The AoD In Daniel Was Fulfilled

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The pharisees taught the prophecy concerning the abomination of desolation had been fulfilled just as you do.Jesus did not adhear to thier doctrin(Maccabees).
Jesus only spoke the truth of the prophecy concerning to the abomination of desolation which he said is a future event and not what the pharisees had taught the people such as yourself.

I strongly advise that you abandon the doctrin of the Phariaees(Macabees)and stick with the word of God.
Then that means you have ripped most of Daniel out of your Bible, or you are still spinning your wheels studying it, getting more and more confounded each day. There is no future AoD to take place.
Why?
Once prophecy has been fulfilled, it can never be fulfilled again.

But since you still think it's future, then you also must be waiting for a Temple building to be built.
Good luck with that. Why would I say that?
Well, can you picture what the "Animal Rights Activists" would do to anyone who would sacrifice an animal? No, there will be no Temple in Jerusalem either.
 

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That’s not what my Bible says! In both Malachi and Romans, the Spirit of God declares “ALL Israel will be saved”!
So it's necessary that you and I have faith in Jesus to be saved from the 2nd death, but for an unbelieving Jew, that's OK, they are, or will be saved anyways??
And you don't anything WRONG with that picture???
John 3:18 APPLIES to everyone!!
 

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Didn't you hear what I said about what Jesus said?
The KoG was taken from them! Therefore, the promises that God made TO THE JEWS became null and void!!
All, BOTH Jew and Gentile, are now EQUAL in God's eyes, because of the shedding of HIS Son's Blood!! No faith in Him, then no forgiveness for sin, and for sure, no Gift of Eternal Life!!
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And you think that I have been duped/deceived??
Wow! I think it's time for you to look in the mirror!
And you said that you thought, that you wouldn't be that dumb.
 

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No, there will be no Temple in Jerusalem either.
That sounds pretty dogmatic for someone who does not even know that there are already extensive plans in Israel for the rebuilding of the temple.

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Since prophecy must be fulfilled, that temple will be definitely rebuilt and also desecrated by the Antichrist,
 
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Didn't you hear what I said about what Jesus said?
The KoG was taken from them! Therefore, the promises that God made TO THE JEWS became null and void!!
All, BOTH Jew and Gentile, are now EQUAL in God's eyes, because of the shedding of HIS Son's Blood!! No faith in Him, then no forgiveness for sin, and for sure, no Gift of Eternal Life!!
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And you think that I have been duped/deceived??
Wow! I think it's time for you to look in the mirror!
And you said that you thought, that you wouldn't be that dumb.

That promise was given to Israel under God's Covenant, with "Israel, my son, my firstborn.", and the God in whom I trust does not lie!! He gave that promise to ALL the descendants of Jacob/Israel forever!
 
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That sounds pretty dogmatic for someone who does not even know that there are already extensive plans in Israel for the rebuilding of the temple.

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Since prophecy must be fulfilled, that temple will be definitely rebuilt and also desecrated by the Antichrist,

We rarely agree,but as you said that temple will be built for their father,satan
 

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Didn't you hear what I said about what Jesus said?
The KoG was taken from them! Therefore, the promises that God made TO THE JEWS became null and void!!
All, BOTH Jew and Gentile, are now EQUAL in God's eyes, because of the shedding of HIS Son's Blood!! No faith in Him, then no forgiveness for sin, and for sure, no Gift of Eternal Life!!
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And you think that I have been duped/deceived??
Wow! I think it's time for you to look in the mirror!
And you said that you thought, that you wouldn't be that dumb.
He did cause the sacrifice to cease
And boy did He make the temple desolate, so much so the 2000 years later they can’t even figure out where one of the corners were.
Blinded
 
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The abomination of desolation should correctly be translated as the desolator


Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand:)"

This reverence to Daniel the prophet, Makes the book of Daniel part of the New Testament. This reference is directed to Daniel 9:27.

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived.

Daniel 9:27; "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and the determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The Holy place is the place that the temple sits, and this is the subject for the very first, when the buildings of the temple were observed by the disciples, and the question of what it would be like at His second advent. This is where the desolation [Satan, the Antichrist] shall sit on mount Zion, making his abominations, or statements that he is the Christ.

The world will be deceived when Satan claims himself to be Christ, for he does have supernatural powers, and he will use them to to draw the peoples of the world to come to peace. He will say, I am Jesus whom ye have been waiting for, and I have come to bring peace to the world, and the world will be brought to peace and prosperity by Satan, the Antichrist. I feel that this time of world peace will come in a matter of months, or a few years. It will come though.

How did Jesus tell us His coming would be at the second advent? Revelation 19:15, 19 tell us how Jesus will come back to earth, at His second coming:

Revelation 19:15; "And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

Jesus will come with a sharp sword to smite the nations of the earth. He will subdue them like grapes in the winepress, not some sweet mushy talk of peace. Jesus shall rule over them with a rod of Iron, because at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, is the start of the Millennium age. That thousand year age kingdom of Christ will be a time of learning and discipline, there will be no flesh on earth, for all will be changed to their incorruptible bodies, and will be of full sound mind, and capable of learning and understand what is being taught them.

"(Whoso readeth, let him understand:)" This is the statement that has the same meaning as," whosoever heareth, let him understand".
 

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That sounds pretty dogmatic for someone who does not even know that there are already extensive plans in Israel for the rebuilding of the temple.

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Since prophecy must be fulfilled, that temple will be definitely rebuilt and also desecrated by the Antichrist,
You are living in the dream land of "scholarly learned religionists", who have conjured up their fiasco by believing prophecies for the Jews, that were made to be null and void on the day of Jesus' crucifixion. The reality of all that, is when Titus of Rome destroyed Jerusalem and the temple, it is evident that the KoG WAS TAKEN from them.
WHY?
Two prophecies were fulfilled!!
1. The shadow temple, "made with hands", was destroyed in 70AD.

Dan. 9:26... the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
2. The True Temple "made without hands" was revealed.
John[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.
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Ever since the days of Christ's Crucifixion/Resurrection and Pentecost, there has been no need for another Temple building "made with hands", nor shall there be one rebuilt!!
That temple building was replaced BY JESUS!
 

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That promise was given to Israel under God's Covenant, with "Israel, my son, my firstborn.", and the God in whom I trust does not lie!! He gave that promise to ALL the descendants of Jacob/Israel forever!
You don't get it! There is no more Israel as a nation of God. That ALL ENDED as prophesied in the 70 weeks, in 70AD, as Jesus described it!
The Israel we see today is man made, namely by the Rothschilds, who are "Luciferians" (aka the Luciferian Doctrine), and literally do worship the dragon!
 

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The abomination of desolation should correctly be translated as the desolator


Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand:)"

This reverence to Daniel the prophet, Makes the book of Daniel part of the New Testament. This reference is directed to Daniel 9:27.

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived.

Daniel 9:27; "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and the determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The Holy place is the place that the temple sits, and this is the subject for the very first, when the buildings of the temple were observed by the disciples, and the question of what it would be like at His second advent. This is where the desolation [Satan, the Antichrist] shall sit on mount Zion, making his abominations, or statements that he is the Christ.

The world will be deceived when Satan claims himself to be Christ, for he does have supernatural powers, and he will use them to to draw the peoples of the world to come to peace. He will say, I am Jesus whom ye have been waiting for, and I have come to bring peace to the world, and the world will be brought to peace and prosperity by Satan, the Antichrist. I feel that this time of world peace will come in a matter of months, or a few years. It will come though.

How did Jesus tell us His coming would be at the second advent? Revelation 19:15, 19 tell us how Jesus will come back to earth, at His second coming:

Revelation 19:15; "And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

Jesus will come with a sharp sword to smite the nations of the earth. He will subdue them like grapes in the winepress, not some sweet mushy talk of peace. Jesus shall rule over them with a rod of Iron, because at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, is the start of the Millennium age. That thousand year age kingdom of Christ will be a time of learning and discipline, there will be no flesh on earth, for all will be changed to their incorruptible bodies, and will be of full sound mind, and capable of learning and understand what is being taught them.

"(Whoso readeth, let him understand:)" This is the statement that has the same meaning as," whosoever heareth, let him understand".

Luke 13:35 KJV
[35] Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


Tecarta Bible
 

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That sounds pretty dogmatic for someone who does not even know that there are already extensive plans in Israel for the rebuilding of the temple.

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Since prophecy must be fulfilled, that temple will be definitely rebuilt and also desecrated by the Antichrist,

Nice gold crown. Far cry from a crown of thorns. Job 19:9 He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head.

1 Peter 5:4
[4] And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

1 Thessalonians 2:18-20
[18] Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us. [19] For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming? [20] For you are our glory and joy.

1 Corinthians 9:25
[25] And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

You think He desires the image of that gold crown?
 

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You think He desires the image of that gold crown?
Unbelieving Jews (those who do not believe on Jesus the Messiah) sincerely and mistakenly believe that their *true Messiah* will come in the near future and that there must be a temple in Jerusalem when he comes. They are following the instructions in the Torah and the Tanakh for rebuilding that temple. Of course God does not desire their unbelief, but that's the way it is. Some Christians simply cannot see how prophecy will be fulfilled. And yes, the high priest did have a crown of gold.
 
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Hi Enoch, would you please send me the scripture pertaining to this?
You were addressing a comment by n2thelight. But the Scripture is given in Matthew 24:15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)...

The holy place is the inner sanctuary of the Temple, just outside the Holy of Holies. Even though Christ had just prophesied that Herod's temple would be utterly destroyed in AD 70, He spoke of the future AoD, connected it to the Great Tribulation, and following that to His Second Coming. This prophecy was spoken in AD 30, but Daniel had already predicted this around 600 BC, and it had nothing to do with Antiochus Epiphanes (160 BC), because Paul corroborated Christ around AD 51-52 in 2 Thess 2:3,4:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

So while the Abomination of Desolation is set up within the Holy Place, the Antichrist will also sit in the Temple of God at Jerusalem and blatantly proclaim that he is God. Daniel spoke of this Little Horn, or King of Fierce Countenance, as the Arch Blasphemer of God and Christ.
 

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You don't get it! There is no more Israel as a nation of God. That ALL ENDED as prophesied in the 70 weeks, in 70AD, as Jesus described it!
The Israel we see today is man made, namely by the Rothschilds, who are "Luciferians" (aka the Luciferian Doctrine), and literally do worship the dragon!

Two baskets of figs came back to form that nation,the bad figs are what ,as you truly state are the Rothchilds and they do the work of their father whom is satan.However a good basket of figs came also
 

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You were addressing a comment by n2thelight. But the Scripture is given in Matthew 24:15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)...

The holy place is the inner sanctuary of the Temple, just outside the Holy of Holies. Even though Christ had just prophesied that Herod's temple would be utterly destroyed in AD 70, He spoke of the future AoD, connected it to the Great Tribulation, and following that to His Second Coming. This prophecy was spoken in AD 30, but Daniel had already predicted this around 600 BC, and it had nothing to do with Antiochus Epiphanes (160 BC), because Paul corroborated Christ around AD 51-52 in 2 Thess 2:3,4:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

So while the Abomination of Desolation is set up within the Holy Place, the Antichrist will also sit in the Temple of God at Jerusalem and blatantly proclaim that he is God. Daniel spoke of this Little Horn, or King of Fierce Countenance, as the Arch Blasphemer of God and Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:16 KJV
[16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?


Tecarta BibleAre you sure the temple that Paul is referring too is the building in Jerusalem at the time he wrote this??
 

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1 Corinthians 3:16 KJV
[16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Why did you post this verse in connection with the Antichrist? It has absolutely no relevance.
Are you sure the temple that Paul is referring too is the building in Jerusalem at the time he wrote this??
Positive. 100%. There was no one between 50 and 70 AD sitting in the temple of God claiming to be God. That temple was destroyed.
 
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