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n2thelight

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Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.What cup do you all think Christ is referring too,and what did He mean by ,take it away?I feel He is talking about the cup of wrath that He will pour out when He returns,what say you all.
 

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Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.What cup do you all think Christ is referring too,and what did He mean by ,take it away?I feel He is talking about the cup of wrath that He will pour out when He returns
For what reason?
 

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For the very same reason that Christ's "capture" was allowed to happen. I think it was the prayer of Christ in the flesh saying it's not yet time so I would definitely agree with you on the nature of that cup being the cup of wrath. Obviously, Jesus was putting off holding this cup because he easily could have turned it on those who would crucify him.Psalms 75:8 For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them.
 

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For the very same reason that Christ's "capture" was allowed to happen. I think it was the prayer of Christ in the flesh saying it's not yet time so I would definitely agree with you on the nature of that cup being the cup of wrath. Obviously, Jesus was putting off holding this cup because he easily could have turned it on those who would crucify him.Psalms 75:8 For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them.
If, as I suppose we agree, Jesus drank fully the cup of Mark 14, why is there a cup to be poured out at the Second Coming? Are there not two quite separate cups to be considered?
 

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Consider the actions here, pointer. Why would a cup that Jesus gave to drink for his blood be the cup that he wanted God to take away from him later at Gethsemane? Why would Jesus ask for God to take away something that he had given others?The answer is simple. They're not the same cup. The importance of this cup that Jesus was praying about can be seen because this is the cup that is poured out on the day of the Lord. This is a very specific day spoken of in Psalms 75 in which Jesus the Christ will return, not as a babe lying in a manager but as the King of kings and the Lord of lords. He will judge and he will pour out the wrath of that cup:Revelation 14:7-10Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:Romans 2:16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.John 5:22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
 

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Consider the actions here, pointer. Why would a cup that Jesus gave to drink for his blood be the cup that he wanted God to take away from him later at Gethsemane? Why would Jesus ask for God to take away something that he had given others?The answer is simple. They're not the same cup.
More or less true, but is either of them the cup of the Second Coming?
The importance of this cup that Jesus was praying about can be seen because this is the cup that is poured out on the day of the Lord.
So Jesus did not drink the cup of Mark 14? It is waiting for the Second Coming?