Has Jesus come in the spirit?

marks · Aug 21, 2019

Philip James said:
Hello marks,
Is that what it says? What does 'continue' mean in enternity?

I mean to say that Christ's passion, death and ressurection, the mystery of HIS paschal sacrifice is ever present in eternity and thus is also present in all times and in all places.

This is why scripture somewhere speaks of HIM 'slain before the founding of the world'
And elsewhere describes HIM as 'a Lamb who appeared as one who had been slain'...

Peace!

P.s hope you're feeling better.

I am, thank you!

I don't think that verse means that the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. If you compare the two parallel passages in Revelation, I think you find that what was from the foundation of the world is that there are names that remain in the book of life from that time.

Christ's offering was in this world, in that time, once for all, a completed act within the history of this world.

Much love!

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
So you confess that the kjv is the word of the Lord then?

I have never said otherwise.

But the real question is: Why is someone who has falsely accused me, quizzing me? Why should I answer you at all? Why should I not just let God deal with you?

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

historyb said:
Your funny. No wonder evangelicals are so lost

They say, that if someone says that your sword isn't sharp, don't try to convince them of it...use it on them.

So, I bring to your attention, whether you deny the veracity of the Lord's word or not...

Rom 12:4, For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
Rom 12:5, So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

There are many members in one body.

Eph 5:23, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

If anyone is saved, they are in the body of Christ.

Col 1:18, And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

The church is the body of Christ.

1Ti 3:15, But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

This is the verse that you have misquoted.

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

ScottA said:
I have never said otherwise.

But the real question is: Why is someone who has falsely accused me, quizzing me? Why should I answer you at all? Why should I not just let God deal with you?

Likewise, why should I answer you at all? Only because I care about those whom you might deceive.

You have never said otherwise: but do you confess that the kjv is the word of the Lord? that is the question. Not, "do you not deny that the kjv is the word" but, "do you confess that it is?"

You don't want to answer because you know that scripture is coming out of the kjv that will demolish your pov.

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

historyb said:
STOP CALLING ME BOB!

ROFL!

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
Likewise, why should I answer you at all? Only because I care about those whom you might deceive.

You have never said otherwise: but do you confess that the kjv is the word of the Lord? that is the question. Not, "do you not deny that the kjv is the word" but, "do you confess that it is?"

You don't want to answer because you know that scripture is coming out of the kjv that will demolish your pov.

I don't have a POV.

But the Word of God, whether the KJV or any word from the God, is not against me, but for me. You, on the other hand have some explaining to do.

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

ScottA said:
I don't have a POV.

But the Word of God, whether the KJV or any word from the God, is not against me, but for me. You, on the other hand have some explaining to do.

Do you confess that the kjv is the word of the Lord?

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

We don't even need to here rehash what it says in the kjv that refutes your position. It would be redundant to a certain extent.

Philip James · Aug 21, 2019

marks said:
Christ's offering was in this world, in that time, once for all, a completed act within the history of this world.

Indeed, and it is that ONE completed act, that gives birth to the new creation which is eternal.

Peace!

Waiting on him · Aug 21, 2019

marks said:
I am, thank you!

I don't think that verse means that the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. If you compare the two parallel passages in Revelation, I think you find that what was from the foundation of the world is that there are names that remain in the book of life from that time.

Christ's offering was in this world, in that time, once for all, a completed act within the history of this world.

Much love!

Glad to hear your feeling better Mark.
Just a question Jesus says take up your cross and follow me, what do you believe that means?

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
Do you confess that the kjv is the word of the Lord?

I will first ask you a question:

“How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

'The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’

Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

ScottA said:
But the Word of God, whether the KJV or any word from the God, is not against me, but for me.

The kjv is against you.

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

ScottA said:
I will first ask you a question:

“How is it that the scribes say that the Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Spirit:

'The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’

Therefore David himself calls Him ‘Lord’; how is He then his Son?”

I will answer, even though it has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Jesus is God in His Deity; but He is made according to the seed of David according to the flesh.

Romans 1:3 (kjv), Isaiah 45:11.

Waiting on him · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
The kjv is against you.

I’m interested to hear your answer for post 311?

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
The kjv is against you.

Says you who lies and then makes more hollow claims.

Waiting on him · Aug 21, 2019

^ claims

Waiting on him · Aug 21, 2019

Just keeping it real.

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

ScottA said:
Says you who lies and then makes more hollow calms.

Now, get ready to block:

in the kjv:

1Jo 4:1, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jo 4:2, Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jo 4:3, And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2Jo 1:7, For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

justbyfaith · Aug 21, 2019

2Co 4:3, But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co 2:14, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Act 28:26, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
Act 28:27, For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

ScottA · Aug 21, 2019

justbyfaith said:
I will answer, even though it has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Jesus is God in His Deity; but He is made according to the seed of David according to the flesh.

Romans 1:3 (kjv), Isaiah 45:11.

Fail.

If Jesus were not David's Lord, He would still be David's seed according to the flesh. So that is not an answer. You have not answered how He is David's Lord, also being his seed.

Therefore, I will not give you an answer to your question either.

But if you think you can back your lies and claims with the scriptures--go for it, and I will show you where you are wrong (again).

Has Jesus come in the spirit?

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