soul man · Jun 26, 2019

bbyrd009 said:
yet aren't the sins of the whole world covered under that same blood?

Come on Byrd you know you have to be born again

bbyrd009 · Jun 26, 2019

But i guess someone will then ask "is everyone saved, then?" right, and we might even debate that, but Scripture debates "can anyone be saved, then?" right. So, not answering either Q, but see how the whole approaches are diff

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