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So he quoted it and agreed? Yeah, the guy loves to wind people up while he sells off America.
His Presidency is a shell game, for sure
MORE LEFTIST NONSENSE. The Democrats under Obama were selling off America daily, and would have finished that dastardly work under Clinton. Now we have the pathetic and clueless candidates from the Left wanting to replace Trump, and finish the job of destroying America, and making it into another third world Communist country. Let's hope the voters are not fooled by these deceivers.
 

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Would you thank someone who compared you to the second coming of God?
You are really going off on a tangent here. First you quote a totally unreliable source like Vanity Fair, then you want to twist things around. Trump did not thank anyone for comparing him to God or the Messiah. Read his quote and stop trying to vilify him.

Leftist people in America (including Leftist Jews) hate the idea that the nation of Israel and the Jews in Israel love Trump. He is the only one who has stood up for them while Obama, the Democrats, the United Nations, and the European Union, along with almost all the Muslims worldwide hate Israel. Antisemitism has grown by leaps and bounds over the last little while, but Trump not only made Jerusalem the capital of Israel, he has stood with Israel consistently. He should be praised for that, and supported for doing the right thing.
 

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You are really going off on a tangent here. First you quote a totally unreliable source like Vanity Fair, then you want to twist things around. Trump did not thank anyone for comparing him to God or the Messiah. Read his quote and stop trying to vilify him.

Leftist people in America (including Leftist Jews) hate the idea that the nation of Israel and the Jews in Israel love Trump. He is the only one who has stood up for them while Obama, the Democrats, the United Nations, and the European Union, along with almost all the Muslims worldwide hate Israel. Antisemitism has grown by leaps and bounds over the last little while, but Trump not only made Jerusalem the capital of Israel, he has stood with Israel consistently. He should be praised for that, and supported for doing the right thing.

I read everything the man said about Trump.Not some of it but all of it just as Trump did.
Im sure Trump loved being compared to God.

Would you also?
 

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trump says a lot of things he speaks before he he thinks what to say ..i dont think he believes he is God.. he needs use his words better
 

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I'm sorry, i am not an American, so take this however you please...

When I watched President Trump's address on Indepence Day, I could't help but hear him saying: 'look how great we have made ourselves',
And immediately was brought to mind Nebuchanezzar.
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Please don't get me wrong, I LOVE the American ideal, and my brothers and sisters there...
But it only works when Jesus is King! When your nation forgets that its ideals degenerate into , well, 'the culture of death'

And I weep for America!

That she would remember her first love.. Not freedom, but the freedom that comes IN Jesus!

Peace be with you!
 
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I'm sorry, i am not an American, so take this however you please...

When I watched President Trump's address on Indepence Day, I could't help but hear him saying: 'look how great we have made ourselves',
And immediately was brought to mind Nebuchanezzar.
:(

Please don't get me wrong, I LOVE the American ideal, and my brothers and sisters there...
But it only works when Jesus is King! When your nation forgets that its ideals degenerate into , well, 'the culture of death'

And I weep for America!

That she would remember her first love.. Not freedom, but the freedom that comes IN Jesus!

Peace be with you!
he has way of opening his mouth a putting his foot in his mouth... that part bothers me i agree with many of his policies not his way of doing it... he had some fantastic leadership positions filled .very qualified people.. he wants to go it alone minus there advice.. i support him i pray for him.
Please don't get me wrong, I LOVE the American ideal, and my brothers and sisters there...
But it only works when Jesus is King! When your nation forgets that its ideals degenerate into , well, 'the culture of death'

And I weep for America!
agreed and thank you we are a nation once held values needs to turn away from
 

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I'm sorry, i am not an American, so take this however you please...

When I watched President Trump's address on Indepence Day, I could't help but hear him saying: 'look how great we have made ourselves',
And immediately was brought to mind Nebuchanezzar.
:(

Please don't get me wrong, I LOVE the American ideal, and my brothers and sisters there...
But it only works when Jesus is King! When your nation forgets that its ideals degenerate into , well, 'the culture of death'

And I weep for America!

That she would remember her first love.. Not freedom, but the freedom that comes IN Jesus!

Peace be with you!
It is God who rises up leaders.

I have met and talked with President Trump and He is nothing like what you see presented in the media. What you are seeing [unfortunately] is the rhetoric of people who hate him and are showing the fruit of being sore losers; and of course you are also hearing his fighting words, the words of a man under attack, a man standing up for that American ideal, even for God...and yes, they hate that.

Even here among what would appear to be a Christian forum community, many so-called Christians either wanted someone worse and voted to support known enemies of all that is Christian, or they wanted someone to clean up the mess of resent years, but now blame him for being a tough guy, when a tough guy was what was needed.

Meanwhile, we have spiritual warfare going on in American politics...and it is Trump who is fighting for God, family, and country.
 
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The problem is that he is only serving a fraction of the people and he is setting himself up as an Emperor - cutting out congress and stacking the courts with fringe conservatives. Ends justify the means
I'll confess that there is much of American political structure that I am ignorant of. But putting aside the exact procedures that cause the government to run, from what I can see, it is no wonder the President is having to make decisions without perhaps gaining full approval. Granted my memory does not go back that far, but it seems to me the schism in politics is as great as it has been for some time. I say this with some hesitation, as I know you swing more towards the liberal side, and I do not wish to insult you, but I suppose we all must speak what we see as truth...so:
The Democrats in America seem to be imploding under the weight of their own corruption. They support the most heinous laws in terms of abortion, have began pushing socialism, all the while ignoring those starving in Venezuela...or alternatively blaming the Country's plight on Trump...although how they arrive at that conclusion I have no idea. The party seems to encourage anti-semitism, anti-american sentiment, embracing those who, if we had probably been privy to them at the time, had been cheering at 9/11. They promote fake news, thinking that if they scream a narrative long enough, loud enough, people will believe it. This rubbish about Trump being a racist is the perfect example. I don't doubt Trump is probably, in person, a raging jerk. He strikes me as such. But the news people and the left who, after this latest tragic massacre in America, have once again promoted the idea that Trump said that there were "very fine" White Supremacists, is just a bald faced lie that is easy displaced by watching the conference where Trump was mis-quoted. He was quite clear in condemning such people. The Democrats have decided that it's not just Trump who is racist, however, but everyone who voted for him, or oppose the Dems and what they stand for. Suddenly to be "not Left" is to be a White Nationalists (read: Nazi) who deserves to be beaten up by Antifa, who are not terrorists, apparently.
And the 'funny' thing is, it was only about two years ago that the Left's mantra was "tolerance". Well...tolerance doesn't exists anymore. If you are a conservative...and by that I mean any side of far left...then you are a "hater" who must be shouted down, possibly even put down with violence if necessary. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore if the law is actually on our side, or science, or rationality or morality. Because in a society where what is 'right' is based solely upon feelings, and those are totally subjective. That means that whoever is "loudest" enough in their feelings becomes morally right. It's become a "might is right" society...and Antifa is paving the way. The sad thing is, they've taken their lesson from the Democratic party. They might not have resorted to violence, but when a group of people throw morals away, lie, yell in effort to overpower the voice of reason or truth...or even just a different opinion or thought....just like children, people will look, see and copy...and then escalate.

So...do I think that Trump and his "stacked" conservatives are the problem in America? No. Absolutely not. In fact, as much as I think Trump is a muppet in many things, I tend to think the people he's put in the places he has is the only thing stopping your Country from following Venezuela up the path to wrath and ruin. But, of course....that is entirely my own opinion, and I freely admit I have my own predujuices and biases. I suppose we all do really.
 
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I'll confess that there is much of American political structure that I am ignorant of. But putting aside the exact procedures that cause the government to run, from what I can see, it is no wonder the President is having to make decisions without perhaps gaining full approval. Granted my memory does not go back that far, but it seems to me the schism in politics is as great as it has been for some time. I say this with some hesitation, as I know you swing more towards the liberal side, and I do not wish to insult you, but I suppose we all must speak what we see as truth...so:
The Democrats in America seem to be imploding under the weight of their own corruption. They support the most heinous laws in terms of abortion, have began pushing socialism, all the while ignoring those starving in Venezuela...or alternatively blaming the Country's plight on Trump...although how they arrive at that conclusion I have no idea. The party seems to encourage anti-semitism, anti-american sentiment, embracing those who, if we had probably been privy to them at the time, had been cheering at 9/11. They promote fake news, thinking that if they scream a narrative long enough, loud enough, people will believe it. This rubbish about Trump being a racist is the perfect example. I don't doubt Trump is probably, in person, a raging jerk. He strikes me as such. But the news people and the left who, after this latest tragic massacre in America, have once again promoted the idea that Trump said that there were "very fine" White Supremacists, is just a bald faced lie that is easy displaced by watching the conference where Trump was mis-quoted. He was quite clear in condemning such people. The Democrats have decided that it's not just Trump who is racist, however, but everyone who voted for him, or oppose the Dems and what they stand for. Suddenly to be "not Left" is to be a White Nationalists (read: Nazi) who deserves to be beaten up by Antifa, who are not terrorists, apparently.
And the 'funny' thing is, it was only about two years ago that the Left's mantra was "tolerance". Well...tolerance doesn't exists anymore. If you are a conservative...and by that I mean any side of far left...then you are a "hater" who must be shouted down, possibly even put down with violence if necessary. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore if the law is actually on our side, or science, or rationality or morality. Because in a society where what is 'right' is based solely upon feelings, and those are totally subjective. That means that whoever is "loudest" enough in their feelings becomes morally right. It's become a "might is right" society...and Antifa is paving the way. The sad thing is, they've taken their lesson from the Democratic party. They might not have resorted to violence, but when a group of people throw morals away, lie, yell in effort to overpower the voice of reason or truth...or even just a different opinion or thought....just like children, people will look, see and copy...and then escalate.

So...do I think that Trump and his "stacked" conservatives are the problem in America? No. Absolutely not. In fact, as much as I think Trump is a muppet in many things, I tend to think the people he's put in the places he has is the only thing stopping your Country from following Venezuela up the path to wrath and ruin. But, of course....that is entirely my own opinion, and I freely admit I have my own predujuices and biases. I suppose we all do really.

Yes. We disagree on American politics. I like your posts on theology
 

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How do you know what is in Trump's heart? Read his words and don't try to play God by presuming to know the heart of Trump.

Its not hard with Trump because he cant keep his mouth shut.He has no,control over his mouth.

This is how you can,tell whats in someones heart.

Matthew 12:34 KJV: O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Matthew 15:18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a man.
 
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I'll confess that there is much of American political structure that I am ignorant of. But putting aside the exact procedures that cause the government to run, from what I can see, it is no wonder the President is having to make decisions without perhaps gaining full approval. Granted my memory does not go back that far, but it seems to me the schism in politics is as great as it has been for some time. I say this with some hesitation, as I know you swing more towards the liberal side, and I do not wish to insult you, but I suppose we all must speak what we see as truth...so:
The Democrats in America seem to be imploding under the weight of their own corruption. They support the most heinous laws in terms of abortion, have began pushing socialism, all the while ignoring those starving in Venezuela...or alternatively blaming the Country's plight on Trump...although how they arrive at that conclusion I have no idea. The party seems to encourage anti-semitism, anti-american sentiment, embracing those who, if we had probably been privy to them at the time, had been cheering at 9/11. They promote fake news, thinking that if they scream a narrative long enough, loud enough, people will believe it. This rubbish about Trump being a racist is the perfect example. I don't doubt Trump is probably, in person, a raging jerk. He strikes me as such. But the news people and the left who, after this latest tragic massacre in America, have once again promoted the idea that Trump said that there were "very fine" White Supremacists, is just a bald faced lie that is easy displaced by watching the conference where Trump was mis-quoted. He was quite clear in condemning such people. The Democrats have decided that it's not just Trump who is racist, however, but everyone who voted for him, or oppose the Dems and what they stand for. Suddenly to be "not Left" is to be a White Nationalists (read: Nazi) who deserves to be beaten up by Antifa, who are not terrorists, apparently.
And the 'funny' thing is, it was only about two years ago that the Left's mantra was "tolerance". Well...tolerance doesn't exists anymore. If you are a conservative...and by that I mean any side of far left...then you are a "hater" who must be shouted down, possibly even put down with violence if necessary. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore if the law is actually on our side, or science, or rationality or morality. Because in a society where what is 'right' is based solely upon feelings, and those are totally subjective. That means that whoever is "loudest" enough in their feelings becomes morally right. It's become a "might is right" society...and Antifa is paving the way. The sad thing is, they've taken their lesson from the Democratic party. They might not have resorted to violence, but when a group of people throw morals away, lie, yell in effort to overpower the voice of reason or truth...or even just a different opinion or thought....just like children, people will look, see and copy...and then escalate.

So...do I think that Trump and his "stacked" conservatives are the problem in America? No. Absolutely not. In fact, as much as I think Trump is a muppet in many things, I tend to think the people he's put in the places he has is the only thing stopping your Country from following Venezuela up the path to wrath and ruin. But, of course....that is entirely my own opinion, and I freely admit I have my own predujuices and biases. I suppose we all do really.

Youve pretty much summed politics in the US perfectly.
The things youve mentioned about the democratic party are the same reasons the phycopath in the white house will remain in the white house come election time.Even though Trump is a psychopath with a short fuse,he does at least try to do the things he says he will and in many instances does them.This is unheard of in,America politics.Normally a politician says they will do one thing but once elected ,they seem to forget everything they said.Trump at least tries to do the things he has promised.If he hasnt its because the fight hes been getting from democrats who seem to be on the wrong side of everything.
For the most part Trump will be successful just as the scripture says.But as for his peaceplan and bringing Israel peace, he is way out of his league. Insted of bringing Israel peace ,he brings it destruction.There is only one who can bring peace and security to the land of Israel and Trump isnt him.
 

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Scripture says the king came to power through "intrigue ".
Ithink many peole are intregued with Trump. Thats explains the rallies.
I do wonder how people seem to concurrently think Trump is both too stupid to make complete sentences, but also is secretly the most cunning, ruthless, wicked man of all time.
I laughed like a loon when he mocked AOC for staging a weeping photo op in a parking lot. Or when he tweeted "boring" about the entire Democratic debate which was really about who was going to allow people to kill their babies the latest.
And do you know why? It's not because I particularly like the man, but because for all his blustering buffoonary (is that a word?), he usually says it like it is, as opposed to lying like a pig in mud. Pretty much every Democratic candidate that has managed to make the news over here, has shown a consistent, concerted drive to be amoral in a number of things. And call me old fashioned, but as a Christian, I just can't find it in myself to support the murder of children, or approve of lying, or the stiring up of racial tensions for political gain. I'd rather an idiot to an actual evil person any time. At least an idiot, like a broken clock, has the chance of being right at least twice a day. Someone with a moral compass pointing in the opposite direction of what the bible teaches is not going to do well for a Country that was founded upon said principles.
 

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Yes. We disagree on American politics. I like your posts on theology
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I dislike politics when it really gets down to it...it makes me feel...grubby! I much prefer to focus on theology. Won't it be grand when this world ends and the only ruler we ever have again is Christ. Then, I suspect, we'll agree very much!!
 
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Youve pretty much summed politics in the US perfectly.
The things youve mentioned about the democratic party are the same reasons the phycopath in the white house will remain in the white house come election time.Even though Trump is a psychopath with a short fuse,he does at least try to do the things he says he will and in many instances does them.This is unheard of in,America politics.Normally a politician says they will do one thing but once elected ,they seem to forget everything they said.Trump at least tries to do the things he has promised.If he hasnt its because the fight hes been getting from democrats who seem to be on the wrong side of everything.
For the most part Trump will be successful just as the scripture says.But as for his peaceplan and bringing Israel peace, he is way out of his league. Insted of bringing Israel peace ,he brings it destruction.There is only one who can bring peace and security to the land of Israel and Trump isnt him.

I sometimes wonder if most of the sucess the Trump administration has had is not so much Trump, but the people around him. He really used Pence and the conservative vote to get in, so he kind of rode that and, as Aspen said, stacked the deck around him. I think that's a good thing, though. I've heard there's even bible study's and prayer happening in the White House...here's hoping that's true.
But if Trump wants to sit in his round room and hum the Presidential tune to himself while all those other half decent people get on with what they've been doing...well...may it continue for another 4 years.
 

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I sometimes wonder if most of the sucess the Trump administration has had is not so much Trump, but the people around him. He really used Pence and the conservative vote to get in, so he kind of rode that and, as Aspen said, stacked the deck around him. I think that's a good thing, though. I've heard there's even bible study's and prayer happening in the White House...here's hoping that's true.
But if Trump wants to sit in his round room and hum the Presidential tune to himself while all those other half decent people get on with what they've been doing...well...may it continue for another 4 years.

I think thats the case.
Tell me this.What do you think about the previous presidents in. Daniel chapter 11 before the vile man came to power in Daniel 11:21?

Daniel 11:21 NLT: "The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.

What did you think about the raiser of taxes who preceded the despicable man or even the president before him who went to war with the king of the south in daniel11:15?
I know after 9/11 most of the world stood behind him,but what did you think of him?

Daniel 11:15 KJV: So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
 

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I sometimes wonder if most of the sucess the Trump administration has had is not so much Trump, but the people around him. He really used Pence and the conservative vote to get in, so he kind of rode that and, as Aspen said, stacked the deck around him. I think that's a good thing, though. I've heard there's even bible study's and prayer happening in the White House...here's hoping that's true.
But if Trump wants to sit in his round room and hum the Presidential tune to himself while all those other half decent people get on with what they've been doing...well...may it continue for another 4 years.

PS,I really liked Reagon.I grew up on cowboy movies .;)

Daniel 11:8 KJV: And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.

Reagon-RIP
 
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I'll confess that there is much of American political structure that I am ignorant of. But putting aside the exact procedures that cause the government to run, from what I can see, it is no wonder the President is having to make decisions without perhaps gaining full approval. Granted my memory does not go back that far, but it seems to me the schism in politics is as great as it has been for some time. I say this with some hesitation, as I know you swing more towards the liberal side, and I do not wish to insult you, but I suppose we all must speak what we see as truth...so:
The Democrats in America seem to be imploding under the weight of their own corruption. They support the most heinous laws in terms of abortion, have began pushing socialism, all the while ignoring those starving in Venezuela...or alternatively blaming the Country's plight on Trump...although how they arrive at that conclusion I have no idea. The party seems to encourage anti-semitism, anti-american sentiment, embracing those who, if we had probably been privy to them at the time, had been cheering at 9/11. They promote fake news, thinking that if they scream a narrative long enough, loud enough, people will believe it. This rubbish about Trump being a racist is the perfect example. I don't doubt Trump is probably, in person, a raging jerk. He strikes me as such. But the news people and the left who, after this latest tragic massacre in America, have once again promoted the idea that Trump said that there were "very fine" White Supremacists, is just a bald faced lie that is easy displaced by watching the conference where Trump was mis-quoted. He was quite clear in condemning such people. The Democrats have decided that it's not just Trump who is racist, however, but everyone who voted for him, or oppose the Dems and what they stand for. Suddenly to be "not Left" is to be a White Nationalists (read: Nazi) who deserves to be beaten up by Antifa, who are not terrorists, apparently.
And the 'funny' thing is, it was only about two years ago that the Left's mantra was "tolerance". Well...tolerance doesn't exists anymore. If you are a conservative...and by that I mean any side of far left...then you are a "hater" who must be shouted down, possibly even put down with violence if necessary. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore if the law is actually on our side, or science, or rationality or morality. Because in a society where what is 'right' is based solely upon feelings, and those are totally subjective. That means that whoever is "loudest" enough in their feelings becomes morally right. It's become a "might is right" society...and Antifa is paving the way. The sad thing is, they've taken their lesson from the Democratic party. They might not have resorted to violence, but when a group of people throw morals away, lie, yell in effort to overpower the voice of reason or truth...or even just a different opinion or thought....just like children, people will look, see and copy...and then escalate.

So...do I think that Trump and his "stacked" conservatives are the problem in America? No. Absolutely not. In fact, as much as I think Trump is a muppet in many things, I tend to think the people he's put in the places he has is the only thing stopping your Country from following Venezuela up the path to wrath and ruin. But, of course....that is entirely my own opinion, and I freely admit I have my own predujuices and biases. I suppose we all do really.

In the US, as in much of the rest of the world I suspect, we are caught in a false dichotomy- and this is really the key to understanding the strong delusion in the end-times.

Both the US left & right work together. When the right needs to rally their base, the 'left' will manufacture a news item that will rally the 'right's group. Same with the left. That way, nothing ever changes.

The right will see the 'evil' of the left and it will create a legitimacy that really shouldn't exist. And vice versa. All the way up until the end.

The 'left' is groomed and encouraged to be 'tolerant' & 'pagan' & 'meritocratic' (survival of the fittest)

The 'right' is groomed and encouraged to be 'racist' & 'social darwinists' (survival of the fittest) (the 'princes of Israel are wolves' Ezekiel 22:27

The left in the US (Democrats) are groomed to be part of the United Nations (which is the modern equivalent of the king of the North - hence the UN flag being oriented from the North pole.)

The right in the US (Republicans) are groomed to be part of the future Illuminati (spiritual Egypt) (which is the modern equivalent of the king of the South) (if you have seen the movie Atlas Shrugged, something like that, the ideology of libertarianism & Ayn Rand which makes a virtue of selfishness. In the movies, it is even making veiled references to 'socialism ruining the country' - meaning when the king of the North / aka the socialist UN has sway over the US presumably).

(I don't want to pass up the chance to point out that the Republican logo has 3 Satanic stars on it: File:Republicanlogo.svg - Wikimedia Commons . It used to have 3 normal stars until the early 2000's I believe, so they purposefully changed it to 3 Satanic stars. This from the political party that used to (rightly) accuse heavy metal music of being Satanic; and one of the indicators of this was the upside down Satanic star the bands would parade around. The times do change!

It's helpful to remember that the 'covenant with Death & hell' is actually about Israel's covenant with Egypt (king of the south). Israel wanted military support from Egypt so as to survive an attack by the king of the North. The king of the North is the empire with the 'Zeus' idol (based on Antiochus). The king of the South is the empire that will have the microchip implant. (see Isaiah 36:6)

The 'mark of the beast' is actually deliberately ambiguous, but it is actually talking about 2 marks of the beast: the mark of the king of the North & the mark of the king of the South (which is the microchip that pierces the hand of all who rely on Pharaoh). In the time before the end, both sides will think that the other is evil - and that is how people fall for the trap.

At the end, the UN empire will adopt the microchip & the Illuminati empire will worship the Lucifer of the UN empire. That is how it appears to me.
 

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I do wonder how people seem to concurrently think Trump is both too stupid to make complete sentences, but also is secretly the most cunning, ruthless, wicked man of all time.
That's because Trump does not fit into anyone's mold. He is a very smart man, otherwise he would not be where he is, when the the whole world was against him. But he has made many mistakes and sabotaged himself. And that's a shame. He could easily have been one of the greatest American presidents.

As for all the Leftist NONSENSE about Trump, people should simply ignore it. The Left has absolutely nothing to offer, so all they can do is sling mud daily. They wallow in the mire.
 

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That's because Trump does not fit into anyone's mold. He is a very smart man, otherwise he would not be where he is, when the the whole world was against him. But he has made many mistakes and sabotaged himself. And that's a shame. He could easily have been one of the greatest American presidents.

As for all the Leftist NONSENSE about Trump, people should simply ignore it. The Left has absolutely nothing to offer, so all they can do is sling mud daily. They wallow in the mire.
No he doesn't fit the mold....I think that is why he became president. People are tired of the same political script that so many follow. His message is unscripted and most pray God will help him refrain from tweeting....it needs alot of restraining.
 
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