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Mighty Bear · Nov 4, 2008

When we look at the animals, it's hard to differentiate one from another because they all look the same, same thing regarding the children of God. There is only one image of God and that is the image of Christ.Ephesians 4:4-6 ESV There is one body and one Spirit--just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call-- (5) one Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.1 Corinthians 6:17 ESV But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.John 6:63 ESV It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.John 15:5 ESV I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.Luke 11:34-36 ESV Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eye is healthy, your whole body is full of light, but when it is bad, your body is full of darkness. (35) Therefore be careful lest the light in you be darkness. (36) If then your whole body is full of light, having no part dark, it will be wholly bright, as when a lamp with its rays gives you light."

epistemaniac · Nov 24, 2008

When we look at the animals, it's hard to differentiate one from another because they all look the same, same thing regarding the children of God.
not really

... no offense, but while your overall point is agreeable, I have no trouble distinguishing between an elephant and a giraffe, a python and a zebra, or even animals of the same family, for instance a lion versus a cheetah... a tabby cat cat versus a panther.... and while we may all have the image of God, we are all quite different alongside of having many similarities.. Paul makes this point when he speaks of Christians being gifted in different but complimentary ways... one may be a teacher, another an evangelist, another may have the gift of hospitality, but all are part of the same body...you said
There is only one image of God and that is the image of Christ.
Hmmmm.... it seems to me that the Bible says that Adam and Eve were created in the image of God as well... right?good points.... we just do not want to get the right doctrines from the wrong verses, or right beliefs from wrong presuppositions or or basis....blessings,Ken

Mighty Bear · Nov 25, 2008

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not really

... no offense, but while your overall point is agreeable, I have no trouble distinguishing between an elephant and a giraffe, a python and a zebra, or even animals of the same family, for instance a lion versus a cheetah... a tabby cat cat versus a panther.... and while we may all have the image of God, we are all quite different alongside of having many similarities.. Paul makes this point when he speaks of Christians being gifted in different but complimentary ways... one may be a teacher, another an evangelist, another may have the gift of hospitality, but all are part of the same body...
Gifts would cease.1 Corinthians 13:8 ESV Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.(epistemaniac;64559)
Hmmmm.... it seems to me that the Bible says that Adam and Eve were created in the image of God as well... right?
It just means that our physical bodies are sacred, meant as a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.1 Corinthians 13:9-10 ESV (9) For we know in part and we prophesy in part, (10) but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

Bibliocentrist · Nov 25, 2008

interesting that christians should be "same image".I think he meant animals of same kind are hard to differentiate, like europeans think asians all look same.Don't we always hear it said that we are all created unique? Hence (different kinds of) "immutable" animals represent individuals in fiction animations.A previous aquaintance of mine once said "[...look at john baptist he was different, (and then look how different zaccheus was)...]".Some say image (of God) in genesis 1/2 = His/our nature.Androids made in image of man (cp humanoid, anthropoid, homin(o)id). (I once heard someone claim image of beast is humans creating life.)one mould/prototype?We all came from one origin (Adam) cf Acts 17:26. Jesus was "2nd/last Adam".Clinton speech on genome map occasion "[we are 99(?) percent same]", and comment of some "[the 1(?) % different is alot]"World's counterfeit: "out of the many one".One body, different parts, one blood.God is "infinite (variety)".( On a tangent it is interesting to try work out what that eye/body verse is deeperly saying:-"moses" with "horns/rays/koren"?-3rd eye/mind's eye?-another verse "if your "eye" offends you pluck it out...." says better to have One eye than Two. (& "eye is no member")?-eyes symbolise sun & moon?-Jesus/God is (the) Light? )

epistemaniac · Nov 25, 2008

Gifts would cease....? And.......?you said
It just means that our physical bodies are sacred, meant as a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.
No... I disagree... if this were the case, then our being created in the image of God means that our bodies are sacred, then it would follow that being created in the image of God means that God has a body. But only Mormons believe this. You don't believe that God has a body do you? If not, then you have to also say that being created in the image of God has to mean something other than our physical bodies, perhaps something to do with our spirits, minds and will.blessings,Ken

epistemaniac · Nov 25, 2008

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interesting that christians should be "same image".I think he meant animals of same kind are hard to differentiate, like europeans think asians all look same.Don't we always hear it said that we are all created unique? Hence (different kinds of) "immutable" animals represent individuals in fiction animations.A previous aquaintance of mine once said "[...look at john baptist he was different, (and then look how different zaccheus was)...]".Some say image (of God) in genesis 1/2 = His/our nature.Androids made in image of man (cp humanoid, anthropoid, homin(o)id). (I once heard someone claim image of beast is humans creating life.)one mould/prototype?We all came from one origin (Adam) cf Acts 17:26. Jesus was "2nd/last Adam".Clinton speech on genome map occasion "[we are 99(?) percent same]", and comment of some "[the 1(?) % different is alot]"World's counterfeit: "out of the many one".One body, different parts, one blood.God is "infinite (variety)".( On a tangent it is interesting to try work out what that eye/body verse is deeperly saying:-"moses" with "horns/rays/koren"?-3rd eye/mind's eye?-another verse "if your "eye" offends you pluck it out...." says better to have One eye than Two. (& "eye is no member")?-eyes symbolise sun & moon?-Jesus/God is (the) Light? )
interesting thoughts.... I could very well be misunderstanding Mighty Bear.... if so... my apologies.... but in his response, he never indicated that I misunderstood him..... though he was a bit cryptic to be sure....as to your post.... since I am not sure if you were disagreeing or agreeing your statement that "God is infinite variety"... would be that God's being infinite seems more to do with his being infinite, not in variety, since He is one/triune and totally unique, there is none like Him.... and that His infinite nature is described by the classical attributes ascribed to Him, eg omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience, etcblessings,Ken

Mighty Bear · Nov 26, 2008

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Gifts would cease....? And.......?
Yes, it's written in Zechariah 13 for the house of David.(epistemaniac;64638)
No... I disagree... if this were the case, then our being created in the image of God means that our bodies are sacred, then it would follow that being created in the image of God means that God has a body. But only Mormons believe this. You don't believe that God has a body do you? If not, then you have to also say that being created in the image of God has to mean something other than our physical bodies, perhaps something to do with our spirits, minds and will.
No one has seen God and our Lord Jesus said that if you have seen Him, you have seen the Father, so in order for God to show His real nature/person God must take the form of a human being, meaning having a physical body.John 1:18 ESV No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.Hebrews 1:3 ESV He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,Isaiah 53:5 ESV But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed.Fruits of the SpiritGalatians 5:22-24 ESV But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, (23) gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. (24) And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

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