Does he believe he is God?

Heart2Soul said:

No he doesn't fit the mold....I think that is why he became president. People are tired of the same political script that so many follow. His message is unscripted and most pray God will help him refrain from tweeting....it needs alot of restraining.

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I think the rhetoric was about 'draining the swamp', wasn't it?

(I'm only Canadian...)

Heart2Soul said:

Make America Great Again and drain the swamp.

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Okay! completing the phrase, right, then!

Heart2Soul said:

...most pray God will help him refrain from tweeting....it needs alot of restraining.

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Agreed. Mr. Trump is sabotaging himself by constantly tweeting. Especially when the president has his oval office to address everyone on any serious issues.

Heart2Soul said:

No he doesn't fit the mold....I think that is why he became president. People are tired of the same political script that so many follow. His message is unscripted and most pray God will help him refrain from tweeting....it needs alot of restraining.

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Re. tweeting, my wife is getting arthritic fingers. (If she were American, would this mean she couldn't run for President?)

Heart2Soul said:

She could have her attendant type for her!

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Good point! but Congress would take a dim view of the idea of the nuclear button being pushed by proxy only...

Naomi25 said:

I dislike politics when it really gets down to it...it makes me feel...grubby! I much prefer to focus on theology. Won't it be grand when this world ends and the only ruler we ever have again is Christ. Then, I suspect, we'll agree very much!!

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Hebrews 12.2: 'Looking unto Jesus'...

shilohsfoal said:

I think thats the case.
Tell me this.What do you think about the previous presidents in. Daniel chapter 11 before the vile man came to power in Daniel 11:21?

Daniel 11:21 NLT: "The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.

What did you think about the raiser of taxes who preceded the despicable man or even the president before him who went to war with the king of the south in daniel11:15?
I know after 9/11 most of the world stood behind him,but what did you think of him?

Daniel 11:15 KJV: So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.

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I think all of Daniel 11 is seen played out in history. Antiochus IV Epiphanes features heavily in the pagentry, which all lines up, unsurprisingly, with the scriptures rather neatly.
I think one doesn't need to look to the present to see fulfillment of Daniel. At least, not all of it.

shilohsfoal said:

PS,I really liked Reagon.I grew up on cowboy movies .

Daniel 11:8 KJV: And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.

Reagon-RIP

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My age and political interest doesn't really stretch too far back, sorry. I only really became *interested* (I say that sparingly, however, because it's an interest borne by necessity) in Australian politics about ten years back...American a little after that!!

dismas said:

In the US, as in much of the rest of the world I suspect, we are caught in a false dichotomy- and this is really the key to understanding the strong delusion in the end-times.

Both the US left & right work together. When the right needs to rally their base, the 'left' will manufacture a news item that will rally the 'right's group. Same with the left. That way, nothing ever changes.

The right will see the 'evil' of the left and it will create a legitimacy that really shouldn't exist. And vice versa. All the way up until the end.

The 'left' is groomed and encouraged to be 'tolerant' & 'pagan' & 'meritocratic' (survival of the fittest)

The 'right' is groomed and encouraged to be 'racist' & 'social darwinists' (survival of the fittest) (the 'princes of Israel are wolves' Ezekiel 22:27

The left in the US (Democrats) are groomed to be part of the United Nations (which is the modern equivalent of the king of the North - hence the UN flag being oriented from the North pole.)

The right in the US (Republicans) are groomed to be part of the future Illuminati (spiritual Egypt) (which is the modern equivalent of the king of the South) (if you have seen the movie Atlas Shrugged, something like that, the ideology of libertarianism & Ayn Rand which makes a virtue of selfishness. In the movies, it is even making veiled references to 'socialism ruining the country' - meaning when the king of the North / aka the socialist UN has sway over the US presumably).

(I don't want to pass up the chance to point out that the Republican logo has 3 Satanic stars on it: File:Republicanlogo.svg - Wikimedia Commons . It used to have 3 normal stars until the early 2000's I believe, so they purposefully changed it to 3 Satanic stars. This from the political party that used to (rightly) accuse heavy metal music of being Satanic; and one of the indicators of this was the upside down Satanic star the bands would parade around. The times do change!

It's helpful to remember that the 'covenant with Death & hell' is actually about Israel's covenant with Egypt (king of the south). Israel wanted military support from Egypt so as to survive an attack by the king of the North. The king of the North is the empire with the 'Zeus' idol (based on Antiochus). The king of the South is the empire that will have the microchip implant. (see Isaiah 36:6)

The 'mark of the beast' is actually deliberately ambiguous, but it is actually talking about 2 marks of the beast: the mark of the king of the North & the mark of the king of the South (which is the microchip that pierces the hand of all who rely on Pharaoh). In the time before the end, both sides will think that the other is evil - and that is how people fall for the trap.

At the end, the UN empire will adopt the microchip & the Illuminati empire will worship the Lucifer of the UN empire. That is how it appears to me.

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While I can't say that I have any great insight into political motivations, I'm not real sure I agree with you.
Here in Australia things echo America somewhat, even if not perfectly, and so perhaps it's best if I speak to that. The growing problem we're seeing is not the conservatives and liberal playing off one another to maintain the status quo, but the heavy exacerbation of one side that all but eliminates every choice but one.
Let me explain.
Here in Australia the "hard right" was not very prominent at all. Yes, we have a large population of what you'd call conservatives; those who value tradition things above the more liberal, but not many of us would fit into what you'd call 'hard right'. Hard right being those who are dangerously close, or have even arrived, at outright racsism, intolerance etc.
Now, in the last couple years we've seen Left agendas pushed in Australia. They've been pushed in the name of tolerance and equality. Things like gay marriage, abortion, transgender education masquerading as 'anti-bullying', euthinasia, immigration...that sort of thing.
Now, while the 'hard right' would scream hateful things (as they seem to do), and the hard left met scream for scream and outrageous action for outrageous actions, leaving the attempt of most centre right and even centre left people to have some sort of sensible conversation about these matters more or less drowned out. People who were concerned that gay marriage would erode the sanctity of family and biblical marriage were shoved aside. It didn't seem to matter that they encouraged legal equality for homosexual people in the eyes of the law, no...they were just plain hateful for wanting to defend their religious beliefs. They were shouted down. Then there were those who stood up agains the 'anti-bullying' school material entering the school, which proposed to teach children as young as 5 and 6 to log onto sites that taught express sexual things. It didn't matter that this was a 'keep my kid safe from ALL sex at this age' thing, we were told we were haters and supported bullying. Shouted down again. Abortion? Oh...the shouti-est of them all. Science? Pffst. Begone foul reason and fact! Those who shriek the loudest that its "MY BODY" should be allowed to crush the brain of a child who can actually survive outside of the womb with just a bit of medical support. Crush the brain and suck it out without any pain killers....we don't do this to our worst serial killers!
Anyway, you get my point. In issue after issue, NO debate was allowed. No conversation, no concerns, no facts. Everything was shouted down by the left as hateful, intolerant and bigoted. In other words, the left view everyone who is NOT hard left, as hard right. And in doing so, they almost force all of us to land there; force us to support Politicians who are perhaps more conservative than we would be ourselves. Because in order to stand against those who would scream and hit before they would reason and debate, we must become inflexible in our standards and beliefs. Flexibility leads to...well...where we are now. Over 60 million babies dead and counting. A growing crisis in gender disphoria that has yet to fully play out as these children grow up. A generation that is so convinced that they ARE the most important person there is, and they ABSOLUTELY deserve everything, and if they don't get it, it's someone elses fault, so much so, that they're willing to pick up a gun and punish those they see responsible for their own failures. And a growing divide in politics that is becoming more and more impossible to fix.
The heartbreaking, frustrating thing is, as Christians we know that there is only one real thing that has ANY chance of fixing any of this mess, any of this heart-sickness. And that is Christ. But the Left will not tolerate Christ. He's one of the things that do not meet their requirements, apparently.

Enoch111 said:

That's because Trump does not fit into anyone's mold. He is a very smart man, otherwise he would not be where he is, when the the whole world was against him. But he has made many mistakes and sabotaged himself. And that's a shame. He could easily have been one of the greatest American presidents.

As for all the Leftist NONSENSE about Trump, people should simply ignore it. The Left has absolutely nothing to offer, so all they can do is sling mud daily. They wallow in the mire.

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Totally agree about the Left. I think the thing I like most about Trump is that he just isn't a politician. Sometimes that backfires on him, but most of the time it seems to work in his favour!

shilohsfoal said:

No its not.But i do know orthodox jews do not believe the Messiah is the king of a gentile country like you prophecy.
They actually believe the Messiah is the king of Israel.

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Your idea is totally irrelevant to Bible history and... Bible prophecy. Jesus Christ is the True King of Israel. He is also Head of The Church, and that Church is Christian, made up of both believing Israel and believing Gentiles as one body.

But what you believe is a doctrine of Judaism, because they believe only the Jews are God's Israel, and only they will be re-established back in the promised lands with the Messiah they have been taught about. Problem is though, they rejected The Messiah when He came the first time to offer them the Kingdom. So God is going to send them a pseudo-Messiah, and on him they will believe, just as Jesus told them (John 5:43).

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Its your claim that orthodox jews will,believe the king of the north is the Messiah.

Can you show me anywhere in,scripture that orthofox jews believe the Messiah is te king of a gentile country in the north or are you just making this up?
It sounds like a load of crap.

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No, it is not... my claim that ALL Jews will turn to believe on Jesus Christ.

You need to pay attention when you read instead of assuming things. Per Paul in Romans 11, God is going to remove the blindness He put upon the Jews when the fullness of the Gentiles is fulfilled. That means once their blindness is removed they still each must choose to believe on Jesus Christ.

And your Messiah over Gentile country in the north is totally irrelevant. Christ's Church is established ALL OVER THE EARTH TODAY! If you don't believe that, then you do not belong here on a Christian forum!!!