How do you address opposing Scripture verses?

Heart2Soul said:

What are you speaking about?

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God says in Romans, that anything we judge others Of We are guilty ourselves. How can this be reconciled?

Heart2Soul said:

Matthew 18:15-17
Jesus tells us if our brother or sister offends us to privately address it and if they refuse to acknowledge their actions then go get 1 or 2 others so that everything you say is confirmed by 2 or 3 witnesses.
If they still refuse...tell it to the church and if they refuse the church's decision then consider them treat them as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.

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We’re not talking about the assembly of God

Waiting on him said:

We’re not talking about the assembly of God

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She has been trapped in This for a very long time. I want to see her free, I believe in order for this to happen, she has to see her Own offense.

Willie T said:

Are you real sure that is how it is worded? The addition of the verse/s you are referring to would be helpful.

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At the moment I’m traveling on the interstate. Will get back later

Soverign Grace said:

I'm unsure what you mean? I know we are given an example of Christ - but there is a dichotomy there also: Christ did nothing when the soldiers came to arrest him and Peter cut off the guards ear - and Christ healed it. But in another Scripture we're shown Christ turning over the tables of the money changers and driving them out of God's House.

I tried projecting what would be the best outcome - if the lying individuals turned to God if I turned the other cheek. Ultimately, that benefits all of us since there are more ethical, moral people populating the world. But then I thought that if I let it go then they'll be shown that lying and cheating works and they'll continue to do it. Also I began thinking of how frugal I am and how I've had to work hard for anything I've gotten - so does it glorify God if I turn the other cheek and let that lying lawyer go blow the $800 he stole from me on his pleasures - money he didn't earn?

Some of these decisions get very tricky and when there are verses that seem to contradict one another it's hard to judge what the best course of action is.

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I don’t know. You ask a good question. As children of God we are to set up a standard (IMO). What you said of Him driving the money changers out of the temple...was not this His saying this is not to be so in the temple of God. Yet, as you also mentioned His willingness to go when they came in the garden for Him. All your confusion over the right approach I think is fair and reasonable and (IMO) to be commended that you care what God says. Only advice I can give is to surrender it to Him who judges righteously. Even if you take no action...if it is God who wants a justice done then surely He can bring that justice about in many ways. Consider Paul who when a man had done wrong within the body ...Paul said he had already judged and they were told to put him without for Satan in hope the flesh could be destroy but a life saved. Why didn’t Paul just take justice...instead submitted destruction to satan. What does justice even look like...Saul gave the orders for Stephens stoning yet then for the sake of mercy; Paul is given the message of the gospel of grace to the gentiles. God’s ways surely are higher than our own. If you don’t hear a clear path...ask God to.

Soverign Grace said:

How do you account for the several verses I gave then? How can I make a decision that I know is right if Scripture at one point says "Have nothing to do with the evil deeds of darkness but even expose them" and elsewhere says "Turn the other cheek"? What decision would you personally have made, trying to harmonize seemingly opposing Scripture? I just haven't found it easy to do.

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Those two Scriptures are unrelated. The first one tells Christians to have no fellowship with evildoers or participation in any evil deeds, and to even expose them if necessary. Turning the other cheek is a metaphor for refusing to retaliate or be vengeful when someone does you great harm.

As to those Scriptures about the wealth of sinners and the righteous, there are times when the righteous are prevented from prospering and other times when the righteous do prosper. As to the wealth of sinners, it would appear that the unrighteous do prosper much more than the righteous, but sometimes their wealth goes towards righteous deeds by righteous people.

Heart2Soul said:

I still have no problem with reporting a licensed professional for malpractice.

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I think you should, not to get personal revenge, but to prevent possible harm to other people.

Turning the other cheek means when it's only you. You can pass that off and go about your business; but if someone was slapping someone else, maybe you should get involved because your motive is love.

Waiting on him said:

But He giveth power to be called the sons of God

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I think it's clear with Ezekiel that he was given the ability to "move like the wind" the way Jesus talked about people who are born of the Spirit. It's less clear with Daniel. We also see John being caught up to Heaven in Revelation. He's not called "son of man" directly, but he does "see" the Son of Man. "We shall be like him for we shall see him as he is" comes to mind.

Who can ascend to Heaven? Only he that came down. The Son of Man is in Heaven; and he can come down even while remaining in Heaven -- he can be in two places at once. He can also give you a ride in a "chariot" -- one of the chariots of God. You can't as a "mortal man" go up to Heaven on your own; but if God sends you one of His chariots, you can ride that.

Notice that both Ezekiel and John wrote about the cherubim, and both could move like the wind. Both saw the Son of Man.

Heart2Soul said:

I am a Christian, but I am not a doormat for others to walk all over. If someone robs me I am going to call the cops, if a doctor causes permanent damage from malpractice I am going to seek compensation for damages, if a person attacks another person I am going to help defend them. And in this situation a lawyer has lied for personal gain so I would not allow them to get away with it.

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Eye for an eye?

VictoryinJesus said:

I don’t know. You ask a good question. As children of God we are to set up a standard (IMO). What you said of Him driving the money changers out of the temple...was not this His saying this is not to be so in the temple of God. Yet, as you also mentioned His willingness to go when they came in the garden for Him. All your confusion over the right approach I think is fair and reasonable and (IMO) to be commended that you care what God says. Only advice I can give is to surrender it to Him who judges righteously. Even if you take no action...if it is God who wants a justice done then surely He can bring that justice about in many ways. Consider Paul who when a man had done wrong within the body ...Paul said he had already judged and they were told to put him without for Satan in hope the flesh could be destroy but a life saved. Why didn’t Paul just take justice...instead submitted destruction to satan. What does justice even look like...Saul gave the orders for Stephens stoning yet then for the sake of mercy; Paul is given the message of the gospel of grace to the gentiles. God’s ways surely are higher than our own. If you don’t hear a clear path...ask God to.

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Jesus says I’ll repay. Vengeance is His.

Willie T said:

Are you real sure that is how it is worded? The addition of the verse/s you are referring to would be helpful.

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Romans 2:1-13 KJV
[1] Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? [4] Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? [5] But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; [6] Who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: [8] But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; [10] But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: [11] For there is no respect of persons with God. [12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; [13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.


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Waiting on him said:

Eye for an eye?

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That verse poses something of a problem, doesn't it? Was Jesus contradicting Moses? I don't think so, not if we remember that all the Law is about Love, if interpreted correctly. People would go around in Jesus' day saying that to justify themselves; but the real meaning is rather nice.

It means that judges in court cases could not penalize people more severely than the crime. If you put out someone's eye, they could not punish you as if you had put out both. They would award you monetary damages for the one eye. It didn't mean the other person's eye had to be put out; but over time, it became a common saying and Jesus was making fun of it: "You have heard it said. . . ." Judges could also be less severe if mercy was warranted; but they could be more severe than an eye for an eye. That was in contrast to some of the pagans' law codes which sometimes were extremely harsh.

I’m not one to usually give personal testimony, but for what it’s worth; I’d been searching for the Lord for about a year or two, and things material things in my life were starting to take a back seat while I began to try and learn to repair relationships in my life.

I’d gone to see my mother and father one afternoon, and was witnessing to them the great mercies I’d seen in Christ.

My earthly father(totally devoid of the knowledge of Christ) stops me and says, your going to lose everything you’ve worked for your whole life following this nonsense.

I responded so be it, I don’t need more things, and I’m not interested in anything you possess. Only interested in a loving relationship with you.... His response was you should have been born a nigger!

I just dropped my head and left, very offended.

That following Wednesday I went to church, and the topic of the sermon was take offense in nothing. For weeks I searched the scriptures. God how can I relate to a loving father when it’s something I’ve never known?
Weeks later Answered,

Washed white as snow. You see I was a great offense (nigger). Book of revelation of all places?
Revelation 1:5 KJV
[5] And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

I was born that way, and so was my earthly father. What a merciful God, Will he not repay my father as He repayed me?
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