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Shanmugam

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Welcome to the forum.
Regarding your video: Very good my friend! I enjoyed listening and agree with much. May God richly bless you as you continue your walk with Him!


Give God the glory!
By the way, one Penticost friend said he found a few concepts discussed in this video as offensive. He didn't say anything more. Do you see anything in the video that might offend someone?

Anyway, wanted to share a poem too, which has a lot of messages from the Bible:

Your life is the most beautiful mystery
And the screen which plays your private history;
Your life is the truth, consciousness, and bliss
That can’t be pointed out as that or this.

The life screen is the only truth you know;
All that are manifest move in its show;
This essence of life is your true nature;
Knowing this ends the distress and torture.

The one truth that pervades the time and space
Shines in the heart and showers love and grace;
By the veil of darkness it is concealed;
By nonstop inquiry, it is revealed.

That one truth is called by various names;
Deep inside you, it eternally flames;
It is the immortal life and the way;
Look inside, you can find its sparkling ray!

From the dawn of life, seers have seen this
And were reborn by its transforming kiss;
Unless you’re reborn as a wide-eyed kid,
It remains tucked away by a dark lid.

Those who mourn will be appeased by its shade;
Their craving thirst will be killed by its blade;
Those who cleaned their heart are blessed by its touch;
The mere words can convey only this much.

Neither moth nor rust can impair this truth;
None can steal it and none can cause your ruth;
No spade can cut it and fire can’t burn it;
Water can’t wet it and wind can’t dry it.

The birds of the blue sky don’t sow or reap;
About tomorrow, they don’t grieve or weep;
Like those blissful birds, you can become free
Then You’re not the wave, but the boundless sea!

Listen to this good news and wipe your tears!
Wake up from your dream and destroy your fears!
The guiding good shepherd is inside you
As a light that shines with a golden hue!

Whoever has ears, let them hear this song;
With their friends and foes, let them get along!
The kingdom of heaven is filled with love
where the peace descends on you like a dove!
 

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By the way, one Penticost friend said he found a few concepts discussed in this video as offensive. He didn't say anything more. Do you see anything in the video that might offend someone?

Anyway, wanted to share a poem too, which has a lot of messages from the Bible:

Your life is the most beautiful mystery
And the screen which plays your private history;
Your life is the truth, consciousness, and bliss
That can’t be pointed out as that or this.

The life screen is the only truth you know;
All that are manifest move in its show;
This essence of life is your true nature;
Knowing this ends the distress and torture.

The one truth that pervades the time and space
Shines in the heart and showers love and grace;
By the veil of darkness it is concealed;
By nonstop inquiry, it is revealed.

That one truth is called by various names;
Deep inside you, it eternally flames;
It is the immortal life and the way;
Look inside, you can find its sparkling ray!

From the dawn of life, seers have seen this
And were reborn by its transforming kiss;
Unless you’re reborn as a wide-eyed kid,
It remains tucked away by a dark lid.

Those who mourn will be appeased by its shade;
Their craving thirst will be killed by its blade;
Those who cleaned their heart are blessed by its touch;
The mere words can convey only this much.

Neither moth nor rust can impair this truth;
None can steal it and none can cause your ruth;
No spade can cut it and fire can’t burn it;
Water can’t wet it and wind can’t dry it.

The birds of the blue sky don’t sow or reap;
About tomorrow, they don’t grieve or weep;
Like those blissful birds, you can become free
Then You’re not the wave, but the boundless sea!

Listen to this good news and wipe your tears!
Wake up from your dream and destroy your fears!
The guiding good shepherd is inside you
As a light that shines with a golden hue!

Whoever has ears, let them hear this song;
With their friends and foes, let them get along!
The kingdom of heaven is filled with love
where the peace descends on you like a dove!
Good job on the poetry, welcome to the forum.
 

Episkopos

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Welcome here! :) I hope you stick around. I think you have understood a great deal about the personal relationship aspect of the faith. Very good grasp of the kingdom's effect on a person. Not so much about God's actual nature though... :)

But besides your idea that God is not an actual person...I find you are very much Christian in your way of thinking. It's good to have you here.
 

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By the way, one Penticost friend said he found a few concepts discussed in this video as offensive. He didn't say anything more. Do you see anything in the video that might offend someone?

Thank you for the poem. I must be honest in saying I have a hard time understanding poetry, but please don't take that as criticism. That's just me admitting my ignorance in that area.

I was not offended by your video, but I have some beliefs which often don't line up with many on this forum... although they are found in the Bible. Some other here will certainly disagree with you on some points, and some of them may take offence. Unfortunately that is nature of the beast which is man. I will mention two things that quickly come to my mind: heaven and hell. I like your expressed idea about them but as you, I believe, already know, they are NOT held by most traditional church group members. They should not be offended, but don't be surprised if they are...
 
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Shanmugam

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Welcome here! :) I hope you stick around. I think you have understood a great deal about the personal relationship aspect of the faith. Very good grasp of the kingdom's effect on a person. Not so much about God's actual nature though... :)

But besides your idea that God is not an actual person...I find you are very much Christian in your way of thinking. It's good to have you here.
Thanks for the detailed feedback..
 

Shanmugam

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Thank you for the poem. I must be honest in saying I have a hard time understanding poetry, but please don't take that as criticism. That's just me admitting my ignorance in that area.

I was not offended by your video, but I have some beliefs which often don't line up with many on this forum... although they are found in the Bible. Some other here will certainly with you on some points, and some of them make take offence. Unfortunately that is nature of the beast which is man. I will mention that quickly come to my mind: heaven and hell. I like your expressed idea about them but as you, I believe, already know, they are NOT held by most traditional church group members. They should not be offended, but don't be surprised if they are...
Yes I agree that they may get offended..I just got expelled from a WhatsApp group for posting this...
 
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Episkopos

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Hello brother

The ways of God are truly great. Paul says...notice the goodness AND severity of God. So then the truth is as a double edged sword. There are two sides to it.

Look at the hand of God. Look at these 2 statements so as to see that they are both true.

John 10:28
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


AND.....

Hebrews 10:31
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


So there is a balance. The early church walked in the fear of the Lord AND the comfort of the Holy Spirit.

The spiritual walk is in both realms at the same time. Living through the Spirit...but still responsible in this life. So the spiritual walk involves a great mystery...the mystery of godliness. :)

The OT God is still God. His grace is the power to walk as Jesus did..overcoming all things in this life...and fulfilling the law of God.
 

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Yes I agree that they may get offended..I just got expelled from a WhatsApp group for posting this...
There are some strange people [and I guess I am one of them], but the bottom line is that your post/video is unlikely to get you expelled. Take care and I do expect to see you around the forum.
 

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Dear all,

I am sharing a video where I have talked about the experiences and insights that I gained in Christian path. Have discussed some Bible verses and their interpretations too:

Welcome to the forum @Shanmugam !
For the record, nothing you said in your video was boring, not at all!
"God is one...the essence of existence" <---- Awesome brother, He is all in all...your humility and the simple way you speak, easy to understand. Much food for thought. I do hope you stick around.
In His Name!
nancy
 

Nancy

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Maybe you wouldn't have found us here, if you weren't suspended from WhatsApp!! Their loss is our gain. :)

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For sure! Many things he say's remind me of @Episkopos take on some things. The delivery is different between them but, I see them both saying some of the same things only in different ways?
 

amadeus

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Nah John, you're not "strange", just "peculiar" :)
Not a bad thing that, is it?

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" I Peter 2:9