Three earth ages

Davy · Jul 28, 2019

Just so the brethren know, some folks have been brainwashed into the 'Kingdom now here on earth' thinking, when our Lord Jesus'
Kingdom which He promised to physically reign over with us has not come yet. It will only begin at His 2nd coming back to this earth, which is still sometime in the future.

Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3 taught about 3 world ages. One only need to read the Scripture.

1. "the world that then was" - 2 Pet.3:6
2. "the heavens and the earth, which are now" - 2 Pet.3:7
3. "new heavens and a new earth" - 2 Pet. 3:13

We are in the 2nd one.

The 3rd one will not come until after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect on earth, which that reign will begin at His 2nd coming sometime in our near future.

ScottA · Jul 28, 2019

Davy said:
You're not qualified, nor authorized to come up with your own Bible parables. We are to speak plainly, not in riddles. Just because our Lord Jesus did it doesn't mean He gave us authority to do it. As for your reply, it reveals you really don't have a clue as to what Apostle Paul was talking about there in that Romans 8 section I covered. Nor did you even understand my simple explanation there of a deep mystery hard to be understood that Paul gave there.

You do not understand what it is that has been given, nor who is speaking. I did not mention myself, nor do I claim anything other than Christ. What you have said, you say to Him...and this according to Him, not me.

justbyfaith · Jul 28, 2019

Davy said:
Then you understand what all he said in his post #12? Explain it to me please, paragraph by paragraph:

ScottA said:
"This is good when it comes to teaching the principles as they were made manifest in the likeness of their heavenly counter parts, but not in the plain truth. In other words, God has spoken in the world and by creation [only] in the likeness of the subject, by using manifest objects. This is the mystery of His use of parables. But as in all parables the object is never the subject, for it is intentionally only a "likeness." Even in the scriptures, this is true, so that they are foolishness to those who do not discern them spiritually. Which is to say, the words are not to be taken literally...except...as they are understood spiritually. Speaking in tongues is another example of this.

Therefore, what you have referred to in the scriptures, does not point to a physical next world, but rather a spiritual world...as God is spirit. Which makes all of this present world a form of show-and-tell for the "children" of God, in the language of children. This is that need to "sharpen up" you referred to, unto the spiritual maturity of Christ who, if we are to actually "follow", committed only His spirit to the Father, but not His physical body, which He laid down. That is that "next world", that we to lay down this flesh and physical body, that we should be set free from it's captivity and decay.

Now then...in spiritual discernment, meaning in the form of God whom is spirit, rather than in the form of men whom are flesh; we have need to more fully understand our "created" form, in order to understand that "world that was" and "the world to come."

The world before and after are only "worlds" by the elementary description and use of child language, but are not worlds at all. The more correct word is "eternity." Thus, we have heard of the world that was and will be, in the terms of this world that now is. But in reality the world that was and will be is not what was or will by, but rather just as it is with God: "I am." Likewise, it is written that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever...but that does not describe God as living in three eternities, but rather only one. So being "created" in a "created" world of time which was also "created", all of this needs to be translated from "yesterday, today, and forever" into "I am."

So...there are not three worlds, but eternity (with God) and time (without God). Which, in translation, eternity, unlike time, does not exist on a timeline. This is why it is written that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven (of God). Because the spirit goes where it will, but the flesh does not, but rather only where it is placed as it was in the beginning, in the creation of the world.

So the world to come is not a world at all, but eternity with God, which all the created world only points to."

I don't think that I understand all that @ScottA wrote there; and neither do I want to expound upon it: but neither do I consider it to be identifiable as a parable.

Davy · Jul 28, 2019

justbyfaith said:
I don't think that I understand all that @ScottA wrote there; and neither do I want to expound upon it: but neither do I consider it to be identifiable as a parable.

Since you don't care to explain what he was saying, nor will I give an explanation of how it is like speaking in parables.

Davy · Jul 28, 2019

justbyfaith said:
I don't think that I understand all that @ScottA wrote there; and neither do I want to expound upon it: but neither do I consider it to be identifiable as a parable.

On 2nd thought, I think I will help you (and others who want to read it) with what ScottA said. My reply to what he wrote in Green:

ScottA:
"This is good when it comes to teaching the principles as they were made manifest in the likeness of their heavenly counter parts, but not in the plain truth."

This above is pretty much gibberish. To first understand, one must know what "principles" he is talking about, and then that idea of "made manifest in the likeness of their heavenly counter parts" would have to be defined. We already know what our "plain truth" is; it's the Word of God, but we can't be sure what ScottA's "plain truth" is because he didn't declare it after that phrase, but instead left the idea hanging. He didn't define either ideas, but just threw it out like we ought... to know what he was talking about. Thus it's like parable-style speech, which in his case amounts to nothing because in God's parables, He used objects everyone easily knows about and can understand.

ScottA
"In other words, God has spoken in the world and by creation [only] in the likeness of the subject, by using manifest objects. This is the mystery of His use of parables. But as in all parables the object is never the subject, for it is intentionally only a "likeness." Even in the scriptures, this is true, so that they are foolishness to those who do not discern them spiritually. Which is to say, the words are not to be taken literally...except...as they are understood spiritually. Speaking in tongues is another example of this."

God's parables are actually meant to make His Truth more easy to understand. And it's all in the sense of using analogy or allegory, which peoples in all... languages use. Some people have a gift with words and can gild-the-Lilly greatly when describing something (brings to mind the writer Thomas Wolfe). God often uses agricultural terms as analogy for His spiritual Truths. So His parables ain't about mysticism and that occult mystery school hocus-pocus stuff. It's just another way to say something deeper and profound. Speaking in tongues has absolutely nothing... to do with the subject matter, since when the Apostles spoke on Pentecost, each person present understood them in the very dialects of their own town of birth.

Thus none of what ScottA had said so far even begins to apply to what I covered in Romans 8 by Apostle Paul.

ScottA
"Therefore, what you have referred to in the scriptures, does not point to a physical next world, but rather a spiritual world...as God is spirit."

That of course is a very false statement, because Apostle Paul began the subject about the world to come, comparing it with this present world time. Romans 8:23 makes this point easily also.

ScottA · Jul 28, 2019

Davy said:
On 2nd thought, I think I will help you (and others who want to read it) with what ScottA said. My reply to what he wrote in Green:

ScottA:
"This is good when it comes to teaching the principles as they were made manifest in the likeness of their heavenly counter parts, but not in the plain truth."

This above is pretty much gibberish. To first understand, one must know what "principles" he is talking about, and then that idea of "made manifest in the likeness of their heavenly counter parts" would have to be defined. We already know what our "plain truth" is; it's the Word of God, but we can't be sure what ScottA's "plain truth" is because he didn't declare it after that phrase, but instead left the idea hanging. He didn't define either ideas, but just threw it out like we ought... to know what he was talking about. Thus it's like parable-style speech, which in his case amounts to nothing because in God's parables, He used objects everyone easily knows about and can understand.

And I will reply (one at at time) as well:

I was referring to what Paul called "the elementary principles of Christ"...which apparently, you did not recognize.

The point being that you have proposed to speculate what Jesus referred to as "the third day" which was Him going to the Father, whom is spirit. But you have wrongly attempted to do so by natural means in the terms of the second day. In other words, you are not rightly dividing the word of truth, but are thinking as men think and are mixing what is of the world with that which is spirit. This you do with no apparent understanding that "what is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit"; or the proper order and identity as being "the natural, and afterward the spiritual." The end result of which...is that your exhortation does not "press on" "leaving behind" those "elementary principles", but has you "turning again to the beggarly elements."

But you are also under the wrong impression regarding the word of God: The word of God is not "the plain truth", but rather God speaking "things kept secret from the foundation of the world" (in parables); a truth that must be "discerned spiritually", that is "foolishness" if read in "plain" and simple language. This is all from the scriptures...but your idea of it being "plain truth" is contrary to what is written.

And, no, even the apostles had to ask Jesus what He meant when speaking the token parables.

But, the fact that Jesus did speak in parables should have resounded the words of God, wherein Jesus made it clear that with all of what was "plain" and public, "all things come in parables." Which is to say, every scripture.

justbyfaith · Jul 28, 2019

The thing about Romans 8:23, is that the adoption, the redemption of the body, is something that is indicated in past tense for the Galatians in Galatians 4:5-7. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 also speaks of the redemption of the body; as does Ephesians 5:30-32 w/ 1 John 3:5.

Also of importance is Romans 6:6 and Colossians 2:11.

[Rom 6:6 KJV] 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

[Col 2:11 KJV] 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

The body of sin, being, the encapsulation of that which is sinful within us; and the body of the sins of the flesh, being, the encapsulation of that which is sinful within our flesh.

ScottA · Jul 28, 2019

Davy said:
ScottA
"In other words, God has spoken in the world and by creation [only] in the likeness of the subject, by using manifest objects. This is the mystery of His use of parables. But as in all parables the object is never the subject, for it is intentionally only a "likeness." Even in the scriptures, this is true, so that they are foolishness to those who do not discern them spiritually. Which is to say, the words are not to be taken literally...except...as they are understood spiritually. Speaking in tongues is another example of this."

God's parables are actually meant to make His Truth more easy to understand. And it's all in the sense of using analogy or allegory, which peoples in all... languages use. Some people have a gift with words and can gild-the-Lilly greatly when describing something (brings to mind the writer Thomas Wolfe). God often uses agricultural terms as analogy for His spiritual Truths. So His parables ain't about mysticism and that occult mystery school hocus-pocus stuff. It's just another way to say something deeper and profound. Speaking in tongues has absolutely nothing... to do with the subject matter, since when the Apostles spoke on Pentecost, each person present understood them in the very dialects of their own town of birth.

Thus none of what ScottA had said so far even begins to apply to what I covered in Romans 8 by Apostle Paul.

Now you directly contradict (speak against) Jesus saying “I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world” and “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?"; and against Paul who said, "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

As for speaking in tongues...you just broke your own rule, as it was me "using analogy." But thanks for confirming my point that, it is the Spirit who makes the words clear, which otherwise are not.

ScottA · Jul 28, 2019

Davy said:
ScottA
"Therefore, what you have referred to in the scriptures, does not point to a physical next world, but rather a spiritual world...as God is spirit."

That of course is a very false statement, because Apostle Paul began the subject about the world to come, comparing it with this present world time. Romans 8:23 makes this point easily also.

Paul is not referring to something "comparable", but rather comparing the groanings of the natural world with "those who are alive and remain" in the natural. The point is, the natural is completely different, not comparable with what is to come.

You are suggesting that darkness is comparable to light. It's not. Which is the point of all of what I have been saying: The allegory comparisons used by God in all creation and scripture to make the heavenly subjects known to men...does not make the world heavenly. On the contrary, it is the mystery and miracle of God that in the world He has defied human logic (and plain speech) making His "strength perfect in weakness."

This is the mystery of the parables.

aspen · Jul 28, 2019

JRR Tolkien must have been a prophet....

I want a Hobbit house, if we are going to do this thing

marks · Jul 29, 2019

Davy said:
The best definition of the word science is about the scientific method which Francis Bacon gave to the world. Every university degree that is a Bachelor of Science degree must teach that 'scientific method'. That doesn't make the field of science perfect, because it's true that some things involving operation of the scientific method can cause influence on the results. Still doesn't mean a certain amount of accurate results can't be gotten. One of the points of the method is repeatability.

What you're referring to involves science of the old world. You probably don't realize you're not being told the whole story by today's scientists. I once read a quote from the 19th century western scout Buffalo Bill. So I bought a copy of his autobiography to see if he really said it. He mentioned that some Pawnee Indians brought a large bone to camp, and the camp doctor verified it was a human femur bone. They told him there was once a race of people that walked the earth, large people. When they hunted buffalo, they ran with the buffalo, grabbed one and tore off its leg and ate while running with the Buffalo. They said they hated the great white spirit, and laughed at thunder and lightening, and that a flood came driving them to the mountains, and then finally destroyed them.

There has existed many 19th century newspaper articles where bones in so-called Indian burial mounts were found, some still with red hair on their skulls, ranging from 9 to 11 feet tall, and Smithsonian reps were brought in to survey. Why aren't those artifacts on display? And what would their existence show us?

The powers that be do not want science to prove God's Word as correct. God's Word contains much science, just not pseudo-science that man creates, like the theory evolution.

There are evidences God left of the old world which n2thelight is talking about. Fossils of human footprints found within the footprints of dinosaur fossils are one such example. There used to be some prime examples at Dinosaur Valley State Park in Texas, but some evolutionists destroyed many of them. Some of these fossils showed a perfect human arch footprint, and the mud around the footprint showed some of the mud squirting around as it sunk into the mud, something difficult to mimic. It shows the human footprint happened at the same time as the dinosaur footprint, and both fossilized together. Really don't need a carbon dating to determine how old that is; it's easy to know the dinosaurs existed long ago. The woolly mammoth discovered buried in ice in the Arctic, still with vegetation in its mouth and undigested in it stomach, also reveals an event that happened long ago. What scientists cannot seem to grasp is how the mammoth was frozen at an instant, because this is shown by the vegetation in its mouth and stomach not decayed, and condition of the mammoth not showing decay.

God left us some pointers to the old world in His Word. Those not familiar with that part of His Word don't realize how much pseudo-science has crept into the pulpits and is taught as God's Word instead.

I think all these things are better explained by the Deluge.

Much love!

Davy · Jul 29, 2019

marks said:
I think all these things are better explained by the Deluge.

Much love!

A deeper study in God's Word reveals there have been 2 deluges though.

The earth being without form and void per Gen.1:2 and Jer.4:23, in the Hebrew, isn't about a science of nothingness like in some sci-fi movie. The Hebrew words used there, like tohuw va bohuw, represents the idea of something that was once in a good state having gone bad. That is how the word tohuw is used in the majority of cases in the OT. God's original perfect creation was at Gen.1:1. The creation having been put in a state of vanity, bondage to corruption, like Apostle Paul taught in Romans 8, is what that Gen.1:2 verse is about. Water was covering the whole earth, a deluge destroyed the Gen.1:1 perfect creation. Then God moved the waters on the earth and created today's atmosphere above the earth, and then moved the rest of the waters covering the earth until the dry land appeared, (actually re-appeared). The Gen.1:1 verse is not a summary statement, with the following verses being details of that summary, which is how it is most often understood and taught. From Gen.1:2 to the deluge of Noah's day is part of this present world.

Discover just when it was when Satan first coveted God's throne and drew a third of the angels in rebellion with him. If you stay true with Scripture, you'll discover it was before this present world, before Adam and Eve.

Davy · Jul 29, 2019

justbyfaith said:
The thing about Romans 8:23, is that the adoption, the redemption of the body, is something that is indicated in past tense for the Galatians in Galatians 4:5-7. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 also speaks of the redemption of the body; as does Ephesians 5:30-32 w/ 1 John 3:5.

Also of importance is Romans 6:6 and Colossians 2:11.

[Rom 6:6 KJV] 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

[Col 2:11 KJV] 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

The body of sin, being, the encapsulation of that which is sinful within us; and the body of the sins of the flesh, being, the encapsulation of that which is sinful within our flesh.

Why do so many folks always fight against what The Holy Spirit teaches in Scripture?

Rom 8:22-25
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
KJV

As a believer on Christ Jesus, if you do not still to this day await that redemption in hope, then you are saying that He has already returned and completely fulfilled His Kingdom today, and that you are with Him reigning over the nations!

NO, afraid not... you are not redeemed yet per the kind of redemption Paul is speaking of above, for he is pointing to the blessed hope of Christ's return and our salvation!

marks · Jul 29, 2019

Davy said:
The earth being without form and void per Gen.1:2 and Jer.4:23, in the Hebrew, isn't about a science of nothingness like in some sci-fi movie. The Hebrew words used there, like tohuw va bohuw, represents the idea of something that was once in a good state having gone bad.

Empty and unfinished.

But the clincher is in the 10 commandments, that God created the earth and heaven and everything in them in 6 days, and the 7th day was rest, and so Israel was to work 6 days, and the 7th day to rest.

much love!

ScottA · Jul 29, 2019

Davy said:
...25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. KJV

As a believer on Christ Jesus, if you do not still to this day await that redemption in hope, then you are saying that He has already returned and completely fulfilled His Kingdom today, and that you are with Him reigning over the nations!

NO, afraid not... you are not redeemed yet per the kind of redemption Paul is speaking of above, for he is pointing to the blessed hope of Christ's return and our salvation!

You are stumbling over human logic, not seeing Jesus "as He is." 1 John 3:2

By doing so, you make the born again out to be liars, or worse, you make Jesus a liar...all because you do not understand. Yet here you are making claims against what is written.

But anyone can reason their way through this problem if they are honest. Just ask yourself:

After coming in the flesh, did Jesus go (to the Father)?

Since Jesus went to the Father, has He come and entered into any Christian?

If you answered No to either of those questions, you are not qualified to give an opinion.

If you answered Yes to both questions, you have your answer: You yourself have admitted that Jesus "came in the flesh" and also "returned" in the [spiritual] glory of the Father, according to the scriptures.

Or...you are just not being honest, and the truth has not set you free.

Pick one. This is not rocket science.

justbyfaith · Jul 29, 2019

Davy said:
Why do so many folks always fight against what The Holy Spirit teaches in Scripture?

Rom 8:22-25
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
KJV

As a believer on Christ Jesus, if you do not still to this day await that redemption in hope, then you are saying that He has already returned and completely fulfilled His Kingdom today, and that you are with Him reigning over the nations!

NO, afraid not... you are not redeemed yet per the kind of redemption Paul is speaking of above, for he is pointing to the blessed hope of Christ's return and our salvation!

It is clear from Galatians 4:5-7 that the adoption was accomplished in the Galatian believers. The adoption is defined as the redemption of the body in Romans 8:23. This is also spoken of in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 and Ephesians 5:30-32 w/ 1 John 3:5.

As for this:

Davy said:
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

It is answered very simply by this:

Heb 11:1, Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

You can abide in hope alone, and it will save you: but you will still be waiting for that which you are hoping for.

However, you can move on to faith; and you will have the substance of what you hope for and the evidence of what you do not see.

What is it that you hope for and do not see? The redemption of the body.

If there is a substance to this and an evidence for it, then it is here...

n2thelight · Jul 29, 2019

ScottA said:
n2thelight,

This is man's thinking.

You can discover much through science, but all of it comes under the umbrella of men speculating about what they can understand at their level. That is like a group of kindergarteners theorizing their playroom. Even if they come up with the fact that parents placed them there and there are four walls and a stranger called "Teacher", or a host of other silly speculations...they are kindergarteners. What do they really know?

Better than that is to imagine that we were all born into a big room and no one had ever been out or seen outside the room. Who then (in the room) could tell you what was outside? A scientist, because he can give you the chemical makeup of the room? A teacher because he has learned all the knowledge available in the big room? Anyone? No...the point is, the only way that anyone can know what is outside or beyond man, is if the information comes in from the outside. That is what the Bible is, a written record of authorized data that has come from the outside in by personal encounter, from God to men.

Since the Bible was written, or about the time that it stopped being written, God (according to His own revelation from the outside in) tore down the wall limiting our access between God and men, and began pouring out His spirit upon all flesh (according to Joel the prophet, repeated by Jesus, and confirmed by Peter...by the mouth of two or three witnesses). As such, we no longer need to speculate, but conjecture based on men's knowledge according to himself, still acquires nothing. And that is what you have here.

As for what the truth is...just as in times past, the truth is revealed, but the masses usually don't accept it until it is established in spite of their refusing to receive it. Nonetheless, the truth is now available (knowledge has been increased). But making suppositions is not the way to attain it. Instead, you should be asking questions.

I disagree but as I said from the OP I'm just planting seeds ,however I will say this,had satan not rebelled we would not had been made flesh.

satans sin was long before man was made in the flesh

n2thelight · Jul 29, 2019

Davy said:
Just so the brethren know, some folks have been brainwashed into the 'Kingdom now here on earth' thinking, when our Lord Jesus'
Kingdom which He promised to physically reign over with us has not come yet. It will only begin at His 2nd coming back to this earth, which is still sometime in the future.

Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3 taught about 3 world ages. One only need to read the Scripture.

1. "the world that then was" - 2 Pet.3:6
2. "the heavens and the earth, which are now" - 2 Pet.3:7
3. "new heavens and a new earth" - 2 Pet. 3:13

We are in the 2nd one.

The 3rd one will not come until after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect on earth, which that reign will begin at His 2nd coming sometime in our near future.

Thank you!!!!!!!

n2thelight · Jul 29, 2019

Enoch111 said:
There is no higher authority than the Ten Commandments, which were written on tablets of stone by the finger of God. And the Ten Commandments REFUTE the above statement. We do know how old the earth is from the chronology of the Bible -- it is approximately 6,061 years old.

Therein lies your mistake,as we were in flesh bodies from around that time,but millions in our spiritual, before the fall of satan

Can you not see when God destroyed that age ,like everything?Let's look at Jeremiah ,where He(God)talks about it.

Jeremiah Chapter four gives us a vast amount of knowledge, information, wisdom, and history. It will tell us in this chapter what happened in the world that was. In other words, with this restoration being promised, He lets us know what will come upon us. He said, "I will utterly destroy you, and if you don't think I will, look back to the first time I did it."

You don't have to look very far to see the results of the last world age destruction. When you go to the tundra of Alaska, and you find dinosaur remains with vegetation stil frozen in their jaws, then you know that there was an sudden freeze by a catastrophic shaking of this earth. This evidence is also found in Russia and many other of the north countries. This shows us that this earth was fertile from the pole to pole. There was no ice cap.

This chapter tells us how these conditions came to pass.

Let's jump to v22

Jeremiah 4:22 "For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge."

God is showing His disappointment in His people here. The work for "sottish" in the Hebrew means "stupid"[Strongs #5530, Cakal, "to play the fool.."]. He is disappointed in His people because of their foolishness, and stupidity in listening and being deceived. He is saying, if you don't think that I am going to bring destruction at the seventh trumpet of this earth age, you had better look back at the first Earth Age. Satan rebelled and I destroyed the entire earth age.

God is setting the stage here for what He did to end that first Earth Age. God is reminding us that His people have been foolish, and always listened to men, and their foolish traditions. They prefer not to listen to God's Word, but the foolish doctrines of men's traditions. Who do you listen to, man or God? The definition of one that has no knowledge, is stupid. There is only one place to gain the knowledge from God, and that is to study God's Word.

Jeremiah 4:23 "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light."

God is telling us here exactly what He did to the earth at one time. This was in the first earth age. The earth spoken of here, is the "erets" as given in the Hebrew text. In Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 776.

God is saying that He was so angry before, in that first earth age, that He totally destroyed everything. In the Hebrew, from Genesis 1:2, "tohu va bohu" which means, "without form and void" "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

God said that He did not create the earth a waste land and void, it became that way when God shook it.

Jeremiah 4:24 "I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly."

Imagine all the hills and mountains around this earth moving in one massive earthquake.

Jeremiah 4:25 "I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."

There was no man, because He destroyed every being on the face of the earth. God destroyed all the birds, and creatures along with man. This is not talking about the flood of Noah, for with the flood of Noah, not only was eight Adamic souls saved but two souls from each race, as well as two of all the animals. Even the Kenites, the sons of Cain came through the flood.

Genesis 6:18 "But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shall come into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."

Genesis 6:19 "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female."

Genesis 6:20 "Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive."

When we look at the plates of the land masses of the earth, it is obvious that there has been a shaking that took place. When Satan fell in that first earth age, there was a flood and destruction that left nothing alive to survive into this earth age. When Noah's flood came God was careful to preserve all flesh, and to take two of every kind aboard the ark. Not only are the animals and birds flesh, but all the races were flesh also, including the Kenites, those sons of Cain.

Jeremiah 4:26 "I beheld, and lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by His fierce anger."

God destroyed all their cities, as well as every man and beast of the field. Did you notice that there were ancient cities in that first earth age. The bible does not disagree that the overthrow took place, and that this earth is millions of years old. However most Bible teachers today say that this earth is only 6,000 years old. Remember what God called those people? Stupid! They can't read the manuscripts, and open their eyes to the evidence around them, and see the truths that God has spoken in His Word.

They like to argue a point in stupidity, and desire to stay away from II Peter 3, where Peter makes it clear that there are three earth ages. They can only understand what sits right before their eyes, and taught in their traditions. Friend, there are many sites scattered all around the earth where there is physical evidence of creatures that existed that are just not in existence today. If the earth is only six thousand years old, why do we have the skeleton remains of so many creatures that roamed the earth far before flesh man was created?

Have you never read the story of the "behemoth" in Job 40:15-19. It is the story of the dinosaurs that roamed the earth millions of years ago, that ate grass like the ox, and had the strength of a cedar tree in his tail. God made this earth to be inhabited, but Satan rebelled and God destroyed the planet.

So many say, why can't we find flesh remains of those men and women that existed then? We are living in the flesh age of man that is common only to this earth age. At the sounding of the seventh and last trumpet, at the coming of the Lord, all flesh will be changed then also, as Paul states in I Corinthians 15:51,-52. "Behold I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," [51] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." [52]

This time is not very far off when all flesh bodies will take on the form of their incorruptible bodies, and the elect of God will also take on their immortality into that incorruptible at that time also. All souls will be in their spiritual bodies then.

justbyfaith · Jul 30, 2019

n2thelight said:
Therein lies your mistake,as we were in flesh bodies from around that time,but millions in our spiritual, before the fall of satan

1Co 15:46, Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

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