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It has nothing to do with being Christian it is believing in the one God it is you who can not see past your prejudices. If you break a law of God say like practicing Wicka you have broken a Law "thou shall have no other Gods before me"
You're already assuming here that there is only one God. What if the Greek pantheon truly exists? Or the Hindu pantheon of gods? You can't already assume that there is only one God or you've already demonstrated circular reasoning. You're right, it has nothing to do with Christianity - but it has everything to do with belief vs. truth.(Christina;60465)
That is the Law of the God it is a law followed by all religions that believe in One God
But it's not believed by all religions, by any means of the word. And there are many, many religions that do not believe in one God. Again, circular reasoning on your part. You can't assume that there is one God and then use Pascal's Wager, or any other argument, to prove that. If the Greek pantheon exists, then the "Law of God" is bunk. We can throw it out. In fact, they might punish you for following those laws.(Christina;60465)
As a Christian I believe the Holy Bible tells me how to worship the one God to obtain salvation, as a Christian I simply believe we are all born sinners and God has sent his Son as way for us to be forgiven for our sins.
Great. And if it turns out Islam is correct, you're going to hell. You most likely have never made a trip to Mecca, and you've most likely never fasted during Ramadan. Even if there is only one God, there are different beliefs about what his rules are for who gets to heaven and who doesn't. Thus, essentially we can say that these are two different "gods". One is a Christian-type "God-who-justifies-through-faith-alone", and another is a Muslim-type "God-who-saves-through-obedience-to-five-pillars-of-Islam". Either way, if you pick the wrong beliefs, and if it turns out to be the other God, then you lose.(Christina;60465)
If I were Muslim I would believe the Quran tells me how to worship the one God, and that Christ was a great prophet, that will return with the Mahdi (Islamic messiah)
But you miss all the other aspects of Islam here. This is not Islam. You're only pointing out the few similarities between Islam and Christianity, and ignoring all the vast differences.(Christina;60465)
True as Christians we believe the Quran was written by men and is wrong.but that doesnt change the fact that God is the God of Muslims and everyone else.
Do you believe Muslims are going to heaven? If you do, you at least disagree with many, many Christians on the matter. If you don't, then why does this argument about it being the "same God" matter at all in terms of Pascal's Wager?(Christina;60465)
You have free will not to be a Christian you can even choose not to believe in God but that doesnt change the fact he is your God whether you acknowledge him or not.
I don't think anyone's disputing this. Other than the whole "belief as a choice" thing, but I think we've moved on from that.(Christina;60465)
In fact if a non believer followed all the Laws (commandments )of God to a tee and a believer ignored them all and intentionally breaks them Id say you got a better chance than him as you are judged by your heart. Same as the believer. Satan himself believes in God yet he is a Law breaker and is condemned to death.
So are we justified by faith or by works? At any rate, the laws that Christians follow and the laws that Muslims follow are, in many ways, very different. As pointed out by the whole Ramadan and Mecca thing. So following one set of laws won't necessarily get you into heaven if the other laws are the correct ones.(Christina;60465)
You will never understand til you learn God and religion are not the sameHavent you ever heard people say I believe in God, but I dont believe in religion? Gods Laws are for all men Religion is a more specific set of beliefs of how to worship God.
You're essentially trying to boil all gods together into one pot and say "it's all the same God". But this is silly. Each religion states that their God(s) has a certain nature, and certain likes and dislikes. The Christian God very much dislikes disbelief. But this is not the case for all the gods of all the religions. The Greek gods had very wide-ranging likes and dislikes, and didn't necessarily care about the whole disbelief thing. The Hindu gods care about following certain paths and doing your duty and karma, and all that stuff. These are all fundamentally different ways of looking at God. If they are all still the same God, then God has a severe case of multiple personality disorder.The point is, however, that whatever God truly exists has a specific set of character qualities and a specific set of rules that he wants you to follow. I think the Christian God would frown very much upon someone following Taoism as a way of trying to get to heaven. But if it turns out that the Taoist God exists, then heck, they've done a great job! By saying "it's all the same God" you're eliminating that distinct character which each religion ascribes to their God. Most religions don't have a faceless, nameless, blank God with no wants or desires. It's only in this sort of case that you could make your argument work.