Who is a “Christian”?

Not me · Aug 11, 2019

CNKW3 said:
Where’s your verse or verses for that teaching?

Be blessed in Christ, Not me

amadeus · Aug 11, 2019

CNKW3 said:
So you don’t believe that one is saved BEFORE water baptism?

I did not say that. He that endures to the end shall be saved:

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matt 10:22

He’s already provided ALL the help we need. It’s in the Bible, the book he left us.
Peter said...
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Paul said..
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

And what then is the need for the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit?

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

Can a man correctly understand what he reads and studies in the written Bible without the lead of the Holy Spirit?

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

Without the Spirit the Bible will be misunderstood as we see that it has been by the innumerable denominations in existence with contradictory beliefs based on their interpretations of the written Bible.

You MUST ask according to HIS WILL. 1 Jn 5:14.
How do we know his will? Through his word he gave us. You and others just make up your own will and then say it is his.

A follower of Christ seeks the will of God and follows the lead of the Holy Spirit as he reads his Bible and talks to God in order to be led to that will. There may be some as you say, but do not presume everyone who disagrees with you on any point is completely wrong. We have all been wrong...

CNKW3 · Aug 11, 2019

Not me said:
Be blessed in Christ, Not me

Typical!

CNKW3 · Aug 11, 2019

amadeus said:
I did not say that. He that endures to the end shall be saved:

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matt 10:22

You didn’t answer the question so I’m going to assume that I was right. You do believe one is saved BEFORE BAPTISM. That is NOT what Jesus taught. Therefore you are NOT seeking first the kingdom of God. You are seeking first your own way.

And what then is the need for the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit?

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

Can a man correctly understand what he reads and studies in the written Bible without the lead of the Holy Spirit?

Paul said you could. Eph 3:4. He said..when you read you can understand.

"[God] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

Without the Spirit the Bible will be misunderstood as we see that it has been by the innumerable denominations in existence with contradictory beliefs based on their interpretations of the written Bible.

Do you know how many people claim to have the spirit but preach false doctrine? Too many to count. The Bible is Not hard to understand. Take salvation....
Jesus said....he that believes and is baptized will be saved.
What’s so hard about that? A third grader can understand it.
But, 90% of Christendom teaches it differently. Why? Because of pride.

A follower of Christ seeks the will of God and follows the lead of the Holy Spirit as he reads his Bible and talks to God in order to be led to that will. There may be some as you say, but do not presume everyone who disagrees with you on any point is completely wrong. We have all been wrong...

You can only know what the will of God is through his revealed word he has left us. The HS DOES NOT give us new and direct revelation today. That is why we are where we are. The devil has lead people to believe that.

amadeus · Aug 11, 2019

CNKW3 said:
You didn’t answer the question so I’m going to assume that I was right. You do believe one is saved BEFORE BAPTISM. That is NOT what Jesus taught. Therefore you are NOT seeking first the kingdom of God. You are seeking first your own way.
Paul said you could. Eph 3:4. He said..when you read you can understand.
Do you know how many people claim to have the spirit but preach false doctrine? Too many to count. The Bible is Not hard to understand. Take salvation....
Jesus said....he that believes and is baptized will be saved.
What’s so hard about that? A third grader can understand it.
But, 90% of Christendom teaches it differently. Why? Because of pride.
ou can only know what the will of God is through his revealed word he has left us. The HS DOES NOT give us new and direct revelation today. That is why we are where we are. The devil has lead people to believe that.

You apparently don't want to discuss but to teach what you believe that you know and put words in my mouth. I am leaving you now to your ways.

CNKW3 · Aug 11, 2019

amadeus said:
You apparently don't want to discuss but to teach what you believe that you know and put words in my mouth. I am leaving you now to your ways.

Do you believe....man is saved before water baptism? Yes or no? It’s not very difficult unless you are clinging to your own false teaching.

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