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The Mormon Church did more than any other religious establishment to fight the sodomites effort to further trash marriage in California in regards to Prop 8 that recently passed. In return, the sodomites have directed a lot of their hate toward the Mormons. Shame on the Christian churches that stood on the sidelines, or even sided with the Devil. God Bless the Churches that actively supported traditional marriage and our freedom from having the government impose a twisted definition of marriage onto Californians.
 

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Other christian groups contributed to the yes on prop 8 campaign. The Mormons are getting harassed by the sodomites because they are most likely a easier target and most likely to cave into sodomite demands. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pr...0,3827549.story
"I am appalled at the level of Mormon-bashing that went on during the Proposition 8 campaign and continues to this day," he said. "If this activity were directed against any other church, if someone put up a website that targeted Jews or Catholics in a similar fashion for the mere act of participating in a political campaign, it would be widely and rightfully condemned."Members and leaders of the Catholic Church and other Christian churches were also heavily involved in the campaign to pass Proposition 8. The Knights of Columbus, which is tied to the Catholic Church, gave $1 million, and several evangelical groups gave millions more. But they have not come under the same kind of attack.Leaders of the No-on-8 campaign said they did not believe they were engaged in Mormon-bashing. "This is not about religion," said Jacobs. "This is about a church that put itself in the middle of politics."
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Lorri L. Jean, chief executive of the Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center, which organized the rally outside the temple, announced the launch of a new website, invalidateprop8.org, which will raise money to fight for same-sex marriage rights in California.For every $5 donated, Jean said, a postcard will be sent to the president of the Mormon church condemning "the reprehensible role the Church of Latter-day Saints leadership played in denying all Californians equal rights under the law.""It is a travesty that the Mormon Church bought this election and used a campaign of lies and deception to manipulate voters in the great state of California," she said.David Loder, 40, a business manager from Corona and a member of the Mormon church, heard about the protest on the radio. He said he was saddened by the anger directed against the church.Loder said he had not given money to the Yes-on-8 campaign because finances are tight raising five daughters, but he did put a sign in his frontyard. It was vandalized, he said.
 

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Come on guys. Referring to homosexuals as Sodomites is pretty much the same as referring to black people as nig*ers. It ain't nice.Can't we make a good point without the derogatory terms, please?
 

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Follower you can repost your reply but please refrain from using the same language
 

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I forgot, this is an English-only forum. Sodomite is a legitimate word. It means someone who engages in sodomy. A homosexual is not someone who necessarily engages in sodomy. A homosexual might be just someone struggling with a feeling. The issue here is not of homosexuality but about morally legitimizing sodomistic behavior.
 

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I forgot, this is an English-only forum. Sodomite is a legitimate word. It means someone who engages in sodomy. A homosexual is not someone who necessarily engages in sodomy. A homosexual might be just someone struggling with a feeling. The issue here is not of homosexuality but about morally legitimizing sodomistic behavior.
I'm fully aware of the fact that it is a legitimate word.But we both know that it is inflammatory language, just like the word fagot (which can be a bundle of sticks). And its use tends to become the focus of a discussion where it is used.Plus, it seems that Christians should be able to converse without using unnecessarily inflammatory language. That's all.
 

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I'm fully aware of the fact that it is a legitimate word.But we both know that it is inflammatory language, just like the word fagot (which can be a bundle of sticks).
Actually it is not and it is "******" not "fagot". ****** applies to those who engage in sodomy and is a variation of the word fagot does not apply to those who engage in sodomy.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sodomite
5 dictionary results for: SodomiteDictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share ThisSod⋅om⋅ite   /ˈsɒdəˌmaɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sod-uh-mahyt] Show IPA Pronunciation–noun1. an inhabitant of Sodom.2. (lowercase) a person who engages in sodomy.Origin:1250–1300; ME < MF < LL Sodomīta < Gk Sodomtēs. See Sodom, -ite 1Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.Cite This SourceAmerican Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share Thissod·om·ite (sŏd'ə-mīt') Pronunciation Key n. One who engages in sodomy.The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.Cite This SourceWordNet - Cite This Source - Share Thissodomitenounsomeone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male who engages in anal copulation with another male) WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.Cite This SourceMerriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share ThisMain Entry: sod·om·itePronunciation: -"mItFunction: noun: one who practices sodomyMerriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.Cite This SourceWebster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share ThisSodomiteSod"om*ite, n. 1. An inhabitant of Sodom.2. One guilty of sodomy.
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8 dictionary results for: ******Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag⋅got1   /ˈfægət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fag-uht] Show IPA Pronunciation–noun British.fagot.Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.Cite This SourceDictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag⋅got2   /ˈfægət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fag-uht] Show IPA Pronunciation–nounSlang: Disparaging and Offensive. a male homosexual.Origin:1910–15, Americanism; cf. ****** a contemptuous term for a woman (from ca. 1590), perh. the same word as fagotDictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.Cite This SourceAmerican Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag·got 1 (fāg'ət) Pronunciation Key n. & v.Variant of fagot.The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.Cite This SourceAmerican Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag·got 2 (fāg'ət) Pronunciation Key n. Offensive SlangUsed as a disparaging term for a homosexual man.[Perhaps from ******, variant of fagot, bundle, lump, old woman.]The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.Cite This SourceAmerican Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag·ot also fag·got (fāg'ət) Pronunciation Key n. 1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together. 2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.tr.v. fag·ot·ed also fag·got·ed, fag·ot·ing also fag·got·ing, fag·ots also fag·gots 1. To bind into a fagot; bundle. 2. To decorate with fagoting.[Middle English, from Old French, from Old Provençal, possibly from Vulgar Latin *facus, from Greek phakelos, bundle.]The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.Cite This SourceOnline Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This****** (1)1279, "bundle of twigs bound up," from O.Fr. fagot "bundle of sticks," from It. faggotto, dim. of V.L. *facus, from L. fascis "bundle of wood" (see fasces). Esp. used for burning heretics (a sense attested from 1555), so that phrase fire and ****** was used to mean "punishment of a heretic." Heretics who recanted were required to wear an embroidered figure of a ****** on their sleeve, as an emblem and reminder of what they deserved.Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas HarperCite This SourceOnline Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This****** (2)"male homosexual," 1914, Amer.Eng. slang (shortened form fag is from 1921), probably from earlier contemptuous term for "woman" (1591), especially an old and unpleasant one, in reference to ****** (1) "bundle of sticks," as something awkward that has to be carried (cf. baggage). It was used in this sense in 20c. by D.H. Lawrence and James Joyce, among others. It may also be reinforced by Yiddish faygele "homosexual," lit. "little bird." It also may have roots in Brit. public school slang fag "a junior who does certain duties for a senior" (1785), with suggestions of "catamite," from fag (v.). This was also used as a verb. "He [the prefect] used to fag me to blow the chapel organ for him." ["Boy's Own Paper," 1889]Other obsolete senses of ****** were "man hired into military service simply to fill out the ranks at muster" (1700) and "vote manufactured for party purposes" (1817). The oft-heard statement that male homosexuals were called faggots in reference to their being burned at the stake is an etymological urban legend. Burning was sometimes a punishment meted out to homosexuals in Christian Europe (on the suggestion of the Biblical fate of Sodom and Gomorah), but in England, where parliament had made homosexuality a capital offense in 1533, hanging was the method prescribed. Any use of ****** in connection with public executions had long become an English historical obscurity by the time the word began to be used for "male homosexual" in 20th century American slang, whereas the contemptuous slang word for "woman" (and the other possible sources or influences listed here) was in active use.Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas HarperCite This SourceWordNet - Cite This Source - Share This******noun1. offensive term for an openly homosexual man 2. a bundle of sticks and branches bound together [syn: fagot] verb1. ornament or join (fabric) by ****** stitch; "He fagotted the blouse for his wife" 2. fasten together rods of iron in order to heat or weld them 3. bind or tie up in or as if in a ******; "****** up the sticks"
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5 dictionary results for: fagotDictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag⋅ot   /ˈfægət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fag-uht] Show IPA Pronunciation–noun1. a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel, a fascine, a torch, etc.2. a bundle; bunch.3. a bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded, hammered, or rolled together at high temperature.4. bouquet garni.–verb (used with object)5. to bind or make into a fagot.6. to ornament with fagoting.Also, British, ******.Origin:1250–1300; ME < AF, OF; of obscure orig.Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.Cite This SourceAmerican Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share Thisfag·ot also fag·got (fāg'ət) Pronunciation Key n. 1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together. 2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.tr.v. fag·ot·ed also fag·got·ed, fag·ot·ing also fag·got·ing, fag·ots also fag·gots 1. To bind into a fagot; bundle. 2. To decorate with fagoting.[Middle English, from Old French, from Old Provençal, possibly from Vulgar Latin *facus, from Greek phakelos, bundle.]The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.Cite This SourceWordNet - Cite This Source - Share Thisfagotnoun1. offensive term for an openly homosexual man 2. a bundle of sticks and branches bound together verb1. ornament or join (fabric) by ****** stitch; "He fagotted the blouse for his wife" [syn: ******] 2. fasten together rods of iron in order to heat or weld them [syn: ******] 3. bind or tie up in or as if in a ******; "****** up the sticks" [syn: ******] WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.Cite This SourceWebster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share ThisFagotFag"otn. [F., prob. aug. of L. fax, facis, torch, perh. orig., a bundle of sticks; cf. Gr. ??????? bundle, fagot. Cf. Fagotto.]1. A bundle of sticks, twigs, or small branches of trees, used for fuel, for raising batteries, filling ditches, or other purposes in fortification; a fascine. --Shak.2. A bundle of pieces of wrought iron to be worked over into bars or other shapes by rolling or hammering at a welding heat; a pile.3. (Mus.) A bassoon. See Fagotto.4. A person hired to take the place of another at the muster of a company. [Eng.] --Addison.5. An old shriveled woman. [Slang, Eng.]Fagot iron, iron, in bars or masses, manufactured from fagots.Fagot vote, the vote of a person who has been constituted a voter by being made a landholder, for party purposes. [Political cant, Eng.]Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.Cite This SourceWebster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share ThisFagotFag"otv. t. [imp. & p. p. Fagoted; p. pr. & vb. n. Fagoting.] To make a fagot of; to bind together in a fagot or bundle; also, to collect promiscuously. --Dryden.

And its use tends to become the focus of a discussion where it is used.
The one who first brought up its usage was you.
Plus, it seems that Christians should be able to converse without using unnecessarily inflammatory language. That's all.
Actually the word sodomite is not defined as a inflammatory word nor is it defined as a disparaging or offensive term. The word ****** on the other hand is defined as a disparaging or offensive term for homosexual man. Christians should not be try to be apologist for sin nor should Christians try to be pc(politically correct).
 
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