ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

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101G

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He can't, because he has proved himself a Troll.
He is not here to discuss or answer....
Hi BG, we know, but you have to call them out.

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PS by the way, how is the weather there. I'll post there soon.
 
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He can't, because he has proved himself a Troll.
He is not here to discuss or answer....
And when the tempter came to him,
he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

As for revealing to you devils the new name of God.

lol

lol

lol

God has given over to me all your children.
Before you pass on to hell you shall see with your own 2 eyes
that to which from the Spirit realm that to which I have done to them.
 

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And when the tempter came to him,
he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

As for revealing to you devils the new name of God.

lol

lol

lol

God has given over to me all your children.
Before you pass on to hell you shall see with your own 2 eyes
that to which from the Spirit realm that to which I have done to them.
Ba hum bug. away with you. you cain't answer a simple question.

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Ba hum bug. away with you. you cain't answer a simple question.

PICJAG.
I am not going to chide you with idle words. I will do like I always do
just wait on the Lord God to rule on this matter between you and I.

You are going to lose
maybe you should prepare for it
for it shall surely be executed upon you..
 

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I am not going to chide you with idle words. I will do like I always do
just wait on the Lord God to rule on this matter between you and I.

You are going to lose
maybe you should prepare for it
for it shall surely be executed upon you..
if you want to talk, that's what Facebook and tweeter are for, gooday. you will be ignored, or have something worth while discussing. which means, see ya.

PICJAG.
 
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And I still love the both of you more than you love me
and hate the both of you less than you hate me.

That would still make you 2 the losers.
And that self elevating self righteous self exalting heap of horse dung reveals your deformities, no one elses.
 
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You would do better to go back down to Georgia with your fiddle.

The guy is firstly a liar because he calls himself a christian on his profile.
and secondly he is an arrogant clown calling himself "executioner. ":rolleyes:
as if he is really somebody important!! lol
He is nothing but a stupid little worthless toy of the devil.
 

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The guy is firstly a liar because he calls himself a christian on his profile.
and secondly he is an arrogant clown calling himself "executioner. ":rolleyes:
as if he is really somebody important!! lol
He is nothing but a stupid little worthless toy of the devil.
"toy of the devil" is right! So, he's claiming peoples children on here??? That is quite satanic. I wonder what his NAMES are? Mmmm...LEGION!
 

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The guy is firstly a liar because he calls himself a christian on his profile.
and secondly he is an arrogant clown calling himself "executioner. ":rolleyes:
as if he is really somebody important!! lol
He is nothing but a stupid little worthless toy of the devil.
BG, these kind must be ignored, but do what our Lord did, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".

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In the beginning of creation was the Word of God,
And the Word of God was one with God.
God was His Word.
Given that this is a debate group, I'll get the ball rolling with a question. Some translations say, "and the word was God", while this one says, "God was his word". Do we have any good reasons for this articulation rather than the other? What are the ramifications? Which makes more sense?

I think that "the word was god" fits better with what preceded it because it doesn't say, "in the beginning was God", but "in the beginning was the word". So the first sentence seems to point out that it is the word that exists, or perhaps more accurately, the word simply is. The word's origin is God as Paul points out in 1 Cor.8:6 so it stands to reason that the word is God rather than God is the word.

It is only the word that can be God as God is the origin of the word, or as the Old Testament authors point out, God is potential, e.g. (JHVH which means 'I will be') What will be becomes the word.
 

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Given that this is a debate group, I'll get the ball rolling with a question. Some translations say, "and the word was God", while this one says, "God was his word". Do we have any good reasons for this articulation rather than the other? What are the ramifications? Which makes more sense?

I think that "the word was god" fits better with what preceded it because it doesn't say, "in the beginning was God", but "in the beginning was the word". So the first sentence seems to point out that it is the word that exists, or perhaps more accurately, the word simply is. The word's origin is God as Paul points out in 1 Cor.8:6 so it stands to reason that the word is God rather than God is the word.

It is only the word that can be God as God is the origin of the word, or as the Old Testament authors point out, God is potential, e.g. (JHVH which means 'I will be') What will be becomes the word.

Well good luck to you...he does not want a debate...if you read this so called "thread" You would see he is just frustrating...he is not after any real discussion with anyone.

Bless you...Helen
 
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Given that this is a debate group, I'll get the ball rolling with a question. Some translations say, "and the word was God", while this one says, "God was his word". Do we have any good reasons for this articulation rather than the other? What are the ramifications? Which makes more sense?

I think that "the word was god" fits better with what preceded it because it doesn't say, "in the beginning was God", but "in the beginning was the word". So the first sentence seems to point out that it is the word that exists, or perhaps more accurately, the word simply is. The word's origin is God as Paul points out in 1 Cor.8:6 so it stands to reason that the word is God rather than God is the word.

It is only the word that can be God as God is the origin of the word, or as the Old Testament authors point out, God is potential, e.g. (JHVH which means 'I will be') What will be becomes the word.
well since you're getting the ball rolling, we will take your ball and go home with it..... Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

well God just put an end to that "god" thinking. there is no "god" with him.

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well since you're getting the ball rolling, we will take your ball and go home with it..... Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

well God just put an end to that "god" thinking. there is no "god" with him.

PICJAG.

Correct, therefore the articulation "the word was god" makes more sense than "god was the word". It also points out that "the word" that was "with god" exists eternally, but it doesn't then follow that the word is God, but that God can only exist in, with, and through "the word". What Deuteronomy only alludes to, John reveals.

That ball bounced into my court, but it's back into yours now...
 

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Correct, therefore the articulation "the word was god" makes more sense than "god was the word". It also points out that "the word" that was "with god" exists eternally, but it doesn't then follow that the word is God, but that God can only exist in, with, and through "the word". What Deuteronomy only alludes to, John reveals.

That ball bounced into my court, but it's back into yours now...
ERROR, the Word is God, scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he". With is the same one person who is the "First" and the "Last". to prove that, God himself said, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last". get that the First is also the Last.

now as for was, ... with God. God diverse himself, Spirit in the shared state of being G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') of oneself and was sent, meaning being found in the fashion as a man. supportive scripture, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross". so he was "without" his attributes, hence "WAS" WITH God, the Spirit, for he is now with man, supportive scripture, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".

the ball never my house... :eek:

PICJAG.
 

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ERROR, the Word is God, scripture, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he". With is the same one person who is the "First" and the "Last". to prove that, God himself said, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last". get that the First is also the Last.

now as for was, ... with God. God diverse himself, Spirit in the shared state of being G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') of oneself and was sent, meaning being found in the fashion as a man. supportive scripture, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross". so he was "without" his attributes, hence "WAS" WITH God, the Spirit, for he is now with man, supportive scripture, Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".

the ball never my house... :eek:

PICJAG.

Is English your second language? Seriously, I can't make heads or tails out of just what you're trying to say in this post. Could you please use complete sentences from now on? I can't even begin to reply to a bunch of words and phrases.
 

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The guy is firstly a liar because he calls himself a christian on his profile.
and secondly he is an arrogant clown calling himself "executioner. ":rolleyes:
as if he is really somebody important!! lol
He is nothing but a stupid little worthless toy of the devil.
I take it that you are never going to obey
the new commandment of Jesus Christ.

I know how He is going to take it.
 

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Well good luck to you...he does not want a debate...if you read this so called "thread" You would see he is just frustrating...he is not after any real discussion with anyone.

Bless you...Helen
You start first I will debate you.