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Maybe you will one day begin to understand what Apostle Paul said who God's Israel is, in Romans 9.

Did you even catch there in Rom.9 where Paul quoted from Hosea to Roman Gentile believers on Christ Jesus?

Rom 9:24-26
24 Even us, whom He hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As He saith also in Osee, "I will call them My people, which were not My people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, 'Ye are not My people'; there shall they be called the children of the living God."
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The underlined Scripture is Paul quoting from the Book of Hosea which was NOT... written to, nor about, Gentiles.

The Hosea prophecies were written to the "house of Israel" (ten tribed northern kingdom of Israel). Yet there in Romans 9, Paul is quoting that to Gentile believers on Christ Jesus, so what gives?

It's because with Christ's Church, like Paul also showed there, it is made up of both believing Israelites and believing Gentiles together as ONE BODY with Christ Jesus as HEAD over them all.

So when you speak of God's future Israel, you cannot... ever... exclude the believing Gentiles that have been graffed into The Root (Jesus).

I have not excluded the gentile nations nor did Isaiah.

Isaiah 14:2 The nations will escort Israel and bring it to its homeland. Then the house of Israel will possess the nations as menservants and maidservants in the LORD's land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.

Isaiah mentions the nations in the Lords land.
 

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Nope, the gathering of His saints, the wailing and gnashing of teeth for those He closes the door upon, and His literal return, are all still future.

“The gathering of His saints” ...He said Himself He who doesn’t gather with Him is against Him. He is already gathering a people to Him. Would disagree. the gnashing of teeth are those branches that do not produce spiritual fruit cast into the Fire...as the Pharisees knew. it is not evil to turn over what is not bearing spiritual fruit that through the burning away of the dross and wood and stubble and hay...they may be saved. Would you agree He is the One pruning the branches ...is He the one with the fan in His hand, purging the floor and gathering His wheat? IS He the one that went to prepare a place and if He goes to prepare a place for you, He would come again and receive them so that they could be where He is. Daniel 2:35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Luke 3:16-17
[16] John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: [17] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

Got to remember the stone was rejected by the builders. And God laid a new foundation in Christ and no other foundation can be laid. Without Him all would be burned up as chaff and be counted as loss...but in His Mercy He prepared a place ....a place was found for that which “no place was found.” Without Him all of me, all works, would burn as chaff blown upon of a mighty wind and no place would be found....But He went to prepare a place...in coming not to destroy but to save that which was lost. The glorious gospel in the face of Jesus Christ...Why one future generation and why not TODAY “if you will hear His voice”?
 
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Won't you be surprised when you see Jesus coming in the clouds in our near future!!!

Rev 1:7
7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen.
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The cloud “received” Him into it out of their sight. Miraculous. Acts 1:9-11 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. [10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; [11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

on and with a great cloud of witnesses that received Him out of their sight... John 14:19-20 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


Which is more of a fable...God rolls in on literal clouds or He comes the same way He left...with or on the great cloud of witnesses having received the Holy Spirit In? “You In me, and I in you.”
 
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There is no plan, Stan. you abide in the Lord Jesus or you don't.

A lot of morons call me a Jew because of my sir name, but I am a Christian.

There is no Jewish race, you should start studying a Bible, the Tribe of Israel came from the Semitic race, just only one little Tribe of many other Semites and only a fool or a Satanist would say otherwise.

There is nothing wrong with being a racist to some degree as all people are in fact but to be racial prejudice is just moronic. A racial prejudice person is ignorant of the facts and a fool, but nowadays one could being labelled a racist, could be just pointing out the facts of reality, because that one does understand or have a handle on what the differences are and this has nothing at all to do with malice at all but has an education on the subject in depth.

Gods love is for his people and his people only Serve him in fact, as one must become an Israel = born again. why do you think that Jesus said this ? Jesus never peddled the race card, remember what he said about who are his brethren ?

When I pointed out the problems that the Tribe faces through out it's history, I thought that I said it was to do with turning their backs of God and there you go, any one who claims that the so called card holding so called Jew, is a fool as history proves, as they can't cut the mustard in fact.

Fact is that the so called Jews could do nothing at all without God and they failed every time that they turned their backs on God, Bible points this all out you know, if you ever bothered to study it, I would think that you are only a indoctrinated religious person who is just following along with your own religion. Never idolise any man or so called race or religion bro because you will always be lost.
Their is only one way and Jesus Christ is it. you are pissing into the wind if you think that the people claiming to be Jews have a hope in hell, because they are totally lost. anyone who rejects Jesus Christ is a bastard and should not betaken seriously at all.

Very good!
 

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Matt 23:33 "What makes you Pharisees, = jews = "liars, thieves and murderers", John 8:44 , think you will escape the judgment of hell?" "Ye synagouges of the devil." Eternity in the Lake of Fire with your father the Prince of darkness. Lucifer the serpent.=devil.
 

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Matt 23:33 "What makes you Pharisees, = jews = "liars, thieves and murderers", John 8:44 , think you will escape the judgment of hell?" "Ye synagouges of the devil." Eternity in the Lake of Fire with your father the Prince of darkness. Lucifer the serpent.=devil.

Is that what you would have said about the Pharisee named Saul?
 

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When God spoke through Isaiah of Israel's captors and oppressors, it does not mean Christ's Church which are made up of believing Gentiles and believing Israel. The oppressors will be outside the gates of the holy city, and will not have right to the tree of life, while Christ's Church will.

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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Those two verses are actually Millennial timing that are about events back in Rev.20. Those of verse 15 are those "captors" and "oppressors". Outside the gates of the holy city is where the "outer darkness" will be.
 

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“The gathering of His saints” ...He said Himself He who doesn’t gather with Him is against Him. He is already gathering a people to Him. Would disagree. the gnashing of teeth are those branches that do not produce spiritual fruit cast into the Fire...as the Pharisees knew. it is not evil to turn over what is not bearing spiritual fruit that through the burning away of the dross and wood and stubble and hay...they may be saved. Would you agree He is the One pruning the branches ...is He the one with the fan in His hand, purging the floor and gathering His wheat? IS He the one that went to prepare a place and if He goes to prepare a place for you, He would come again and receive them so that they could be where He is. Daniel 2:35
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Luke 3:16-17
[16] John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: [17] Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

Got to remember the stone was rejected by the builders. And God laid a new foundation in Christ and no other foundation can be laid. Without Him all would be burned up as chaff and be counted as loss...but in His Mercy He prepared a place ....a place was found for that which “no place was found.” Without Him all of me, all works, would burn as chaff blown upon of a mighty wind and no place would be found....But He went to prepare a place...in coming not to destroy but to save that which was lost. The glorious gospel in the face of Jesus Christ...Why one future generation and why not TODAY “if you will hear His voice”?

Nope, Christ's spiritual kingdom is only manifest today, through His Church. But He promised a literal, physical kingdom on earth for His Church in the world to come. That world to come means still future to us. Get it? 'world to come'? I can spend all day giving you Bible verses to support it, but I'd be quoted 1/2 of God's Word here. I'm not going to do that, and no matter how much you try to post proof, you have not posted anything that shows His future Kingdom is a fallacy.

This has yet to happen:

Rev 19:11-19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
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Thus you can take your Illuminati minerval philosophy and throw it on the fire, because fire and brimstone is where their leaders are doomed for when Jesus returns.
 

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When God spoke through Isaiah of Israel's captors and oppressors, it does not mean Christ's Church which are made up of believing Gentiles and believing Israel. The oppressors will be outside the gates of the holy city, and will not have right to the tree of life, while Christ's Church will.

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV


Those two verses are actually Millennial timing that are about events back in Rev.20. Those of verse 15 are those "captors" and "oppressors". Outside the gates of the holy city is where the "outer darkness" will be.

So you believe the nations who reject Christ shall dwell in the Lords land while Israel reigns over them?
 

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Nope, the gathering of His saints, the wailing and gnashing of teeth for those He closes the door upon, and His literal return, are all still future.
so you say, but cannot Quote, not anywhere, i reckon bc it is not true wadr
return to Me and I will return to you
Well, yes there is Scripture in the New Testament for the time when Christ will return and reign over the nations, with His elect. I quoted it from Revelation 2, which it was first written of in Psalms 2. It is repeated in Rev.12 and Rev.19, and Rev.20 shows it in action, so there's no mistaking it if one simply reads the New Testament Book of Revelation. Even Apostle Paul proclaimed Christ's future reign over His enemies in 1 Cor.15:23-28, again New Testament Scripture. So where have you been not knowing about this?
because it is two eyed crap is my guess, and i'm mostly curious how you might be cured of your eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge?

Christ does not, ever, anywhere that you can Quote, "Return."
I will never leave you, nor forsake you
 

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so you say, but cannot Quote, not anywhere, i reckon bc it is not true wadr
return to Me and I will return to you

because it is two eyed crap is my guess, and i'm mostly curious how you might be cured of your eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge?

Christ does not, ever, anywhere that you can Quote, "Return."
I will never leave you, nor forsake you

I was asked some Bible questions out of the blue by a young fellow at a store (never met him before, and he didn't know me). Wound up going to his parent's house and met with his parents and his siblings. I didn't know they had been debating about Christ's future return. They were devout Christians, but in a mixture of different denominations. They obviously asked me to attend in hopes of helping them to settle their debate. None of them had ever read the Zechariah 14 chapter which is about Jesus' literal future return on the "day of the Lord"...

Zech 14:1-5
14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with Thee.
KJV

Acts 1:9-12
9 And when He had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, Which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven."

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
KJV

1 Thess 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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2 Peter 3:10
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

KJV

Not only does God's Word give us specific detail about Christ's future 'literal' return back to this earth, but God's Word tells us where, how, and when... that will happen.

And it is very, very, very... easy to know when the elements of man's works are burned off this earth on the future "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns.
 

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None of them had ever read the Zechariah 14 chapter which is about Jesus' literal future return on the "day of the Lord"..
no it isnt, and you dont have any idea what you are talking about, either. And that's on a good day. I would post the relevant Scriptures, but you cannot hear anyone else over that constant noise in your head anyway i guess. Suffice it to say that if God Himself Came Down and Told You that Jesus was not, ever, going to literally "return" in the manner that you believe, you would not hear Him either, imo. Have a nice day. They get what they deserve imo, if they will. ot read the Bible either
Not only does God's Word give us specific detail about Christ's future 'literal' return back to this earth, but God's Word tells us where, how, and when... that will happen.
and you dont know what God's Word is, either!

professing themselves wise, they became fools
 

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The cloud “received” Him into it out of their sight. Miraculous. Acts 1:9-11 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. [10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; [11] Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

on and with a great cloud of witnesses that received Him out of their sight... John 14:19-20 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


Which is more of a fable...God rolls in on literal clouds or He comes the same way He left...with or on the great cloud of witnesses having received the Holy Spirit In? “You In me, and I in you.”
put much more nicely, ty :)
i might even owe him an apology aft i read his response, huh?
ha, when bankers start going to prison maybe lol
 
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I was asked some Bible questions out of the blue by a young fellow at a store (never met him before, and he didn't know me). Wound up going to his parent's house and met with his parents and his siblings. I didn't know they had been debating about Christ's future return. They were devout Christians, but in a mixture of different denominations. They obviously asked me to attend in hopes of helping them to settle their debate. None of them had ever read the Zechariah 14 chapter which is about Jesus' literal future return on the "day of the Lord"...

Zech 14:1-5
14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And His feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with Thee.
KJV

Acts 1:9-12
9 And when He had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, Which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into heaven."

12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
KJV

1 Thess 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
KJV


2 Peter 3:10
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

KJV

Not only does God's Word give us specific detail about Christ's future 'literal' return back to this earth, but God's Word tells us where, how, and when... that will happen.

And it is very, very, very... easy to know when the elements of man's works are burned off this earth on the future "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns.
Jesus does not come back in the Flesh. it's his Spirit that it's all about, that will be.
Acts 1:11 points his out, it's the Holy Spirit.

We were given everything that we need when Jesus Christ came, but one must be born again to understand.
The second coming is about that all the nonsense is going to be burnt up and what is left is the stark reality, the workings of all the BS will be seen for what it was, the temptations of Satan will be revealed to all as the whore that it truly is, one will knot be lead by Satan's powers because all will be totally destitute. all of mans works will be exposed for what it truly is in fact, no one will be able to hide that fact.
Their will be a big wake up call, like the world has ever seen or will ever see.
It will make WW2 look like it was just nothing.
I am sorry to say that anyone who looks forward to the day is a moron or a deranged Satanist.
If one had wished WW2 on the world, would you think that that person was insane ? well fact is that some wanted this all to happen back then, they peddled and pushed it, for their own ends. is it not the same with Satanist nowadays ?

You have a choice, do you want to get saved now (born again) or get saved if you just happen to survive the Hellfire's.

One can not be raptured unless you are truly born again in fact and if you are then you would not wish for the hellfire on others, but to help them so that their Soul will be saved. one may loose your life in the hellfire but not your Soul, that's what it's all about and if one does not realise that, well one is not truly Saved.
 

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Jesus does not come back in the Flesh. it's his Spirit that it's all about, that will be.
Acts 1:11 points his out, it's the Holy Spirit.

Our Lord Jesus is in His transfigured body, and it kept the marks of His crucifixion. I never said it was a flesh body, so i don't know where you assumed I inferred such an idea as that from. When He returns on the "day of the Lord", this flesh world will be over. We all... will be in the "spiritual body" type which Apostle Paul taught of in 1 Cor.15, pulling from Isaiah 25. The only type of death that will remain then will be the "second death", which is the casting of one's spiritual body with soul into the future "lake of fire".

Acts 1:11 says "Jesus", not the Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus will return... LITERALLY... back to this earth just like the Zechariah 14 Scripture does declare, His feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem where He ascended to Heaven from.

We were given everything that we need when Jesus Christ came, but one must be born again to understand.

No one-upmanship ideas please. I'm a Christian. Nowhere in God's Holy Writ does it say Jesus will not return, literally.

The second coming is about that all the nonsense is going to be burnt up and what is left is the stark reality, the workings of all the BS will be seen for what it was, the temptations of Satan will be revealed to all as the whore that it truly is, one will knot be lead by Satan's powers because all will be totally destitute. all of mans works will be exposed for what it truly is in fact, no one will be able to hide that fact.
Their will be a big wake up call, like the world has ever seen or will ever see.
It will make WW2 look like it was just nothing.
I am sorry to say that anyone who looks forward to the day is a moron or a deranged Satanist.
If one had wished WW2 on the world, would you think that that person was insane ? well fact is that some wanted this all to happen back then, they peddled and pushed it, for their own ends. is it not the same with Satanist nowadays ?

Like Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10, the elements of man's works will be burned off this earth on that day. At the end of Hebrews 12 Apostle Paul said basically the same thing. 2 Peter 3 covers the subject of God's complete destructions on this earth, this next one to come being with His consuming fire. That consuming fire is not to be compared with man's nukes. Man's nukes can't even come close. His servants can stand right in the middle of His fire and not be harmed at all, while everything around them is totally consumed (Dan.3 with hot fiery furnace example).

You have a choice, do you want to get saved now (born again) or get saved if you just happen to survive the Hellfire's.

I already believe on Jesus Christ as my Saviour. Go preach to those who haven't yet heard The Gospel.

One can not be raptured unless you are truly born again in fact and if you are then you would not wish for the hellfire on others, but to help them so that their Soul will be saved. one may loose your life in the hellfire but not your Soul, that's what it's all about and if one does not realise that, well one is not truly Saved.

Where did I ever say I wished God's consuming fire would burn up the wicked? I don't see that event as a joyous moment either. However, that fire is NOT... the future "lake of fire" you apparently are confused about.

The future "lake of fire" event is at the end of Rev.20 after the "thousand years" of Christ's future reign with His elect. Jesus Christ has to return first, and it will be a literal return, you can count on that! Like Revelation 1 says, He will come in the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him.

The event of God's consuming fire is to happen on the "day of the Lord", which is the last day of this present world when Jesus returns. That is why Zechariah 14 linked the "day of the Lord" there with Jesus' feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem. That fire will melt man's works off this earth, and will destroy the northern armies that come up Israel on the last day. It will usher us all... into the world to come when Jesus' thousand years reign with His elect Church will begin. As of right now, He has NOT yet returned, but He will.
 

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There is no plan, Stan. you abide in the Lord Jesus or you don't.

A lot of morons call me a Jew because of my sir name, but I am a Christian.

There is no Jewish race, you should start studying a Bible, the Tribe of Israel came from the Semitic race, just only one little Tribe of many other Semites and only a fool or a Satanist would say otherwise.

There is nothing wrong with being a racist to some degree as all people are in fact but to be racial prejudice is just moronic. A racial prejudice person is ignorant of the facts and a fool, but nowadays one could being labelled a racist, could be just pointing out the facts of reality, because that one does understand or have a handle on what the differences are and this has nothing at all to do with malice at all but has an education on the subject in depth.

Gods love is for his people and his people only Serve him in fact, as one must become an Israel = born again. why do you think that Jesus said this ? Jesus never peddled the race card, remember what he said about who are his brethren ?

When I pointed out the problems that the Tribe faces through out it's history, I thought that I said it was to do with turning their backs of God and there you go, any one who claims that the so called card holding so called Jew, is a fool as history proves, as they can't cut the mustard in fact.

Fact is that the so called Jews could do nothing at all without God and they failed every time that they turned their backs on God, Bible points this all out you know, if you ever bothered to study it, I would think that you are only a indoctrinated religious person who is just following along with your own religion. Never idolise any man or so called race or religion bro because you will always be lost.
Their is only one way and Jesus Christ is it. you are pissing into the wind if you think that the people claiming to be Jews have a hope in hell, because they are totally lost. anyone who rejects Jesus Christ is a bastard and should not betaken seriously at all.
A "Jew" is simply one who is of the Tribe of Judah, who have descended from Judah, although over time, it has been diluted to include all of the descendants of Israel.

I am really not going to get into that nonsense. "The reality is that the title of 'Jew' does not... mean a race. Sammy Davis Jr. was a Jew (he converted to Judaism)." or that Ashkenazi Jews were not really Jews.

My very well researched and well documented history goes back hundreds of years to The Palatine, around the southern Rhine Mosel River triangle, is the cradle of the Ashkenazim Jews.

It all starts out with the plight of a group of displaced Jews in 70 AD. who after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans migrated to Rome, with the objective of making a living there, but Rome already had a glut of artisans. With the Roman army assembling to move north to subdue the barbarians across the Rhine, the Jewish artisans followed the army, providing it with needed services. After the barbarians had been conquered, the Jews viewed the fertile land in the Rhine Mosel triangle as a great opportunity to start a new life.

My DNA accurately pinpoints that location as the home of my progenitors and associated dates.

Davy claims that "Ashkenazi Jews were not really Jews", which is total nonsense. The stuff Davy claims, that Ashkenazim were not real Jews, but converts. The only thing that reveals is that he doesn't know much about genealogy. He quotes bogus sources that made their determination from the totally meaningless matrilineal line! Duh!! Legitimate lineage is ALWAYS passed on by the patrilineal line, and indeed the male Ashkenazi Y Chromosome lineage has proven to from the middle east, and a match with the Sephardic Jews.
 

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Our Lord Jesus is in His transfigured body, and it kept the marks of His crucifixion. I never said it was a flesh body, so i don't know where you assumed I inferred such an idea as that from. When He returns on the "day of the Lord", this flesh world will be over. We all... will be in the "spiritual body" type which Apostle Paul taught of in 1 Cor.15, pulling from Isaiah 25. The only type of death that will remain then will be the "second death", which is the casting of one's spiritual body with soul into the future "lake of fire".

Acts 1:11 says "Jesus", not the Holy Spirit. Our Lord Jesus will return... LITERALLY... back to this earth just like the Zechariah 14 Scripture does declare, His feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem where He ascended to Heaven from.



No one-upmanship ideas please. I'm a Christian. Nowhere in God's Holy Writ does it say Jesus will not return, literally.



Like Apostle Peter said in 2 Peter 3:10, the elements of man's works will be burned off this earth on that day. At the end of Hebrews 12 Apostle Paul said basically the same thing. 2 Peter 3 covers the subject of God's complete destructions on this earth, this next one to come being with His consuming fire. That consuming fire is not to be compared with man's nukes. Man's nukes can't even come close. His servants can stand right in the middle of His fire and not be harmed at all, while everything around them is totally consumed (Dan.3 with hot fiery furnace example).



I already believe on Jesus Christ as my Saviour. Go preach to those who haven't yet heard The Gospel.



Where did I ever say I wished God's consuming fire would burn up the wicked? I don't see that event as a joyous moment either. However, that fire is NOT... the future "lake of fire" you apparently are confused about.

The future "lake of fire" event is at the end of Rev.20 after the "thousand years" of Christ's future reign with His elect. Jesus Christ has to return first, and it will be a literal return, you can count on that! Like Revelation 1 says, He will come in the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him.

The event of God's consuming fire is to happen on the "day of the Lord", which is the last day of this present world when Jesus returns. That is why Zechariah 14 linked the "day of the Lord" there with Jesus' feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem. That fire will melt man's works off this earth, and will destroy the northern armies that come up Israel on the last day. It will usher us all... into the world to come when Jesus' thousand years reign with His elect Church will begin. As of right now, He has NOT yet returned, but He will.
I was talking subjectively as to all such, not to you so much.

I don't think that nukes are the point or that such will be the end of humans on earth.

Act 1:11 Shall come in the same way as you have seen him going up to heaven. such is referring to his Majesty as such is expressed in the Clouds. it's spiritual, Jesus is the Holy Spirit.