Kennites/Tares

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Christina

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OK, I did point out "set up", not the actual culmination and you are correct. The (set up of the abomination that maketh desolate) was May 15, 1948, when Israel became a nation. I pray this clear what I am trying to document.Dan.12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. I am trying to convey, the set up of Israel is a first step, if you will, to the abomination that maketh desolate.Sorry I wasted your time, I am doing my best.
Sorry Wayne my misunderstanding I stand corrected I just quickley reveiwed the post I should have read more carefully
 

Wayne Murray

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No, this is excellent.All the timings people get into with (42 or 5) months, and (time times and the dividing of time), etc, and etc. They often forget there are "TWO" beasts, a political beast and a religious beast. Well the locust army swarm will be in their season. God uses the natural He is supernatural. The polysyndeton of Rev. chapter 12 and 13 is a major study. Seeds have to germinate. Suffice to say each "And" is complete, only they overlap time wise. So they kind of are sequential time wise, but not necessarily.Please respond with your thoughts.Boy I hope that makes sense.
 

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I think one reason people forget this is many think Antichrist will not be seen or recognized when he plays the political beast, that he wont be known until he claims to be god (A of D) I not sure I think scripture supports this idea. As we are told in Luke Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you I would like to hear thoughts on this.
 

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Yes, Satan will be revealed in his time (II Thes.2:1-12). However the overspreading wings of deceit is happening now (Dan.9:27). The war in heaven is ongoing until Satan is booted out, it got really fierce in (Dan.10:13). We need our armour on and in place to fight the spiritual battle raging right now. Waiting for Satan to be revealed, I pray not, because it will be too late, until we are delivered up.Currency or a price comes to mind when we think carnally about buying or selling. We could earn the price or we could sell possessions to be able to buy. We could also negotiate a trade or swap to own the desired possession. Spiritual possessions are another matter. All we have or possess spiritually are inherent qualities. A list of your spiritual possessions might include talents, intuition, aptitude, competence, ambition, and loving kindness. Spiritual buying becomes more like acquiring and spiritual selling becomes more like promotion.There will come a time when buying and selling will be impossible (Rev.13:7). No acquiring truth by the deceived and no promotion of truth by us, until we are delivered up.
 

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We of course know Islam is a false religion but look at the comparisons of the scripture and the Koran, it teaches almost the exact opposite of the Bible, while yet acknowledging Christ and scripture. How can this not put us in mind of how Satan works. Satan wont deny Christ or the scripture just twist and change it. Would we be remiss to not consider this is the Kennites/Tares at Work building up followers around the World turning Britan itself into a mostly muslim nation. Are we missing the forest through the trees only looking to Jews for signs of the work of Kennites/Tares??? Islam rejects the doctrine of original sin[6]. Mohammad said, "Every human being is born in a state of a pure nature; but through the influence of his parents, he may become non-Moslem." [7] "Whoever goes aright, for his own soul he goes aright; and whoever goes astray, to his own detriment he goes astray. And no bearer of a burden bears another's burden..." (Koran 53:38) "...no soul earns (evil) but against itself. Nor does a bearer of a burden bear the burden of another." (Koran 6:165) "So whoever does an atom's weight of good will se it and whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it." (Koran 99:7, 8) The Bible teaches man is born into sin. By Adam's sin (Genesis 3), death spread to all mankind: Genesi 5:3 with 1:24, 25; Psalms 51:5; Romans 5:12, 14). None is born without the mark of sin upon his soul; "all have sinned." (2 Chronicles 6:36; Isaiah 53:6; Romans 3:10, 12, 23; 5:12, 14; 11:32; Ephesians 2:3; 1 John 1;10) ............ Salvation comes only through Allah. Only those who obey Allah and Mohammed his prophet can enter into Heaven: "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost ." (Koran 3:85; cp. 5:10; 25:68) Those who "believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!" (Koran 48:13) Salvation comes only through Jesus Christ: "Neither is there salvation in any other [than Jesus]: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12) Also see: John 8:24; 14:6; 10:1-2, 9; Acts 4:12; Revelation 5:1-9; 1 John 2:22, 23; Isaiah 43:11; Hosea 13:4; 1 Timothy
I was reading the Jewish Encyclopedia about Giants today and ran across this info that says that some giants could have been early Palestinians which futhers my believe that not all kenites today are calling themselves Jews today,that many hide behind other names and this could be why the word is tares in the New Testament ...until the arrival of Antichrist when they will again be claiming to be Jews David's giants were Philistines and Gittites. If the Horites were Rephaim, they are the exception, inasmuch as they maintained their identity as a distinct people. This view, however, is not generally accepted. It is contended that the Rephaim constituted the earliest population of Palestine, later subjugated and absorbed by the Canaanites, Philistines, and Hebrews. In the case of the Emim and the Zamzummim it is expressly stated (Deut. ii. 10, 11, 20, 21) that they were replaced by the Moabites and Ammonites, while the Avim were annihilated by the Philistines (Deut. ii. 23). The Amorites (among the Canaanites; Gen. x. 16) seem to have absorbed a large portion of the aboriginal population. In Amos ii. 9 their description recalls that of these autochthons, whose racial affinity, however, is not clear. It has been suggested that they may have been the first invaders of Hamitic origin, to which the later immigrants, viz., the Amorites and Canaanites, also belonged (Riehm, "Wörterbuch," ii. 1302b; but see Patten, "Early History of Syria," pp. 36, 37). Whatever basis of fact may underlie the tradition of the existence of this prehistoric population, it is certainly overlaid with mythical elements. This gives weight to the theory that these Biblical references are of the same historical value as the many non-Hebrew accounts of giants (see Bohlen, "Genesis," p. 82; Winer, "B. R." ii. s.v. "Riesen") preceding the men of ordinary stature, or living among them. Granted that the names "Rephaim," "Emim," "Zamzummim" are Hebrew folk-etymological adaptations of non-Hebrew words (Patten, l.c.), this very fact would prove that in the consciousness of the Hebrew writers the historical authenticity of these aboriginal races had been entirely crowded out by mythological and legendary conceits, though there is no occasion for holding with Eduard Meyer ("Zeit. für Alttesta-mentliche Wissenschaft," i. 139) that the existence of the Anakim and the Rephaim as a people is a free development of the popular tradition that individual giants had their home in Palestine.http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...search=Nephilim
 

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You are correct but the spiritual war continues (ongoing) and will not end until Christ has put His enemies under foot and delivered to God the Kingdom.1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. I guess you could say there are several wars overlapping.