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Trump isn't the problem. The Leftists in the Democratic party is a huge part of the problem. Sounds like you've sided with the Leftists.

In ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist, he listed 45 strategic points the Soviets developed for takeover of the West. One of those points was the plan to capture one or more political parties of the United States. Today, that has come true for the Democratic party, and now they have a large hold of the Republican party also. This is why BOTH parties hate Trump, and that's a major message just right there that Trump isn't playing the game of either party!

Trump actually is... for true Americans, and that means true American patriots. So someone claiming... to be a patriot while riding the Leftist gravy train with their smear campaigns against Trump don't show much American patriotism.

So you are fine with everything I wrote about Trump, because he is not the problem - it’s those damn liberals? Come on.
 

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So you are fine with everything I wrote about Trump, because he is not the problem - it’s those damn liberals? Come on.

I don't know any man that is perfect, except my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is Who I stand by, not Trump. But it's not difficult to recognize those in the U.S. political system that want to tear down the U.S., and that just so happens to be the majority of the political parties in the U.S. Notice I didn't exclude the Republican party in my previous post. Many of those hate Trump too.

And I doubt that you even understand the idea of a 'Liberal', and where it originated. It's a moniker from the French Revolution and Bavarian Illuminati who were behind that revolution with the purpose to destroy the monarchs of Europe and Christianity (see British Mason John Robison's 1798 work, Proofs Of A Conspiracy. It's online and free). French politics followed Communism-socialism after that, while England followed conservatism, which is where that philosophy comes from.
 

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I don't know any man that is perfect, except my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is Who I stand by, not Trump. But it's not difficult to recognize those in the U.S. political system that want to tear down the U.S., and that just so happens to be the majority of the political parties in the U.S. Notice I didn't exclude the Republican party in my previous post. Many of those hate Trump too.

And I doubt that you even understand the idea of a 'Liberal', and where it originated. It's a moniker from the French Revolution and Bavarian Illuminati who were behind that revolution with the purpose to destroy the monarchs of Europe and Christianity (see British Mason John Robison's 1798 work, Proofs Of A Conspiracy. It's online and free). French politics followed Communism-socialism after that, while England followed conservatism, which is where that philosophy comes from.

I have read quite a bit of history regarding liberalism in America. Yes, the French Revolution was a liberal movement, which targeted a corrupt Monarchy. It also was inspired by the birth of America. As you know, we were never supposed to have an executive branch with more power than the other two branches of government. It was paramount in the minds of founders to dampen down the federal government so that no man would be able to acquire enough power to take over. Neoconservatives are the latest movement to strengthen the power of the executive branch - Obama complained about it when he ran for office, but exploited it when he was in office. Trump appears to be using the power given and continuing to build more power at every opportunity.

I am an old liberal, not a progressive. I believe in unions, government programs for the poor and disabled, and continuing to even the playing field for minority groups. I believe diversity and education should be our focus - I admire the education system and commitment to teachers and students found in Finland. And, frankly I like bureaucracy - I’d much rather see government officials wrangle and argue over nothing than get a hold of actual power! It’s funny, because people like to say that liberals want ‘big government’, I want politicians to feel important managing the petty, nuances of obscure and irrelevant crap, not actually having the power to pillage our environment and bullying the world. God forbid business taking over and exploiting everything and everyone for profit.
 

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I don't know any man that is perfect, except my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is Who I stand by, not Trump. But it's not difficult to recognize those in the U.S. political system that want to tear down the U.S., and that just so happens to be the majority of the political parties in the U.S. Notice I didn't exclude the Republican party in my previous post. Many of those hate Trump too.

And I doubt that you even understand the idea of a 'Liberal', and where it originated. It's a moniker from the French Revolution and Bavarian Illuminati who were behind that revolution with the purpose to destroy the monarchs of Europe and Christianity (see British Mason John Robison's 1798 work, Proofs Of A Conspiracy. It's online and free). French politics followed Communism-socialism after that, while England followed conservatism, which is where that philosophy comes from.
It's a two Party system that was created by a Company that split to make two that are one in the same but just leads the majority astray and keeps the eye off the ball of what the Company truly really is.
So what we have is the majority of people who are just only fools living a life of deceptions fighting like chooks among all as the top of the heap laugh at them being so gullible. It's the same in Australia.
The media is the biggest whore as it plays it's part in all this just so well that most people look up to it, but I despise it because i know that it's a whore run by a few fat cats and mainly anti-Christ so called Jews who are Talmud and so called Zionist and this sticks out like dogs balls in the way that they run the system. it's not really different to how Judah was run and controlled 2000 years ago and how they hated Jesus Christ and wanted him out of the way, because he is a threat to them and their con job over all the people not to mention that their pox has been working within the RCC and all of the Protestant Churches steering the Churches away from the true Christ Jesus, for another Jesus.
When the RCC took on Vatican 2 that was the death bells ringing and Pope Paul knew it as he said so and the pox took hold.
 

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I have read quite a bit of history regarding liberalism in America. Yes, the French Revolution was a liberal movement, which targeted a corrupt Monarchy. It also was inspired by the birth of America. As you know, we were never supposed to have an executive branch with more power than the other two branches of government. It was paramount in the minds of founders to dampen down the federal government so that no man would be able to acquire enough power to take over. Neoconservatives are the latest movement to strengthen the power of the executive branch - Obama complained about it when he ran for office, but exploited it when he was in office. Trump appears to be using the power given and continuing to build more power at every opportunity.

The French monarchy was no more corrupt than Czar Nicolas II and Alexandria which the Bolshevics in 1917 Russia murdered. The diary of Nicolas was released years ago, and it showed he knew the underling societies were moving against his country in secret to overthrow it, (just as they secretly did with the French monarchs in the French Revolution). It didn't happen overnight like the Communists like to preach. It happened in planned and concerted stages. Russia was a Christian nation, and the Czars were descendants of the British royal family. And the French queen didn't say stupid stuff like, 'let them eat cake' either. That was made up by Liberal-Leftist liars who fomented the French Revolution. Weishaupt's Illuminati order plan included getting control of the media, and that's who has most of today's western media in their control still, so they still push those lies.

I am an old liberal, not a progressive. I believe in unions, government programs for the poor and disabled, and continuing to even the playing field for minority groups. I believe diversity and education should be our focus - I admire the education system and commitment to teachers and students found in Finland. And, frankly I like bureaucracy - I’d much rather see government officials wrangle and argue over nothing than get a hold of actual power! It’s funny, because people like to say that liberals want ‘big government’, I want politicians to feel important managing the petty, nuances of obscure and irrelevant crap, not actually having the power to pillage our environment and bullying the world. God forbid business taking over and exploiting everything and everyone for profit.

Basically then, you like to argue political correctness, which in reality is a motive used by 'progressives', which today really is just a new name for Communists (and Karl Marx said 'socialism is communism').
 
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The French monarchy was no more corrupt than Czar Nicolas II and Alexandria which the Bolshevics in 1917 Russia murdered. The diary of Nicolas was released years ago, and it showed he knew the underling societies were moving against his country in secret to overthrow it, (just as they secretly did with the French monarchs in the French Revolution). It didn't happen overnight like the Communists like to preach. It happened in planned and concerted stages. Russia was a Christian nation, and the Czars were descendants of the British royal family. And the French queen didn't say stupid stuff like, 'let them eat cake' either. That was made up by Liberal-Leftist liars who fomented the French Revolution. Weishaupt's Illuminati order plan included getting control of the media, and that's who has most of today's western media in their control still, so they still push those lies.



Basically then, you like to argue political correctness, which in reality is a motive used by 'progressives', which today really is just a new name for Communists (and Karl Marx said 'socialism is communism').
Why would I want to argue for political correctness if I am not a progressive? Politically, I am mostly Quaker
 

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Why would I want to argue for political correctness if I am not a progressive? Politically, I am mostly Quaker

Well, let's rehash what you said you are and believe in...

You said:
"I am an old liberal, not a progressive. I believe in unions, government programs for the poor and disabled, and continuing to even the playing field for minority groups. I believe diversity and education should be our focus - I admire the education system and commitment to teachers and students found in Finland. And, frankly I like bureaucracy - I’d much rather see government officials wrangle and argue over nothing than get a hold of actual power! It’s funny, because people like to say that liberals want ‘big government’, I want politicians to feel important managing the petty, nuances of obscure and irrelevant crap, not actually having the power to pillage our environment and bullying the world. God forbid business taking over and exploiting everything and everyone for profit."

Unions - sadly, they are sometimes necessary, but not always. And it's easy for them to go into corruption, and union members often have no say with their dues being donated to the Democratic party. Not all union members are Democrats, so there is obvious bias with a lot of the unions in the U.S. today.

Government programs - there should be these, but for the needy and those who cannot do for themselves, not people who can do for themselves but won't.

Evening the playing field for minorities - this is a definite political correctness issue pushed by 'progressives'. It is in essence the idea of Socialism. Getting ahead by government subsidies is bias against the honest worker. And it is the principle of the redistribution of wealth, a Communist goal. America is the land of opportunity, for those who get off their bum and work hard and be creative.

Diversity - another political correctness issue pushed by 'progressives'. Genetic socialists love the idea of confusing one's gender, and this idea was another one the 1958 Communist goals for the takeover of the Christian west (see the 1958 book, The Naked Communist by ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen). Diversity gender training should not be an education subject in the public schools. It is a violation of the rights of children and of their parents as to what a child is taught. Some diversity ideas are against the religious beliefs of a lot of people, and 'progressives' (Communists) don't care whether they violate that or not. The Communist Manifesto includes the idea that parents don't have the right to limit their children's education.

Liking bureaucracy - another goal of World Socialism, i.e., Communism. Under Communism, the State has complete control over the rights of the people. The 'bureaucracy' of the State determines the person's rights under Communist-Socialism. This means no inalienable God-given rights exist under such a system. The U.S. Constitution is totally opposite. It only gives the Federal bureaucracy certain rights, and all other rights default to the people. This language in the Constitution is explicit. This is why progressives who are so brainwashed into their Socialist-Communist doctrines try to push their goals in American society only to have them thrown out in the U.S. courts that follow the U.S. Constitution. This is why Communists so hate the U.S. Constitution and push propaganda against it, like it's outdated and needs to be changed, etc.

Business exploiting - Liberal Leftists are often ignorant of the Leftist systems they promote, as Communist Party system are the 'big business' replacements in Communist countries. They own and control everything through their Party system; like grandma's night gown, their system covers everything, even what one is allowed to think and speak.


Your beliefs you mentioned show you'd make a good Communist. I don't think you really are; I think you're just ignorant of those ideas you support.
 

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Well, let's rehash what you said you are and believe in...

You said:
"I am an old liberal, not a progressive. I believe in unions, government programs for the poor and disabled, and continuing to even the playing field for minority groups. I believe diversity and education should be our focus - I admire the education system and commitment to teachers and students found in Finland. And, frankly I like bureaucracy - I’d much rather see government officials wrangle and argue over nothing than get a hold of actual power! It’s funny, because people like to say that liberals want ‘big government’, I want politicians to feel important managing the petty, nuances of obscure and irrelevant crap, not actually having the power to pillage our environment and bullying the world. God forbid business taking over and exploiting everything and everyone for profit."

Unions - sadly, they are sometimes necessary, but not always. And it's easy for them to go into corruption, and union members often have no say with their dues being donated to the Democratic party. Not all union members are Democrats, so there is obvious bias with a lot of the unions in the U.S. today.

Government programs - there should be these, but for the needy and those who cannot do for themselves, not people who can do for themselves but won't.

Evening the playing field for minorities - this is a definite political correctness issue pushed by 'progressives'. It is in essence the idea of Socialism. Getting ahead by government subsidies is bias against the honest worker. And it is the principle of the redistribution of wealth, a Communist goal. America is the land of opportunity, for those who get off their bum and work hard and be creative.

Diversity - another political correctness issue pushed by 'progressives'. Genetic socialists love the idea of confusing one's gender, and this idea was another one the 1958 Communist goals for the takeover of the Christian west (see the 1958 book, The Naked Communist by ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen). Diversity gender training should not be an education subject in the public schools. It is a violation of the rights of children and of their parents as to what a child is taught. Some diversity ideas are against the religious beliefs of a lot of people, and 'progressives' (Communists) don't care whether they violate that or not. The Communist Manifesto includes the idea that parents don't have the right to limit their children's education.

Liking bureaucracy - another goal of World Socialism, i.e., Communism. Under Communism, the State has complete control over the rights of the people. The 'bureaucracy' of the State determines the person's rights under Communist-Socialism. This means no inalienable God-given rights exist under such a system. The U.S. Constitution is totally opposite. It only gives the Federal bureaucracy certain rights, and all other rights default to the people. This language in the Constitution is explicit. This is why progressives who are so brainwashed into their Socialist-Communist doctrines try to push their goals in American society only to have them thrown out in the U.S. courts that follow the U.S. Constitution. This is why Communists so hate the U.S. Constitution and push propaganda against it, like it's outdated and needs to be changed, etc.

Business exploiting - Liberal Leftists are often ignorant of the Leftist systems they promote, as Communist Party system are the 'big business' replacements in Communist countries. They own and control everything through their Party system; like grandma's night gown, their system covers everything, even what one is allowed to think and speak.


Your beliefs you mentioned show you'd make a good Communist. I don't think you really are; I think you're just ignorant of those ideas you support.
Davy from the point on from you pointing out about Unions, Is that what you think or is it what you think or is it what aspen thinks.

I agree with what is said from the points from Unions on is said of.

As to the aspen point above that point, that is typical position of a Communist point of view, I have come across idiots here that are like that, they are mainly wind bags crying that someone has more than them and that's the main key point to them, as they have huge inferiority complexes and this controls over their whole life. they are totally blinded by such pathetic nonsense.
My elder brother would have kittens if he thought that I was wealthier than him, that was the last thing in the world that he wanted, he could not handle that at all and do anything to stop such, because it was embarrassing to him, my dad was the same as he did like to keep me down and did not like that I was retired at 50yo and freeked out about such as if it was a disaster, no no I want you to work to your death. I was talking to a mates dad and said that I was retired 3 years ago and he totally rejected that and had a fit as his son was with us and he does not have to work at all as he is as rich as himself and tight as they get, not to mention his dad is worth around $100 million easy.
Another mate is running himself into the ground and he need not bother because he could not spend what he has, it's all just an ego trip ! boasting to other people look at me the big man of town and I am like who gives a toss who you think you are.
but I get the shits when they treat others bad or do not regard others as they should and sure some workers and such do deserve the whip for sure because they are stupid mongrel lazy good for nothing dogs that are only a burden on them and only trying to drag them down.

That's the way it is, x amount of people who have some sort of mental problems in regard to malice of their fellow man and one has to understand and be able to detect such problems.
I can work people out pretty good, I read their body language and know them by their works and if I see malice intent I will point it our directly and call it out for what it is.
I know what Political Correctness truly is in fact and I will not tolerate it at all because it's a whore that only little narrow minded short sighted dip sticks look up to because they can't see past their own nose, such people will only be enslaved under a God less life of nothing but hell because they lack Grace. their is not one Socialist that has Grace, they are all about a mans works doctrine and that's why they idolise the poor foolish Jews, because they think that they are going to get something out of it for themselves.
 

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Davy from the point on from you pointing out about Unions, Is that what you think or is it what you think or is it what aspen thinks.

I agree with what is said from the points from Unions on is said of.

As to the aspen point above that point, that is typical position of a Communist point of view, I have come across idiots here that are like that, they are mainly wind bags crying that someone has more than them and that's the main key point to them, as they have huge inferiority complexes and this controls over their whole life. they are totally blinded by such pathetic nonsense.
My elder brother would have kittens if he thought that I was wealthier than him, that was the last thing in the world that he wanted, he could not handle that at all and do anything to stop such, because it was embarrassing to him, my dad was the same as he did like to keep me down and did not like that I was retired at 50yo and freeked out about such as if it was a disaster, no no I want you to work to your death. I was talking to a mates dad and said that I was retired 3 years ago and he totally rejected that and had a fit as his son was with us and he does not have to work at all as he is as rich as himself and tight as they get, not to mention his dad is worth around $100 million easy.
Another mate is running himself into the ground and he need not bother because he could not spend what he has, it's all just an ego trip ! boasting to other people look at me the big man of town and I am like who gives a toss who you think you are.
but I get the shits when they treat others bad or do not regard others as they should and sure some workers and such do deserve the whip for sure because they are stupid mongrel lazy good for nothing dogs that are only a burden on them and only trying to drag them down.

That's the way it is, x amount of people who have some sort of mental problems in regard to malice of their fellow man and one has to understand and be able to detect such problems.
I can work people out pretty good, I read their body language and know them by their works and if I see malice intent I will point it our directly and call it out for what it is.
I know what Political Correctness truly is in fact and I will not tolerate it at all because it's a whore that only little narrow minded short sighted dip sticks look up to because they can't see past their own nose, such people will only be enslaved under a God less life of nothing but hell because they lack Grace. their is not one Socialist that has Grace, they are all about a mans works doctrine and that's why they idolise the poor foolish Jews, because they think that they are going to get something out of it for themselves.

I did a paper in college about trade union history in the U.S. Sadly, they were badly needed. But like almost everything in this world, dangerous men sought to get control of the unions and exploit it. In the early days of U.S. unions, they contained Communists within them trying to take them over. This didn't just happen in the U.S. It happened all over the western nations.
 
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I did a paper in college about trade union history in the U.S. Sadly, they were badly needed. But like almost everything in this world, dangerous men sought to get control of the unions and exploit it. In the early days of U.S. unions, they contained Communists within them trying to take them over. This didn't just happen in the U.S. It happened all over the western nations.
Yes they try their best to dup the simple minded workers and turn them against what ever they are claiming is the enemy. the poor dups can not get out of this frame of mine because it's a mined set that is all around them of a so called brotherhood of fools that are against or mainly a malice mentality, and this created the blue and white faction hatred or discourse the key is that their is this malice at play, it's pathetic ! but it's in trenched.
It's like they are played like puppets on strings.
all are dupes and fools because at the root of all this is a mans works game. they are not under God but the works of Satan.
So all that it is, is a dog eat dog game at play, they are at war with each other, because they are fools and they have all been set up to play the game, Satan has his handy work all over it all.

It's the same with the race problems they were all created work of the puppet masters to create a game play, so as to give the puppet masters a tool so that it can play all for fools making them all dance to their own tune. when one comes to understand this fact, then you can see how such is all orchestrated and it sticks out like dogs balls nowadays, that degenerate Satanic Socialist dip sticks are pressing all the buttons and holding all the cards. such Satanist Socialist are rolling around on the ground laughing at all dancing to their tune that they are playing. that's how Satan works he plays everyone for fools and is a puppet master for fools.

I remember that Hitler said a speech and as he finished his speech, he turned and said that the masses would of believed anything that he said, so he despised the people in fact truly and he was over heard saying that. so even Hitler was shocked that the Germans swallowed his total BS.

Just because a leader of anything says something does not make it true, because such a job requires them to peddle such spin and the biggest BS artist gets that job and that's why they are in that position.