What does an enemy of the state look like?

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Enoch111

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And claiming that Obama is pure evil.....wow
There's no wow about it. Obama was a very evil man pretending to some lofty aspirations while doing absolutely nothing about the REAL problems facing America. He was a total fraud, beginning with his birth certificate, his claim to be a Christian, and his *hope and change* baloney which deceived everyone. His primary agenda was to ensure that the USA became another third world country at the mercy of China, Iran and the radical Islamist terrorists.
 

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How are President Trump's actions of seeing that the laws of America are finally being upheld, considered "reckless disregard for laws?" Perhaps disregard for the "blind eye" of the acceptance of the "cultural norms" of condoning and encouraging criminal activity, "Yes", but not disregard for law. He is finally seeing that our laws are upheld and enforced.... not "ignored." (And the Left is violently, lawlessly, opposed to that happening.)
 

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Absolutely. The first order of business should have been to CLEAN HOUSE THOROUGHLY. And yet he made mistake after mistake in the people he appointed to various positions, then had to fire them, while the Obama *old guard* consolidated their position and the Deep State went on the offensive. Very sad.
I was just discussing that with my dad this morning. He said Trump is not a politician, so heavily relies on the recommendations of those around him...which ultimately finds him appointing people who are as much part of the "swampus creaturus" phylum as those on the other side of the aisle. Sure, Trump is no saint and is limited in what he can do by the "deep state" (term used by those who are too proud to admit that we who have been claiming for decades that "shadow govt." secret Luciferian society members actually run the world have been right all along), but hopefully he can put in check the advancement of socialism in America long enough for people to wake up and see that that it's OK to be white, it's OK to want to keep you paycheck, it's OK for men to detest the idea of finding sexual gratification in the unsanitary anus of another man, OK to worship Jesus and stand up for Him publicly, OK to criticize popular scientific theories about origins, OK to deny the lunacy of "Climate Change", etc.
 

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Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.
Destroy Western culture? Who? You mean like throwing open our borders to invite socialists and Islamists? Like Obama "fundamentally transforming the USA" into a socialist state? Like normalizing child murder, abomination of gay marriage, and snowflake culture?

Warped thinking like Aspen's is a classic example of what results from participation trophies and Drag Queen Story Hour.
 

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Destroy Western culture? Who? You mean like throwing open our borders to invite socialists and Islamists? Like Obama "fundamentally transforming the USA" into a socialist state? Like normalizing child murder, abomination of gay marriage, and snowflake culture?

Warped thinking like Aspen's is a classic example of what results from participation trophies and Drag Queen Story Hour.

Well, at least we agree on politics:)
 
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Well, at least we agree on politics:)
I just don't get how these Libtards keep parroting "collusion, collusion, collusion" when just a few days ago, PMSNBC News just announced that after 2 years and over 200 testimonies, the Senate Intelligence Committee found that "no direct evidence" of Trump/Russia collusion exists...and since "collusion" is a non-crime, who cares if any does???

Yet, the Mental Disorder that is Liberalism seems to render its victims incapable of acceptance of anything that doesn't harm Conservatism or the cause of Christ.
 

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How are President Trump's actions of seeing that the laws of America are finally being upheld, considered "reckless disregard for laws?" Perhaps disregard for the "blind eye" of the acceptance of the "cultural norms" of condoning and encouraging criminal activity, "Yes", but not disregard for law. He is finally seeing that our laws are upheld and enforced.... not "ignored." (And the Left is violently, lawlessly, opposed to that happening.)
A famous German National Socialist (NAZI) once said if you repeat a lie often enough, people eventually believe it as truth...and boy does the FAKE NEWS Democrat propagandist machine know who to repeat the lies for gullible liberals like aspen...
 

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Mmmmm. I am reminded of Stalin saying the same sort of thing to those under threat from Hitler in Europe...yet he and Churchill and Roosevelt were all members of the same club.
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That's true they are all of the Talmud Golden Calf Mob truly Satanist and of there Father the Devil who were murders from the beginning.
The far right wing and far left wing are united group in fact, they have their own little secret club and act much like a little rudder of a ship, so they are a small group of people that steer the ship leading the people astray with in it. but the majority of people are to stupid or ignorant to understand such is a fact that they only take advantage of gullible people for there own ends. = Anti-Christ.
Non of that mob ever truly promoted Jesus Christ ever, they were all Freemasons secret society morons who hide there craft from all because they have to !
Freemasons promote themselves as above all and are not to be questioned as all under them are not worthy, they do not even look to there own Sons, as a true father should and be totally open and honest to them, but hold their craft above their entire family and their wife has no right to ask what they get up to in the Loge. what a total disgrace !!! one may ask who the hell are you then, if you are not totally committed to this family, for crying out loud ?

Look at all of this mobs fathers hey were all bastards to their family's.
Look at W Churchill dad, oh what a loving dad, not ! and look at what a prick he truly was.
Look at Hitler's dad, oh what a loving dad, not ! and look at what a prick he truly was. what's common is that they were all totally ruthless pigs who would stand over anyone to get what they wanted.

I have a good mate for years that's dad is a top Freemason and I or anyone who questions Freemasonry to him, he goes right of the rocker but he can bag Christianity at will and I say but Christianity is a open Book bro and Freemasonry is not, so why support people who hide there position or intent etc from others, why ! pray tell.
One day at X place one of our mates Y seen his dad setting off out to the Lodge and said good luck with the goat riders convention, as he was walking out the door, now X dad turned around and gave a big smile. but the next day X son got up the mate Y about saying such and Y pointed out that his dad was a Freemason as well and meant no disrespect but just a joke.
Truth be it is a goat riders convention and all are Goats.
 
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Putting evil despots alongside Trump is not only grossly unfair, but plays into the hands of his enemies who seek to destroy America.
But don't forget that Churchill and Roosevelt, in order to work out resolutions to WW2, and other conflicts that threatened stability and peace, sat down alongside Stalin. And all three were freemasons. Now I am not suggesting Trump is freemason, nor am I comparing him to Stalin...but war/politics and the pressures of the job can create some strange bedfellows, and because Trump was educated by Jesuits, and knowing what Jesuit education stands for, and knowing that the Jesuits control freemasonry and have done so for a long time, I tend to take Trumps declarations of "draining the swamp" somewhat differently that perhaps most listeners have. Trump may have drained the water out of the low-lying land, but what he has uncovered still smells fishy and still flapping with life.
 

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How are President Trump's actions of seeing that the laws of America are finally being upheld, considered "reckless disregard for laws?" Perhaps disregard for the "blind eye" of the acceptance of the "cultural norms" of condoning and encouraging criminal activity, "Yes", but not disregard for law. He is finally seeing that our laws are upheld and enforced.... not "ignored." (And the Left is violently, lawlessly, opposed to that happening.)

1000% true
 
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I just don't get how these Libtards keep parroting "collusion, collusion, collusion" when just a few days ago, PMSNBC News just announced that after 2 years and over 200 testimonies, the Senate Intelligence Committee found that "no direct evidence" of Trump/Russia collusion exists...and since "collusion" is a non-crime, who cares if any does???

Yet, the Mental Disorder that is Liberalism seems to render its victims incapable of acceptance of anything that doesn't harm Conservatism or the cause of Christ.

Completely.
 

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But don't forget that Churchill and Roosevelt, in order to work out resolutions to WW2, and other conflicts that threatened stability and peace, sat down alongside Stalin. And all three were freemasons. Now I am not suggesting Trump is freemason, nor am I comparing him to Stalin...but war/politics and the pressures of the job can create some strange bedfellows, and because Trump was educated by Jesuits, and knowing what Jesuit education stands for, and knowing that the Jesuits control freemasonry and have done so for a long time, I tend to take Trumps declarations of "draining the swamp" somewhat differently that perhaps most listeners have. Trump may have drained the water out of the low-lying land, but what he has uncovered still smells fishy and still flapping with life.
WW2 was a planed operation years before it all started and the premise for the war was a joke, no one could be so stupid to kick off a war like that over such at all, the UK had no hope of winning against Germany as they would of been easy wiped out, if Hitler wanted to of done that. and all Hitler had to do is keep his Socialist Commo mates on side and he would of walked straight through France and all the rest easy as. but for the power of the USA that was roped into the war and one can look into all that as to why and how it was done.:eek::oops:
But that was not the plan and as for the Churchill's madness and all, the dictatorship still took over all of Poland etc and Half of Germany, how stupid was that truly when you look into it all, fact is that they lost the whole plot anyway.

So Churchill pushed for war like a total ranting madman for years for his wealthy world bank backers and then kicked out the PM the way he did:confused::eek: and took over because of a load of nonsense about Poland that was total nonsense and well Poland was lost in the end and just given to the Communist morons anyway :mad:, how can anyone see such as a win.:confused:
So after the war Churchill is happy with his work, but is all this truly as bright as we are led to believe ? no not at all because Hitler never wanted to attack the UK at all, that was never his plan and the pommy people had never been threatened but were loved and admired by Hitler and he was forced to war with the UK, not to mention that the Polish government were total morons, as all that they had to do was let Germany service East Prussia problem solved, but they would not do the correct thing and were bleeding East Prussia dry and that was a huge crime that Poland was guilty of in fact and when one truly looks into the situation no one could deny such at all.
So Churchill was willing to kill every person in the UK to get what his fat cat world Bank mob wanted, we shall fight them on the beaches etc and we shall never surrender ? we ? Churchill him self will never surrender, well maybe not ? but his people ?o_O he was willing to kill every last on of them :(and it was the same with Hitler he was willing to kill every German :rolleyes:. now one could ask yourself who are these people truly:eek:, are they just using the people for there own ends ?:mad: are all the people just following there leaders like morons led to he slaughter:confused::oops:.
The whole thing was based on madness of Poland that the History just conveniently does not go into detail about the whole thing about Poland bit by bit, because if you do you can smell a rat and then after the war was it worth it all, Poland and much more was taken over anyway, so what a joke it all was:(.
Not to mention that the whole world now is full of bloody Socialist clap trap anyway now and are following much of what Hitler and Stalin would be proud of anyway. so the war is a now has just been made out to be a joke only most are to ignorant to be able to see it.:rolleyes:

I can see that the whole thing was orchestrated by a small group of very wealthy people and I can remember my grand dad and many others said such back in the 1960's and on and they warned of what everything that is going on nowadays will happen and it is all been coming true. not to mention that he UK and USA and Australia did experiments on their own people just like the Nazis did, if you bother to look into it all, you can look into the facts as the records are all there to see, you just have to do the digging.
 

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Sorry Nancy - I think the video falls under conspiracy theory. I did like her house that she was recording in! Even if it was true, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it and it has no application to our relationship with God. Just my opinion.
 
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Sorry Nancy - I think the video falls under conspiracy theory. I did like her house that she was recording in! Even if it was true, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it and it has no application to our relationship with God. Just my opinion.

Sometimes...I would go so far to say that most times, conspiracy theories are actually true...Yeah, nice house! I generally do not share this kind of stuff but...it (to me) has the ring of truth and, am having flashbacks to all I read and heard from back in the late 90's into the late 2000's. I dunno Ron but then, do any of us? I don't trust ANY government (except the Lord's :) ) as far as I could kick a mountain...it's the slowly boiling frog to me. And, this is also Jmo ♥ U!
 
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Manafort comes to mind.....so does Trump

But what about his diehard followers who seem to delight in his reckless disregard for laws and cultural norms?

An enemy of the state is a person who desires the end of the state - even those who have an ‘ends justify the mean’ moral code - wanting the end of America to bring about the return of Christ and the end of the world. Christian Zionism is attempting to do God’s work for him - bringing about prophecy, destroying the environment, electing a despot who crashes through all checks and balances and colludes with our enemies, and fear mongering - creating enemies and scapegoating.

Ismael would agree.

I am not a conspiracy theorist - this is happening before our eyes! I am also not a Nationalist - but I am patriotic. We are placing our country in danger and our environment in danger because we think we can control God’s timing.

This is frightening because we are going to destroy western culture and still be waiting for Christ’s return.

If you think President Trump is the enemy, then you just ain't fishin' out of the right side of the boat!
 

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I do have to agree that as a man, I rate Trump pretty low (but I feel that way about most NY and NJ people). He is a person I would not associate with.

But I didn't vote for him to be a buddy. I voted for him for just what he is delivering. We are becoming great again.... something we haven't been in many a decade.

When in history were we great?
 
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No, Dems are no good. It was the Dems who put u in a position of the country going down, President Trump is trying to undo the Dems damage.

Are you serious?

The economy

President Barack Obama’s greatest economic achievement was to prevent the Great Recession from spiraling into a full-blown depression.

By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time.

Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth;rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes.

In 2016, increases in hourly earnings accelerated, which, when combined with increased rates of employment, helped boost overall household incomes. Real household debt is lower than it was in 2006.

"As 2016 ends, the U.S. labor market is in its best shape since the recession, with nearly every measure of the market at its most favorable level in years," economist Jed Kolko concluded in his end-of-the-year report for the jobs website Indeed.

In other words, Obama left the economy in much better shape than he inherited it, even if it remains imperfect for every American.

"In general, the response to the Great Recession was forceful but sensible," Edward Glaeser, a Harvard University economist, told us last year. "There were few massive mistakes on his watch."

Obama oversaw several far-reaching programs designed to prevent a chain reaction of collapse. Two began under Bush. One was the $426 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, which helped stabilize the financial industry. The other was the auto bailout, which helped set the stage for a genuine rebound in the auto industry later in Obama’s tenure. Within a few years, car sales were hitting record highs.

In the two years when he had a Democratic-controlled Congress, Obama proceeded to enact a roughly $800 billion stimulus bill that included federal spending on infrastructure, tax cuts and fiscal help help for cash-strapped states. He also managed to enact the financial regulatory bill known as Dodd-Frank, as well as the Affordable Care Act, his signature initiative that helped provide options for people to keep health insurance even if they lost their job.

This isn’t to say that everything was perfect on Obama’s watch.

Income inequality remains persistently high, with many rural and blue-collar areas of the country stuck in a decades-long economic rut. While food stamp use and poverty rates have eased, they still haven’t returned to their pre-recession levels. Gross domestic product growth — the engine of long-term economic prosperity — remains sluggish, even after the recession officially transitioned into the recovery.

Job gains have been relatively modest in scale compared to some previous recoveries. And even those who credit Obama’s actions worry about a declining labor-force participation rate, which hasn’t been this low since the 1970s. Part of this is due to retirements by baby boomers, but not all of it, and economists aren’t entirely sure why a relatively large number of Americans have decided to do things other than work.

All told, Obama took an economy with a big hole in it and was able to fill it in and give it stability, said Brookings Institution economist Gary Burtless. That stability was passed on to Trump.

Did Donald Trump inherit 'a mess' from Barack Obama?
 
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In President Trump’s well-oiled machine, the vice-president had to find out via “fake news” the national security adviser lied to him, a hardly-vetted immigration order led to chaos and confusion quickly put on hold by the courts, and Sweden was added to the list of non-existent terrorist attacks.

Things were so well-oiled, Trump needed to defend himself by saying he had “inherited a mess” from Obama. It’s such a mess that Trump didn’t hesitate to take credit for it when the final economic reports of the Obama years were released.

The government’s January economic report said the economy added 227,000 jobs in January and unemployment was 4.8 percent, a level the Federal Reserve considers an indication of full employment.

When Obama took office January 2009, unemployment was 7.9 percent and, as a result of the financial crisis he inherited, rose to 10 percent later that year. It has steadily declined since then. Over the last five years, monthly job gains have averaged over 200,000, which the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco characterized as a strong pace relative to historical experience.


According to the report, wages are beginning to show signs of increasing as more jobs are opening up and the job market is tightening. The ratio of job openings to the number of unemployed looking for those openings was 1:3. In July of 2009, the ratio stood at 6:6.

The housing recovery is being driven by a strong labor market. Home building is up 10.5 percent compared to January 2016 and overall permits are outpacing housing starts, indicating continued rebound.


Manufacturing activity is increasing as well. According to the Philadelphia Federal Reserve’s January report, their index for manufacturing activity in their region has remained positive for six consecutive months and is now the highest since November 2014.

According to the Commerce Department’s January report, over the past years, total retails sales have risen 5.6 percent, which they conclude is likely a reflection of an improving job market.

The federal deficit in relation to the size of the economy did grow in fiscal year 2016, primarily due to a retroactive extension of tax breaks for corporation and individuals. But the increase to 2.9 percent of GDP from 2.5 percent in 2015 was the first increase after six straight years of decline.

There are plenty of “buts” associated with any economic report and this is no exception:

But the underemployment rate (9.1 percent, which includes those working part-time but seeking full-time employment) is still high by historic standards. But many of the new jobs are lower paying jobs. But wages didn’t increase as much as the Federal Reserve and many economists expected. But the affordable housing supply is still expected to shrink.

That being said, the economy Trump inherited is one in which the labor market is tight, housing and manufacturing are improving and wages are beginning to increase. Trump is inheriting an economy with one of the lowest jobless rates of any incoming president in modern times. Only Richard Nixon and George W. Bush took over with lower rates.

True to form, Trump, who previously called the unemployment rate a “hoax,” quickly tried to take credit for the positive economic data, attributing it to his election. However, the report was based on surveys conducted before he took office and reflected trends developing well before his election.

It reflects the economy Trump is inheriting. It’s not spectacular, but it’s stable and one economist generally characterized as getting stronger and worthy of optimism.

I don’t mean to gloss over the negatives. There’s still plenty to worry about in this economy. Having a job or better chances of getting one doesn’t eliminate anxiety over economic security. Income inequality and all that comes with it is still embedded. Retirement is still elusive for many, as is health care.

But the big picture economic reports show positive trends. The recovery was slow, but an economy that is near full employment and in the early stages of wage increases isn’t a bad hand-off. Instead of a mess, Trump has some economic coattails to ride.

Obama inherited a Great Recession. Trump inherited a primed pump.
 
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The Reverend





Lies are easy to get away with if they are repeated often enough and given voice by many different people. Repeat a lie often enough and that lie often becomes conventional wisdom. Repeating a lie doesn’t change the lie into the truth, it changes the people hearing the repeated lie. They begin to accept the lie as truth. One huge example: ‘Iraq has WMD.’


Lies make it impossible for people to communicate with each other......lies make it impossible to, as the Villagers often talk about it, have a real “conversation.”


One particular lie, often stated by right-of-center advocates, is the statement....“if Barack Obama wanted to increase taxes on the rich, stop the wars, pass a budget...blah, blah.....he could have chosen to do so because he had “total control” of the House and Senate for two full years.”


Sometimes the “two full years” is omitted from the statement......but the lie is spread nevertheless, by the “total control of Congress” phrase.


Let’s clear that all up, shall we?


Starting January 2009, at the beginning of the 111th Congress, in the month that Barack Obama was inaugurated president, the House of Representatives was made up of 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans. There is no question that Democrats had total control in the House from 2009-2011.


Even with numerous “blue-dog” (allegedly fiscally conservative) Democrats often voting with Republicans.....Speaker Pelosi had little difficulty passing legislation in the House. The House does not have the pernicious filibuster rule which the Senate uses. A majority vote in the House is all that’s necessary to pass legislation, except in rare occurrences (treaty ratification, overriding a presidential veto).



Okay, that’s the House during the first two years of Barack Obama’s presidency. For a lie to prosper, as it were, there needs to be a shred of truth woven inside the lie. It is absolutely true that from 2009-2011, Democrats and President Obama had “total control” of the House of Representatives.


But legislation does not become law without the Senate.


The Senate operates with the 60-vote-requirement filibuster rule. There are 100 Senate seats, and it takes 60 Senate votes for “closure” on a piece of legislation....to bring that piece of legislation to the floor of the Senate for amendments and a final vote....that final vote is decided by a simple majority in most cases. But it takes 60 Senate votes to even have a chance of being voted upon.


“Total control”, then, of the Senate requires 60 Democratic or Republican Senators.




On January 20th, 2009, 57 Senate seats were held by Democrats with 2 Independents (Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman) caucusing with the Democrats...which gave Democrats 59 mostly-reliable Democratic votes in the Senate, one shy of filibuster-proof “total control.” Republicans held 41 seats.


The 59 number in January, 2009 included Ted Kennedy and Al Franken. Kennedy had a seizure during an Obama inaugural luncheon and never returned to vote in the Senate.....and Al Franken was not officially seated until July 7th, 2009 (hotly contested recount demanded by Norm Coleman.)


The real Democratic Senate seat number in January, 2009 was 55 Democrats plus 2 Independents equaling 57 Senate seats.



An aside....it was during this time that Obama’s “stimulus” was passed. No Republicans in the House voted for the stimulus. However, in the Senate.....and because Democrats didn’t have “total control” of that chamber.....three Republicans.....Snowe, Collins and Specter, voted to break a filibuster guaranteeing it’s passage.


Then in April, 2009, Republican Senator Arlen Specter became a Democrat. Kennedy was still at home, dying, and Al Franken was still not seated. Score in April, 2009....Democratic votes 58.


In May, 2009, Robert Byrd got sick and did not return to the Senate until July 21, 2009. Even though Franken was finally seated July 7, 2009 and Byrd returned on July 21.....Democrats still only had 59 votes in the Senate because Kennedy never returned, dying on August 25, 2009.


Kennedy’s empty seat was temporarily filled by Paul Kirk but not until September 24, 2009.


The swearing in of Kirk finally gave Democrats 60 votes (at least potentially) in the Senate. “Total control” of Congress by Democrats lasted all of 4 months. From September 24, 2009 through February 4, 2010...at which point Scott Brown, a Republican, was sworn in to replace Kennedy’s Massachusetts seat.


The truth....then....is this: Democrats had “total control” of the House of Representatives from 2009-2011, 2 full years. Democrats, and therefore, Obama, had “total control” of the Senate from September 24, 2009 until February 4, 2010. A grand total of 4 months.


Did President Obama have “total control” of Congress? Yes, for 4 entire months. And it was during that very small time window that Obamacare was passed in the Senate with 60 all-Democratic votes.


Did President Obama have “total control’ of Congress during his first two years as president? Absolutely not and any assertions to the contrary.....as you can plainly see in the above chronology....is a lie.
 
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