bbyrd009
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well again, i dont envy you, my line there is diff from yours...beyond me how he is getting so much engagement myself
Are You Just Another Fake Christian?
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Well that is a nice friendly way to start a discussion.
So, I presume that you place yourself in the group as being a "true Christian".
If you read the Forum Rules you will find that you can not tell someone that they are not a 'real christian'. Not that you have done that.....yet.
I'm not speaking for Christians "true" or "fake", but simply as one who notes that the bible does distinguish between Christians who must rely upon Christ's sacrifice to cover their sins, and those who have received knowledge of the truth. Those Christians no longer sin. If this isn't the case, then they're under the wrath of God and eternally damned. I don't think that's a possibility. So they no longer sin because they are under the new covenant.
The only caveat is that if this hasn't yet occurred, then all Christians still sin, and none are born again into the kingdom yet.
The "true" Christians is just a variation on the True Scotsman fallacy so I opted for a distinction that is actually described in the bible.
I would also point out that the label "Christian" isn't necessary. It was originally coined by the pagan community in Antioch. They dead-named the church who referred to themselves as "the way". They adopted the same title Christ has for himself. Probably because they saw that they were the body of Christ himself.
Each member of the church has no problem identifying themselves as 'the way' because it is Christ who lives, and no one else. As Paul says, "not me, but Christ in me".
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Agree....
I only posted to you because I thought that you expected a reasonable discussion from this guy.
Be blessed. ...H
PS, nice to see you...you aren't been around here much anymore have you.
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I don't really post to anyone specific. I post to the content posted.
All fake Christians=frauds='isms", "all religions, "isms", are hated by God." KJV I notice most fake Christians are good at quoting scripture but do not enforce it with God's power "in Jesus' name". John 14:14 "If ye ask anything "in My name" I shall, must do it." They ignore that the Sons of God, brothers to the First Son of God, Yahshua, gives God's White Hebrew, of Heber, brother to White Shem, the Shemite, both sons of Noah, father of Abraham, Chosen Israelite, Caucasian, Anglo Saxon and Born again Christian. not a brown skin "ism", Pharisee, Zionist, of Zionism, Phariseeism of the Pharisees who murdered Him in 0033AD ="jew"=, "liar, theif and murderer", "sons of the devil", John 8:44, fraud of We, God's Chosen Israelite of Salvation=Jesus, the Savior, who have all of God's Power" in Jesus' name",on the tip of our tongue, yet I seldom hear one say, "In Jesus' name, I thank you for the healing you just bestowed on my brother". I claim this healing now. Not I will wait for it. Yes. God does do His business in His time but He is the Truth Sayer, Almighty Law Giver and Promise Keeper. How many Heathens think in these terms? In fact, I hear few Christians step up in defiance to Satan=Bubba "in Jesus' name and rebuke, defeat the Prince of Darkness with the "Light of the world", Jesus, the anointed one immediately. They do not define the "enemies of God or the "Sons of God", with, "ye Pharisees are the synagogue of the devil." PTL!! Why is He insulted by His Sons who choose not to Trust and Obey the Master. Keep it simple! "Ask and ye shall receive". And. There is no fake Christian. There is the Chosen Israelite, a Son of God, brother to the First, Son of God and the "sons of the devil", all "isms", "religions hated by God", KJV, and led by the Zionist, Pharisee anti Christ="jew"=fraud who will see no "isms' in heaven. Matt 23:33 "What makes you Pharisees, 'jews=frauds", think you will escape the judgment of Hell? Yes~ Eternal damnation on the Big BBQ Pit of the Hi Chef of Hell & fine BBQ Pig Ribs and Poke Chop specials, hated by the "jew'[ and other Ishmaelite Isms of Islam-ism. Both are Ishmaelites, Arabs, of Ishmael, 'bastard" son of Abraham and the Egyptian, "mixed seed"= "dog", Matt 15:2.] Was Jesus prejudice against the "sons of the devil? Who were God's Chosen People? Did He hated all evil? Does that include the "jews"=frauds, "liars" all men of evil? Why did He reject all of mankind-----except---- on race, white folks, the White Adamite, Noahite, Hebrew-ite, Ham-ite [ he didn't make it.] and White Shem the Shem-ite, not brown skin "liar", "semite"=fraud, "dog", Matt 15:26, another word perverted by the "jew", 560 BC Pharisees, as they perverted "jew" to replace a Pharisee or Israelite. [ The only, chosen jew=Pharisee is the "chosen son of the devil" Re: Rabbi,] "The devil is a Liar." said Jesus. So are the "sons of the devil", the Atheist, Zionist, Pharisee of Phariseeism, all "isms", none believers. Does God hate all evil, darkness which is all men of "isms", of Lucifer the Serpent of Paganism, Satanism. Black hearted fools! God hates lots of folks yet He loves us enough that He died for them who He came for. [ All Israelites of Jacob=Israel?] Who?? Matt 15:24 "I come only for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel." PTL!! [He did love white Men, Pure in the Spirit of God. He is a Spiritual racist. Musta been a racist. Huh? Why only the unfound sheep? Goats? Well! Think about it. He had 12 Judahites, Levites, Dicples, teachers and Apostles, followers, all Israelites but the "jews"=frauds, Pharisees would murder them soon. And Him. Think He needed some help get'n the Gospel, Good News out to the world. Wonder why God chose White Hebrew, Chosen Israelites for the job of being International Missionaries. One day. Maybe this was what God meant when He said to Abraham: "Where ever your seed, sons, goes to in the world, the world will be blessed" KJV. You think Adam being made in God's likeness had something to do with it? "Let us[?] make Adam "in our image"! Was Adam White?" No? Why not? Wasn't God, Jesus both Bright, Shinning, Glorious, Pure, Holy White, Spirits "in the Light of the Light of the world.? White is colorless, pure of no color. No sin? Huh? "All Darkness is Evil!" Was Adam, made in God's image" Dark and Evil. In flesh or spirit? Sir.There is no "fake Christians". there are the "Sons of God' or the "sons of the devio." Anything between these two sons are "of", subject to Lucifer the Serpent,,," still nipping at the heels of Eve, and Eve is still tramping on his head". Eve is Adams com-panion, help mate, wife, not a Partner, of 50/50 power. Nope. She proved her worth with the first black hearted person that came thru the Garden of Eden. She jumped his bones. No? Excuse me. God told Adam; "You are the STEWARD, "king", Master, of every Living Creature " in the world of the devil." [God gave the world as his kingdom.] As shall your sons, Noah, Shem, Heber, not Ham, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob=Israel=God's Chosen Israelites. You shall be responsible for the joy, peace, happiness and lives of all Living Things". "Can ya 'mag'n da mess da world would in if'n an Eve was in charge? Hillory?" [ Lotta Christian women, "who wanted a woman President.] God forbids woman to have no power over his Chosen Adamites, Israelites and Anglo Saxon Christian Sons of God. Yep! They, the anti Trump hated him and in their, false pride, corrupted spirit listen to the "lies of CNN', etc, [ Why does a Christian listen to Communist National Network, a gift from the "sons of the devil", the 1776 Illuminati Zionist of Zionism, Judahism, Satan-ism, and Atheism, and hypocracy voted against Christian America1776, by not voting for this man, Mr Donald Trump, a White Hebrew, Chosen Israelite, tainted with a Masonic demon of the Masons who God chose to bring back Christian America 1776, appointed by God to save Christian America 1776, the only nation, 1620 America, pure of no one heathen "ism", religion hated by God that His Chosen Israelites could gather until Judgment Day then all the Born again Christians, "Sons of God", "Found Sheep" no longer lost Sheep could be Found, Regained, Reclaimed, and Redeemed by the Almighty Redeemer, on the continent, 1620 America, claimed with the 1620 Mayflower Compact, to become "union of several states", once 13 now 50, the 1812 united states of America, REPUBLIC, Under God, not the US CORPORATION, fraud, Democracy of Corruption, "jew America",= fraud, of Zionist, PC lawlessness, subject to the 1776 illuminati Zionist, Pharisee of Zionism, Judah ism=fraud=lies, Pharisee ism who murdered Jesus the Savior in 0033 AD. The Promise Keeper. Yep. Those ladies have their Christian Pride as the spend millions $$$ on 'pretty clothes", stones and lipstick . Why do they do that? Looking for trouble or because God commands woman to "look good for her man." Thank God for His great foresight. Oh well! This is the part of Truth that gets me in trouble. And. Yep! Yahweh is a racist, in a PC world, but He forbids intergration of His White=Pure and Holy Chosen Israelites with all men of "isms", none whites,,,,,, until the Pharisees, 350 AD gave us the Whore of Rome , an "ism" of Catholicism of the Pharisee, 'jew", fraud, of Pharisee ism built the Zionist faith of Catholicism to hide under the shade of the Catholic fraud. "The "jew"=fraud, Pharisee was, is, are the most hated people in Europe, Rome, the UK ,now, soon I hope, the most hated in Christian America 1776 before they destroy the White= Pure + Holy + "purified in the Blood of God's Lamb, Christian man of God which they fear and hate more than the loss of a dollar $$. That's a bunch. Christian America 1776. For those who want to save America, we must return the Truth of the Truth Sayer and only Law Giver, Elohim = 3= Father, Son and Holy Ghost back to the House of God, the Temple of Christian America 1776, the Law, Under God, the Founding Fathers used to lay out the foundation, of the Promise Keeper, the 1599 Geneva Bible=90% of Perfect 1611 KJV Bible. Obama, the Heathen, "All Darkness is Evil", removed the Law of the Land, the Holy Bible from every Federal Bldg, Agency in the world. It is not a religious document, book. As you know Christianity is the only faith that is not an "ism" of Zionism, Catholicism, Pharisee ism, Satanism, etc, of the Prince of Darkness. Lucifer the serpent. " All darkness is evil." If it is not White=Pure and Holy it is not "of", subject to God. It is important that Pres Trump become aware that the Land, Nation of Christian America 1776 cannot survive with out the Word, Truth, Moral, Christian Law of God understood and at hand before all other documents for the President, leader of America. The US CORP, Democracy, fraud does not exist It is Ink on Paper. "A figment of your imagination." A lie "in the image" of "The Liar." Jesus is Lord! jim
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Be a Strong Christian of Great Faith. Prove your love to, for, God. How? Simple. Trust and Obey the Master ,,,,,,,,,,,,, at all cost. " Trust and Obey for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus is to Trust and Obey". Jesus is Lord! jim
Prove your Faith & Trust by your Obedience. John 14:14 "If ye ask Anything "in My name", Jesus, I shall, will, must do it." Jesus is Lord! jim
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No, I'm a true Christian pretending to be a fake one.
Not much of anything as I am trying to blend in with all the fake Christians. This is actually the best way to get them to see that they're just as fake as I am. A true Christian is able to relate to those around him because as true Christians we all know what it was like to be lost in sin, deceit, delusions, etc. We remember what it was like to have people tell us we were idiots while they had just won the God's cosmic lottery. The result was alienation, and resentment. It wasn't exactly something that was likely to foster any fruit of the Spirit.
A true Christian sees Christ reflected back at them in everyone they meet, but when dealing with fake Christians it's best to treat them the same way they treat everyone else which is usually with contempt, and arrogant condescension. It seems to be the best way to keep a conversation going.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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By this all will know that you are my disciples,” said Jesus, “if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) Love permeated the attitudes and dealings of early Christians. So true was this that among the pagans primitive Christians were particularly known for their brotherly love. In his Apology, Tertullian cites the words of such worldlings: “‘Look,’ they say, ‘how they love one another . . . and how they are ready to die for each other.’” I honestly can't say I see this kind of love in Christendom although they say they follow Jesus Christ.
DoveSpirit05
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You can tell someone if their a true Christian or not, jesus said "u shall know a tree by its fruit" its our job 2 use discernment, we have to know the difference between a wheat and a tear, its part of our Christian walk. We can reprove another member of the brethren if we believe dat their moving out of alignment, walking abit wavy, paul rebuke peter!! but we're 2 do it righteously, john 7:24
DoveSpirit05
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Would it be a sin or a violation of forum rules to disagree with you
and to say in reply to that all this you have claimed as the truth without any proof at all
other than you own made up opinions and no due process of any law much less God's law,
you have not only tried, convicted, judged and executed your judgement without so much as
one shred of evidence other than your own opinions and no representation at all of the accused person.
So I ask you
this simple question that even you should
be able to answer in truth:
Will you stand with this person
before the living God in the court of heaven
to be judged in Spirit and truth and to
receive that judgement as declared by the living God?
A simple yes or no reply
will be suffice.
I know fake Christians will tell you a lie.
Do you believe a true Christian will ever lie to you?
Do you love anything or anyone at all more than you love Jesus Christ?
I asked you this question to give you a door to tell the truth.
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