Deception Leading Straight to the Antichrist

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Hello n2thelight,

Curious how you see him (the anti-christ) setting himself up 'in the temple' to be worshipped,
And especially with regards to 'putting an end to the daily sacrifice'...

I believe the Church is God's temple, and that it is referring to the outlawing of the Divine Liturgy and the sacrifice of the Eucharist... (If 'Christ' has returned, there is no more reason for this)

For the faithful, this command to cease offering the Eucharist and worship of the one who commands its cessation, will positively identify 'the man of sin'

Will he set up shop in Jerusalem? Of course, how else could he be heralded by Jew, muslim and 'christian' all as the messiah, Christ. Mahdi.....

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There’s only ONE book that matters to a true Christian, and that’s the Word of God. And that Word of God is your very life source.
A good posting on the deception of the 'rapture to heaven' theory.
I have posted and spoken against this wrong teaching for many years now. However, I have had very little success, as those who have chosen to believe it are locked into it and are virtually incapable of changing.
I see this as the Lord's doing, as when those who think they won't have to face trials and testing; do find themselves still here when the Anti-Christ rises to power, will be easily swayed into joining the One World Govt and taking their mark.

The Lord did it before, when He separated the kingdoms of Israel and Judah; 1 Kings 12:24
I see it as Jesus winnowing fork, Matthew 3:12, the way He will separate those with the true faith and trust in His protection, Zephaniah 2:3, 1 Corinthians 10:13, Psalms 37:9, +, from those who imagine they are good enough to have a 'go directly to heaven', card.
 
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Curious how you see him (the anti-christ) setting himself up 'in the temple' to be worshipped,
And especially with regards to 'putting an end to the daily sacrifice'...

I believe the Church is God's temple, and that it is referring to the outlawing of the Divine Liturgy and the sacrifice of the Eucharist... (If 'Christ' has returned, there is no more reason for this)
We Christians are the Spiritual Temple of the Lord, during this Christian era.
This does not preclude a physical Temple being built before the Return of Jesus. It is proved by 2 Thess 2:4 and Revelation 11:1 We build churchs, cathedral's, etc, why not a Temple dedicated to the Lord in Jerusalem? Exactly as Ezekiel 40 to 46 describes.
The Anti-Christ will rule from it for the final 3 1/2 years of the age. Revelation 13:5-8
 

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We Christians are the Spiritual Temple of the Lord, during this Christian era

Agreed. And thus no other temple need be built...,

Do you really expect the old covenant sacrifices to resume?

Or that the 'end of the daily sacrifice' can be anything other than the Christian oblation?

Peace!
 

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Agreed. And thus no other temple need be built...
The third temple will have nothing to do with whether or not Christians are the temple of God. It will have everything to do with the fulfilment of prophecies and the reign of the Antichrist. Take some time to carefully study this matter instead of going along with the mantra "Christians are the temple of God, therefore there is no need for the third temple".
 
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Hello n2thelight,

Curious how you see him (the anti-christ) setting himself up 'in the temple' to be worshipped,
And especially with regards to 'putting an end to the daily sacrifice'...

I believe the Church is God's temple, and that it is referring to the outlawing of the Divine Liturgy and the sacrifice of the Eucharist... (If 'Christ' has returned, there is no more reason for this)

For the faithful, this command to cease offering the Eucharist and worship of the one who commands its cessation, will positively identify 'the man of sin'

Will he set up shop in Jerusalem? Of course, how else could he be heralded by Jew, muslim and 'christian' all as the messiah, Christ. Mahdi.....

Peace be with you!

I agree ,that's how he will do that,"if they think that Christ has returned "

People don't understand,satan is supernatural ,they think he just gonna posses some mere man,but he's coming here,HIM,live and in person,with his angels.
 

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The Any-Moment-Now Rapture Theory: a Deception Leading Straight to the Antichrist by Steve Barwick Of all of the controversies among Christians, there is none greater than that of the so-called “any moment now” rapture theory, also known as the pre-tribulation rapture. Those who believe in the rapture cling to it tenaciously, like the cartoon character Linus clinging to his security blanket. Unfortunately, there’s absolutely NO Biblical support for “the rapture” as it is commonly taught by Christian ministers today. None whatsoever.

The Scriptures simply will not support it. Yes, there’s a spectacular "gathering together" of the saints. But as we’ll see in this study, it occurs here on this earth at Christ's Second Advent. No one is flitting off into the sky to fly away with Jesus. Instead, our Lord and Savior is returning to this earth – permanently -- to rule and reign as LORD of Lords and KING of kings. And as Christ Jesus makes His triumphant return, His faithful Christian saints here on this earth will indeed be gathered together to be with Him to join that great spiritual army from heaven that arrives to this earth with Him and accompanies Him to His earthly destination, which is Jerusalem. As we’re told in the great book of Jude, verses 14 and 15, at His second advent Christ is coming here to this earth, with “ten thousands of His saints” to put an end to ungodliness:

“Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convinct all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” And as it’s written again in the great book of Revelation, chapter 9, He’s coming to this earth with His heavenly armies to set things right: Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called.

I fairly recently began studying Revelations and I was surprised to learn that "Rapture" is nowhere in Scripture - yet many Christians believe in it. We're not to "add one jot or tittle" to the holy book and yet that's what it seems pastors have done.

One thing I do hope is that the end will happen soon. I was upset after reading the news last night - we do not live in a democracy anymore. Everything that was foretold about the last days has come to pass. I just wonder how long God is going to allow it all to go on. So I am very much looking forward to the new heaven and new earth.
 
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I fairly recently began studying Revelations and I was surprised to learn that "Rapture" is nowhere in Scripture - yet many Christians believe in it. We're not to "add one jot or tittle" to the holy book and yet that's what it seems pastors have done.

One thing I do hope is that the end will happen soon. I was upset after reading the news last night - we do not live in a democracy anymore. Everything that was foretold about the last days has come to pass. I just wonder how long God is going to allow it all to go on. So I am very much looking forward to the new heaven and new earth.

Soverign Grace said >> "I fairly recently began studying Revelations and I was surprised to learn that "Rapture" is nowhere in Scripture - yet many Christians believe in it."

You haven't found it in the Bible, because you are just "beginning" to study Revelation. And perhaps that is also n2thelight's problem, but it is all in there, Rev 6 & 7.

In Rev 6, a period of martyrdom transpires with the opening of the 5th Seal:

"When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also."

So, clearly the saints will remain on earth until the number of those who are to be killed is complete.

Then just before the 7th seal is opened God says to the Angels Hold on!! “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.” Rev 7. Everything is put on hold until the 144,000 have been sealed, protecting them from the 7th seal when God's wrath is poured out in full measure.

And as the Times of the Gentiles ends, all the saints are taken up: "I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb" . . “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come **OUT** of the great tribulation. Rev 7:9

Note that John was not told 'these are ones who came before the Tribulation, but they who come "OUT of the great tribulation". That was the last event to take place before commencement of the **GREAT** tribulation, when God unleashes His full fury upon the remaining Godless inhabitants of the earth, with the opening of the 7th Seal.
 
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If the any moment rapture theory is heading us straight to the antichrist, then who do you say is the antichrist. (I'd like to recheck my road map). Please try to answer in two or three sentences.
 

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I fairly recently began studying Revelations and I was surprised to learn that "Rapture" is nowhere in Scripture - yet many Christians believe in it. We're not to "add one jot or tittle" to the holy book and yet that's what it seems pastors have done.
The term "Rapture" is merely shorthand for the catching up of the saints at the Resurrection/Rapture when Christ comes for the Church. Just because that word is not there does not mean that it is invalid. It is derived from the Latin rapiemur in the Vulgate in 1 Thess 4:17.

quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur [caught up] cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus ( 1 Thess 4:16,17)

So nobody is tampering with the Word of God, and you should not cast aspersion on the pastors who teach this doctrine.
 

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And as the Times of the Gentiles ends, all the saints are taken up: "I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb"
Heaven is not mentioned as the place where the vast multitude gather. Rev 7:9
Chapter 7 starts by setting an earthly scene and never changes.
That it does happen on earth, in Jerusalem, is proved by many prophesies about the gathering of the faithful Christians into all of the holy Land; before Jesus Returns.
God's throne is a spiritual thing and can be seen from the earth, as Ezekiel 1:1 and Acts 7:56 prove.
 

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If one is unable to distinguish (as is the OP) between the Second Coming and the Rapture, you should not expect a coherent answer in two sentences.
The 'rapture' or as better described; the transportation of those who remain to where Jesus is, as per 1 Thess 4:17, Matthew 24:31, happens at the Return.

Jesus said 5 times that people going to live in heaven was impossible. John 3:13, +
 
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Soverign Grace said >> "I fairly recently began studying Revelations and I was surprised to learn that "Rapture" is nowhere in Scripture - yet many Christians believe in it."

You haven't found it in the Bible, because you are just "beginning" to study Revelation. And perhaps that is also n2thelight's problem, but it is all in there, Rev 6 & 7.

In Rev 6, a period of martyrdom transpires with the opening of the 5th Seal:

"When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also."

So, clearly the saints will remain on earth until the number of those who are to be killed is complete.

Then just before the 7th seal is opened God says to the Angels Hold on!! “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.” Rev 7. Everything is put on hold until the 144,000 have been sealed, protecting them from the 7th seal when God's wrath is poured out in full measure.

And as the Times of the Gentiles ends, all the saints are taken up: "I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb" . . “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come **OUT** of the great tribulation. Rev 7:9

Note that John was not told 'these are ones who came before the Tribulation, but they who come "OUT of the great tribulation". That was the last event to take place before commencement of the **GREAT** tribulation, when God unleashes His full fury upon the remaining Godless inhabitants of the earth, with the opening of the 7th Seal.

Yes but nowhere is the word "Rapture" used.
 

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The term "Rapture" is merely shorthand for the catching up of the saints at the Resurrection/Rapture when Christ comes for the Church. Just because that word is not there does not mean that it is invalid. It is derived from the Latin rapiemur in the Vulgate in 1 Thess 4:17.

quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur [caught up] cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus ( 1 Thess 4:16,17)

So nobody is tampering with the Word of God, and you should not cast aspersion on the pastors who teach this doctrine.

I want to step carefully with any teaching; early on I was badly misled, before I had developed any discernment. So I have learned to be wary.

1 John 4:1
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
 

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I see this as the Lord's doing, as when those who think they won't have to face trials and testing; do find themselves still here when the Anti-Christ rises to power, will be easily swayed into joining the One World Govt and taking their mark.

Yes, we are all very weak of mind and heart!

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to live in heaven was impossible. John 3:13,
This just says that no one had ascended into heaven on their own. This does not say that no one has been taken into heaven, or that no man can live in heaven.

Much love!
 

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Heaven is not mentioned as the place where the vast multitude gather. Rev 7:9
Chapter 7 starts by setting an earthly scene and never changes.
Hi Keraz,

Where are they opening the seals?

Much love!