Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

justbyfaith · Jul 4, 2019

Enoch111 said:
So we have another Anti-Trinitarian here? Do you even understand the Mystery of God and Christ? The LORD God Almighty is indeed the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Spirit is Lord.

And yet there is one Lord.

Nowhere in scripture do we find a statement saying there are three Lords...and in fact, such a statement would be against the creeds on the Trinity.

And no, I am not anti-Trinitarian...but I emphasize the Oneness of the Lord in order to combat the heresy of Tritheism in people's minds.

justbyfaith · Jul 4, 2019

Enoch111 said:
"Justbyfaith" should mean that you also accept this as just-by-faith. Otherwise you cannot be justbyfaith.

It means both "by faith alone" and "righteous by faith".

Enoch111 · Jul 4, 2019

justbyfaith said:
Nowhere in scripture do we find a statement saying there are three Lords...and in fact, such a statement would be against the creeds on the Trinity.

And yet we find this in the Bible:

The LORD [the Father] said unto my Lord [the Son], Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? (Mt 22:44)

(A Psalm of David.) The LORD [the Father] said unto my Lord [the Son], Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (Ps 110:1)

This one verse proves that you are DEAD WRONG. Both the Father and the Son are "Lord".

justbyfaith · Jul 4, 2019

Enoch111 said:
And yet we find this in the Bible:

The LORD [the Father] said unto my Lord [the Son], Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? (Mt 22:44)

(A Psalm of David.) The LORD [the Father] said unto my Lord [the Son], Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (Ps 110:1)

This one verse proves that you are DEAD WRONG. Both the Father and the Son are "Lord".

So, two Lords? that is contrary to Ephesians 4:5 and 1 Corinthians 8:6.

Enoch111 · Jul 4, 2019

justbyfaith said:
So, two Lords? that is contrary to Ephesians 4:5 and 1 Corinthians 8:6.

Instead of pitting Scripture against Scripture, sit down and get a grasp on this doctrine. I showed you an actual verse with both the Father and the Son as "Lord" and you come back with this retort? That means you have no clue about this subject, neither are you accepting Scripture just-by-faith. You are contradicting your own user name.

Ephesians 4:5 = One Lord = the Lord Jesus Christ
1 Cor 8:6 = One Lord = the Lord Jesus Christ

Does this means that the Father is not LORD when Psalm 110:1 says that He is?

justbyfaith · Jul 4, 2019

Enoch111 said:
Instead of pitting Scripture against Scripture, sit down and get a grasp on this doctrine. I showed you an actual verse with both the Father and the Son as "Lord" and you come back with this retort? That means you have no clue about this subject, neither are you accepting Scripture just-by-faith. You are contradicting your own user name.

Ephesians 4:5 = One Lord = the Lord Jesus Christ
1 Cor 8:6 = One Lord = the Lord Jesus Christ

Does this means that the Father is not LORD when Psalm 110:1 says that He is?

Oh, the Father is the Lord (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21). I am contending He is the same Lord (1 Corinthians 12:5, 2 Corinthians 8:19 (kjv)).

justbyfaith · Jul 4, 2019

In Isaiah 9:6, the son that is given, His name shall be called the everlasting Father. Will you accept this scripture at face value, as teaching that the Father descended to become a Man?

101G · Jul 4, 2019

Enoch111 said:
So we have another Anti-Trinitarian here? Do you even understand the Mystery of God and Christ? The LORD God Almighty is indeed the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Spirit is Lord.

"Justbyfaith" should mean that you also accept this as just-by-faith. Otherwise you cannot be justbyfaith.

if all three are "Lord" then who is the "LORD" all caps?

PICJAG

101G · Jul 4, 2019

Father, Son are titles of the One true God JESUS the Holy Spirit.

to all the trinitarian if the son only came or manifested in flesh, did not the one whom you calls Father, and the Holy Ghost was in that body of flesh also? or is what you're saying is that only a piece of God was in that flesh. remember you say they all have the SAME one Nature. so was it some of the nature came into that flesh or did all of the nature came into that flesh. your choice.

looking to hear your answer.

PICJAG.

101G · Jul 5, 2019

let's make it clear. did 1/3 of the trinity manifested in flesh or did 100% ... God himself manifested in that flesh? for the scriptures are clear, God who is a Spirit manifested in the flesh, supportive scripture. Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us". the scripture said not 1/3, of God was with us, nor 1/2 but God fully came in flesh. now God who is a Spirit (John 4:24a) is 100% in Nature.

now, think long and hard, did God 100%, meaning his NATURE manifested in flesh yes or No?.

PICJAG.

justbyfaith · Jul 5, 2019

I'm with you, @101G...

and awaiting their answer.

justbyfaith · Jul 6, 2019

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101G · Jul 8, 2019

the Lord Jesus is God in John 1:1

Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female". the "he" here is God, supportive scripture, Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female".
this was in the same context as in Matthews 19:4

so JESUS IS THE "SON", John 1:1 c right, now, Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female".
and Jesus said, THIS "he referring to God". either he's the same one God or one have two separate and distinct Gods.

PICJAG.

justbyfaith · Jul 11, 2019

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GodsGrace · Jul 11, 2019

101G said:
if all three are "Lord" then who is the "LORD" all caps?

PICJAG

Lord is Jesus
Lord is C Father

101G · Jul 11, 2019

GodsGrace said:
Lord is Jesus
Lord is C Father

Like that .... (smile)
PICJAG.

GodsGrace · Jul 12, 2019

GodsGrace said:
Lord is Jesus
Lord is C Father

Mistype!

Lord is JESUS
LORD is Father

GodsGrace · Jul 12, 2019

101G said:
Like that .... (smile)
PICJAG.

No. 101
I made a mistake in typing....

101G · Jul 12, 2019

GodsGrace said:
Mistype!

Lord is JESUS
LORD is Father

First thanks for the response, second, but you still made a mistake, let us help you out.
Lord is JESUS
LORD is Father, who is Jesus. Ta Da!. yea, cheers.

thanks GG,

PICJAG.

GodsGrace · Jul 12, 2019

101G said:
First thanks for the response, second, but you still made a mistake, let us help you out.
Lord is JESUS
LORD is Father, who is Jesus. Ta Da!. yea, cheers.

thanks GG,

PICJAG.

LOL
I don't agree!

If Jesus is the 2nd person of the Trinity,,,
how can He also be the 1st person of the Trinity?

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